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Commandant deciding fate of Chessani case
NC Times ^ | June 1, 2009 | Mark Walker

Posted on 06/01/2009 5:25:09 PM PDT by jazusamo

U.S. Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway is deciding what to do with the dereliction of duty case against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, the Camp Pendleton officer accused of failing to order a full-scale investigation into the slayings of two dozen Iraqi civilians in the city of Haditha in 2005.

Conway got the case in late May, after the Marine Corps gave up its appeal of a military judge's ruling that unlawful command influence illegally tainted the case against Chessani.

The Marine Corps appealed that ruling on two occasions and was considering a third appeal before deciding to let Conway determine the next move in the Chessani saga.

"He (Conway) will consider the matter carefully," Maj. David Nevers at the Marine Corps' Pentagon headquarters said, adding there no was firm date for when Conway would announce his decision.

Conway's options include dropping the case entirely or appointing a new convening authority to consider whether a new investigation should be ordered. He also can pursue a non-criminal administrative action against Chessani, who commanded the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, at Haditha when the civilians were slain by Marines after a roadside bombing.

Chessani, 43, was charged with dereliction of duty in December 2006 after Marine prosecutors said he negligently failed to order a full-scale investigation into the killings. Chessani maintains he kept his superiors informed of the killings and was never directed to launch such a probe.

One of Chessani's attorneys, Brian Rooney, said the Colorado native is hoping the commandant ends the prosecution without any further action.

(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chessani; haditha; usmc

1 posted on 06/01/2009 5:25:10 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing; Just A Nobody; freema; Lancey Howard

Lt. Col. Chessani Ping!


2 posted on 06/01/2009 5:26:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
U.S. Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Conway is deciding what to do with the dereliction of duty case against Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani.

Easy call.

Issue a formal apology to Col, Chessani and give him a promotion as a reward for not letting Political Correctness and political pressure influence his judgement.

He is paid to lead men, not to pander to leftists and to follow leftist fads.

3 posted on 06/01/2009 5:31:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (With Obama in charge things are going to get worse before they get a lot worse.)
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To: Iron Munro

You’re correct but sadly there’s been nothing easy about the Haditha Marine cases.

Hopefully Gen. Conway will dismiss all charges.


4 posted on 06/01/2009 5:35:11 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
NCT: Gary Solis, a military law expert who has closely followed the Chessani and other Haditha prosecutions, said he thinks the commandant should opt for dropping the case.

Hopefully, he'll make that decision not before long.
5 posted on 06/01/2009 5:45:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Gene Eric
Hopefully, he'll make that decision not before long.

Absolutely, and pleasantly surprised to see Gary Solis calling for that.

6 posted on 06/01/2009 5:49:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
"Hopefully Gen. Conway will dismiss all charges."

That would be the best route. However, now that the CIC has changed, it depends on the material of which the Gen.'s balls are made. I think this Admn. will want someone to pay a PC tribute. The only sacrificial lamb left available is Chessani.

I agree with another poster that he should get an apology and a promotion. Gen. Conway should order that and then order an investigation of the people stirring up Haditha in the first place. A companion investigation of John Murtha's complicitness in fanning the flames against the Marines should be ordered by the ethics commission and Murtha should be stripped of all pretense of having ever been a Marine, or anything else except a pandering, lying, egotistical fradulent, graft taking scumball.

If I had time and space, I would make my true feelings known.

vaudine

7 posted on 06/01/2009 5:50:01 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: jazusamo

I think that Murtha and others have been putting pressure on the Marine commanders, possibly telling them not to let the Haditha Marines off on pain of losing some of their procurement needs.

Possibly Murtha’s current political problems may keep him too busy to interfere again at this point. At least I hope so. It’s past time to end this political witch hunt.


8 posted on 06/01/2009 5:51:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...
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HADITHA MARINE PING for LT.COL. CHESSANI!

9 posted on 06/01/2009 5:54:34 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: vaudine; Cicero

BUMP to you both!


10 posted on 06/01/2009 5:57:01 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Actually, I’d like to see the Commandant reopen the investigation, but in a different direction.

