Posted on 06/04/2009 7:59:46 AM PDT by james.richardson
A review of Minnesota’s statewide database of registered voters revealed at least 2,812 deceased individuals voted in last November’s general election, according to a new report by the “traditional values” advocacy group Minnesota Majority.
After obtaining the list of voters who participated in November’s election, the group hired an independent firm who specializes in “death suppression” for direct mailing lists to review the data. The process, which involved matching names and addresses to state death records, bore troubling results.
According to Minnesota statute 201.13, the commissioner of health is to report monthly the name, address, date of birth, and county of residence of voting-age deceased residents to the secretary of state.
Presumably the commissioner of health would not issue incomplete reports (read: no motive), the blame then falls elsewhere – namely, at the feet of Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, whose partisan leanings and curious alliance with vote fraud-magnet ACORN are becoming more salient by the day.
Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann argues the discrepancies unearthed by the group are merely the result of election workers updating the voter database with faulty information and were not instance of voter fraud.
“I would venture—put my reputation on—the fact that there are very few, if any, people impersonating dead people. You’re going to have human error,” he admitted.
But Jeff Davis, president of Minnesota Majority, believes the situation to be far less benign – and legal – than the Ritchie’s staff is willing to admit.
“The first problem with their explanation is that there should not even be deceased individuals on the voter rolls. The second problem with the secretary of state’s explanation is that it basically acknowledges the lack of controls in the way in which voter history updates are being captured and recorded,” he said. Adding, “If the proper controls had been in place, this situation would not have occurred.”
Whether the peculiar case of 2,800+ deceased individuals casting ballots is a matter of fraud, human error, or resurrection is of little importance at the moment.
According to current recount totals, Democrat Al Franken leads Republican Norm Coleman by a mere 312 votes. If the Minnesota Supreme Court rules in favor of Coleman later this month, which most analysts agree won’t be the case, an additional 4,000 votes will be added to the mix.
When you’re down by such a slim margin, like Team Coleman knows all too well, every vote counts. When you live in a democracy, the very hallmark of which is fair and free elections, every vote should count. But when you live in Minnesota, where the chief election officer is a hyper-partisan louse, “every” vote counts, even after you’re dead!
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Cross-posted at Skepticians.com.
Has anyone ever seen Jim Gelbmann in the same room as Baghdad Bob?
If 2800+ dead people, more than 6 times the margin of difference, are shown to have voted, that is not unimpeachable proof of a comprimised election? What the hell am I missing here?
I read at the time that the point of all the registrations is to make sure there are enough ballots printed up. Then, after the polls close, the crooked precincts get instructions as to how many votes are “needed” and they produce them.
Could they do any DNA like test on the ballots to see if an identical result can be found? Are all the dead voters from a certain area, buried in specific cemetaries etc....Time for scientist and sleuths to get involved.
You are from Pennsylvania, right? They may be using your mother’s vote for the Democrats there. Better see if you can get your mother’s name removed from the voting rolls there.
Have them settle it like gentlemen....pistols at dawn.
“According to current recount totals, Democrat Al Franken leads Republican Norm Coleman by a mere 312 votes. If the Minnesota Supreme Court rules in favor of Coleman later this month, which most analysts agree won’t be the case, an additional 4,000 votes will be added to the mix”
I don’t understand this statement.
I wouldn’t put about anything passed the Democrat party these days. That ACORN still as a functioning entity by this point, makes it perfectly clear that fraud and misuse of government funds is no longer a problem.
I just can’t understand how we got here.
I don't understand it either, mmanager. StarFan, as you said in another post... pinch me so I can wake up from this nightmare! :-(
Indiana has been successful with their laws...How are Georgia’s different?
that was a funny one! LOL I use to love watching those guys..
I hope and pray that someone will actually do something about voter fraud.
There should be the smell of some kind of roasted nuts in the air there.
There’s no claim that they voted, just that they were listed on the voter rolls.
If we treated voter fraud as the treason it is, and prosectuted it accordingly, we’d have less of it.
ping
The extra 4000 some votes are absentee ballots that were not counted in the original count or the recount. These votes were from Republican precincts that followed the rules, e.g., witness wasn’t a registered voter, no signature or something like that. However, in the democratic precincts, absentee ballots that had (no signature, no witness etc,) were counted. All Norm is saying is that if you count ballots in some precincts you should count them in all precincts.
