The Declaration of Independence (taxes, gov't seizures, religion, guns, property)

US Constitution Net ^ | 4 Jul 1776 | Jefferson & Friends

[xzins]

These guys had some good ideas on the subject

[Jeff Head]

God bless them for their wisdom. That wisdon and inspiration has guided us, prospered us, and protected our liberty for these many years.

Now quislings are destroying it before our very eyes.

Here's a MODERN DECLARATION

[knarf]

"These guys had some good ideas on the subject"

And as we search our own souls we discover the same sentiments beat strongly within us now in these times dangerous to our Republic.

[rocksblues]

BTTT

[Joe 6-pack]

"These guys had some good ideas on the subject"

It ws not so much the ideas (many of which had been around in some form or another since Greece and Rome), but rather the conviction and balls to put those ideas into action.

[xzins]

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security

The issue at hand.

Pick a topic: abortion, forced homosexualization, desecration of marriage, gun seizure, eminent domain seizure, disenfranchisement, power elite replacing monarch, abusive, destructive taxation without representation, taxation to deny permanent ownership of property, ....

It makes one think what these men would have tolerated in this day.

[kalee]

bttt

[Jacquerie]

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,

Those rights were the previously mentioned unalienable rights and others not specified.

The Founders meant that the only legitimate powers of government involve protection of our God given, unalienable, Natural Law rights.

The Constitution itself codified this belief on the nature of legitimate government power.

Think about it. The powers granted by the States to the new federal government were consistent with Natural Law, the Law of our Creator.

How far we have fallen since our rejection of Natural Law and the embrace of Marx.

[Jeff Head]

If those men, who wrote the Declaration of Independence in that day, and then defended it with their very lives...many of them losing their lives...if those same men were alive today, they would either all be dead, or they would have effected change, at the point of the sword if necessary, away from the anti-republican, anti-American policies of this day.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

IT'S TIME FOR A RETURN TO THE OLD SCHOOL

[Noumenon]

It ws not so much the ideas (many of which had been around in some form or another since Greece and Rome), but rather the conviction and balls to put those ideas into action.

I expect we're goign to find out who's got what pretty soon, now.

That distant thunder some of us can hear rolling around in far-off hils is getting closer. It's war. War is coming. Here. Soon.

[wagglebee]

I think one of the issues is that the Signers of the Declaration of Independence were elected by their states. To do this correctly, there would need to be some sort of cohesive group.

The Constitution DOES allow for future Constitutional Conventions to be called by two-thirds of the states whether the federal government likes it or not.

[xzins]

What about when even representation has been usurped by a power elite with an undreamed of form of media, by rules tha ensure election in districts by the same or similar persons, by rules that make it impossible for others to be on ballots, etc?

Is that not usurpation that makes a system that is impossible to respond to the citizens?

[wagglebee]

That certainly is a problem, I’m just not sure what the legal solution is.

[Joe 6-pack]

"That distant thunder some of us can hear rolling around in far-off hils is getting closer. It's war."

Either that or the burrito I had for lunch....;-)

[xzins]

what would a not-so-legal solution be?

[wagglebee]

Civil war.

[knarf]

"It makes one think what these men would have tolerated in this day."

More ... what would they DO about it?

[Noumenon]

That’s more of a southern rumble, isn’t it?

[dljordan]

“but rather the conviction and balls to put those ideas into action.”

It’s the balls that’ll do it every time.