There is a desperate need to investigate those who pushed so hard and so aggressively at turning a bullsh**, weak and obvious enemy propaganda ploy into this abomination of a criminal prosecution.

Someone should hang and I don’t mean figuratively.


11 posted on 06/01/2009 6:30:12 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Agree, I can think of many without looking them up. Time magazine, Tim McGirk, John Murtha, various NCIS agents, assorted JAG officers and tons of the enemedia, there’s got to be many more.


12 posted on 06/01/2009 6:49:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; Semper Fi Mom
Just two more, and it can't come soon enough...



13 posted on 06/01/2009 6:55:27 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Cicero; jazusamo; vaudine
I agree that someone is behind this and keeps ordering another crank of the wheel. I tried to get a comment from Murtha, but as you can see, the Rat wasn't home...


14 posted on 06/01/2009 6:56:59 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: jazusamo

*sigh* I thought this was done.


15 posted on 06/01/2009 6:57:31 PM PDT by lilycicero
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To: RedRover
Just two more, and it can't come soon enough...

AMEN to that, Red. Glad you posted those, was hoping you would.

16 posted on 06/01/2009 6:57:44 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: lilycicero

I hear you, Lily. I guess good things happen slow. :(


17 posted on 06/01/2009 6:59:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; RedRover; smoothsailing; Just A Nobody; freema; Lancey Howard; bigheadfred

My analysis has to do with the path of least resistance for the current commander, Corps, and administration.

First, the situation has been back-burnered for quite a while, so it’s out of the public mind.

Second, they keep getting smacked down when they go after the accused. The score is something like Accused 8, Persecutors 0 at this point. Far worse than that if you count rulings and appeals. Sometimes when you’re beating your head to a bloody pulp, it’s a good idea to pause at least for a second and ask some reasonable questions like: “Do we keep losing because we’re wrong?” and “What are we really trying to accomplish?” or “Are we nuts or what?”

Third, the original DoD, SecNav, and all other civilian players have changed, and they have different priorities that have them occupied right now. (See #1).

Fourth, Murtha is tied up right now with corruption charges, so he might really want to just let this one go. (See #1.)

Finally, Chessani doesn’t WANT a promotion and back pay. He simply wants to retire and fade away.

How hard can this decision be? It is not rocket science. Drop it and get it over. (Same with Wuterich, too, ‘cause Chessani’s UCI is imprinted now on Wuterich’s case.)


18 posted on 06/01/2009 7:05:21 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: jazusamo

Conway’s decision isn’t about Chessani. If it was, this disgraceful fiasco of prosecuting combat veterans for battlefield decisions made at Haditha would have been over long ago. No, this is about Frank Wuterich. Wuterich is the last chance the JAGoffs have to mount a trophy on their wall. If Chessani’s ordeal is offically slammed shut, then that means the finding of “unlawful command influence” stands. And if that stands, Wuterich is likely home free because his case would similarly have been unlawfully influenced.


19 posted on 06/01/2009 7:06:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: xzins

Very good reasoning, xzins, lets hope Gen. Conway sees it that way.


20 posted on 06/01/2009 7:09:47 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Lancey Howard

Your point is well taken. I’m praying they give this up for both Chessani and Wuterich.


21 posted on 06/01/2009 7:12:10 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Lancey Howard

I agree Lancey.


22 posted on 06/01/2009 7:24:36 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: bigheadfred

Yes. The Marine Corps has a long and honorable tradition of standing for its own. But I would judge that the commanders are between a rock and a hard place.

I like to think that if I were in command, I would not let political considerations get in the way of doing the right, just, and honorable thing, especially when it involved betraying a Marine instead of standing by him.

But the pressure must be enormous. Suppose he defies Murtha & Co., and then the Marine Corps is deprived of vital supplies in revenge. Many Marines might die in future combat because of that lack of supplies and support.

I’m still not persuaded that even such an eventuality would justify going along with this farce of a trial, but then I’m glad it’s not my decision to make.