How simple is that?
“You want to win elections. Eliminate voter fraud state by state.
Much more productive than sitting here on FR bitching about the end of the Republic.”
Personally, I’m too fat and lazy. I would rather sit on my couch and post stuff on FR. It is way too much work to do what you suggest.
Here is a small article I found on the subject. Plenty more on the subject.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2263806/posts
The 4 billion just given to Acorn by O will go a long way to challenging other states.
DONE!
Exactly. Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann's excuse is just flat out crooked-politician double-talk. It makes no sense to say that the discrepancies "are merely the result of election workers updating the voter database with faulty information and were not instance of voter fraud"--not when the "discrepancies" at issue are votes actually cast by dead people. Either Dep. Sec. of State Gelbmann is complicit with this voter fraud, or he's dumber than a plate of lutefisk. Possibly both.
My mistake. The claim is that some of them actually voted.
Frankenvoters!
“I’ll vote for Al Franken over my dead body.”
Pretty simple; unless you are a cheat, liar, thug.
I am sure you can add to that list.
Probably
See post 69
ITS OFFICIAL IN MINNESOTA!:
110% of THE DEAD VOTERS IN MINNESOTA VOTED FOR BASS AL FRANKEN!!
100% OF THE MILITARY VOTERS IN MINNESOTA WERE DISQUALIFIED
BY AL HOLE FRANKEN’S MINIONS! THE MINNESOTA MILITARY OUGHTS DEMONSTRATE THEIR FEELINGS TO FRANKEN DIRECTLY!
MINNESOTA’S ELECTION HAS BEEN AN ARROGANT, MASSIVE FRAUD PERPETRATED BY THE DEMORATS!!!
They need to add that to the Freeper dictionary.
Just wait until Villaragosa runs for Governor. You aint seen nothing yet.
Well, I guess Al Franken isn’t the Senator from Minnesota, then. Or am I being too logical?
Hey, remember when the Democrats said that every spoiled vote in Florida had to be counted? They won’t say anything about this obvious mess.
thanks, bfl
Nope. The 2,812 are the ones who voted. The dead registered is higher than that.
I’d bet that 90+% of dead people are pro-Franken.
AND THEY ARE ALL DEMORATS AT THIS TIME!! IF thr Republicans tried to Vote a Felon or a dead Person, The RATS WOULD SCREAM BLOODY MURDER!! ACORN IS A HORRIBLE TRAVESTY OF FRAUD, EXTORTION, BLACKMAIL, DRUG DEALING, AND MOST PROBABLY MURDER!!
Did all eleven of his supporters tell you that or just a majority of six?
I did not know that...do you have a link?
That’s an extremely tall order, and I don’t think it’s a new legal precedent that anyone on the Left or the Right wants to set.
And here you have the gist of why no court in the land will touch the Opossum "birth certificate" issue.
It's impossible to correlate a name with who they voted for, unless it's a union election.
We're not there yet, but the Dems would love to have open ballot for us all.
Chriisy Prissy Matthews and Mayor Street were bragging the night before the November 4th, 2004 Election on National T.V.(PMSNBC!) how Mayor STREET had $ 3-4 MILLION DOLLARS of “STREET MONEY” to GET OUT THE VOTE FOR KERRY! Mayor Street assured Matthews he would give KERRY a 400,000 VOTE PLUS VICTORY in Philadelphia NO MATTER HOW MUCH “STREET MONEY” was needed to accomplish the Objective. STREET DID IT! and KERRY only won Pennsylvania by 100,000 Votes! There are only 800,000 Alleged Legal Voters in PHILLY ,IF THAT! THANK ACORN AND AXELROD WITH STREET FOR THE KERRY FRAUDULENT VICTORY!:-(
Coleman’s case before the court is that 4000 challenged votes should be counted.
And if you cut off a guys’s legs to get him to fit into the coffin, ACORN could have him vote twice!
Thanks for the ping!
Yeah. I miss that show.
Thanks
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