23 posted on 06/01/2009 7:29:12 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: lilycicero

Hey! I’m here, too!


24 posted on 06/01/2009 7:33:19 PM PDT by RedRover (Where are you?)
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To: Lancey Howard

Agreed, unfortunately. I don’t think we’ll hear a decision on the Chessani case until Frank’s case is decided—whenever the hell that will be. Hope I’m wrong.


25 posted on 06/01/2009 7:35:52 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Cicero; Girlene

Wouldn’t it be nice to live in a world where a person, like a General, could stand up and say something just like that?

I’m sure there are many factors in play. But it is just that complicated crap that I object to the most.

I am a pretty “simple” person. But I have my principles. And I love this country and the people who sacrifice so much to defend her.

IMO, people like the little tin god Murtha need to be whittled down to the point I could take a sand wedge and loft his melon into the deep rough...and then just walk away.


26 posted on 06/01/2009 7:49:04 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: Lancey Howard

>> Wuterich is the last chance the JAGoffs have to mount a trophy on their wall.

They also spent a significant amount of time and money on this fiasco, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they felt compelled to produce something for that reason alone.


27 posted on 06/01/2009 8:05:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; RedRover; xzins
Sadly Lancey, your assessment is probably accurate. Gen. Conway has the power to rise above it,though, and dismiss the Chessani case and drop all charges. We'll see at some point what kind of a Marine he truly is.

Hopefully he'll choose the path laid out by Chappy.

28 posted on 06/01/2009 8:07:04 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jazusamo
I had the great pleasure of serving with General Conway twice. Once, while he was a Captain instructor at Quantico, VA and a second time when he was the S-3 of the 31st MAU in 1983. Of all of the Marine officers with whom I had the pleasure of serving it was my estimate that Conway was the one who should be the Commandant and if he were to obtain that rank it would be a win for the "good guys". A win for the private Marine and the non-political Marine Corps.

It is my fervent prayer that he drop the prosecution of Lt. Col Chessani and of SSGT Wutterich. It's my belief that he will protect the USMC - and I hope that he will do so with a long term strategic view of justice. Protecting his Marines instead of allowing the runaway politicians inside and out of the Marine Corps from having sway.

Semper Fi,

TS

29 posted on 06/01/2009 8:22:31 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: The Shrew

AMEN to that!

Thank you for your post and your service.


30 posted on 06/01/2009 8:27:05 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: RedRover

Well good golly...where have you been hiding?


31 posted on 06/01/2009 8:53:17 PM PDT by lilycicero (I'm still in KS...St. Jude and St. Joseph tag teamed the SOLD for the KS house.)
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To: RedRover
I don’t think we’ll hear a decision on the Chessani case until Frank’s case is decided—whenever the hell that will be.

Wuterich's attorneys could probably make a compelling argument that Frank's case should not proceed until final dispensation of the Chessani case. UCI is serious business, and the players were the same (Mattis and Ewers) in both cases.

32 posted on 06/01/2009 10:57:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: The Shrew

That sounds very encouraging. Mattis was supposed to be the same way, but he couldn’t find a way to end the fiasco. Here’s hoping Conway finds a way to make the nightmare go away for these heroic combat veterans.

By the way, whenever a new Haditha thread pops up I like to remind readers that a Marine was killed in the ambush at Haditha. His name was Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas.

FRegards,
LH


33 posted on 06/01/2009 11:06:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I’m afraid you hit the nail on the head! This case is definitely about Frank. If Chessani’s case is dropped, then so is Frank’s.

Let’s hope Conway makes the “right” decision. I pray every day that this “fiasco” ends.


34 posted on 06/01/2009 11:06:42 PM PDT by Semper Fi Mom (Mother of a Marine and proud of it! (www.WeSupport Frank.com))
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To: smoothsailing; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; RedRover; bigheadfred; brityank; lilycicero; Girlene; ...

Perhaps the most important thing for Gen Conway to look at is the actual scenario of that day now that the smoke of propaganda has been cleared away by all the evidence coming forth.

It would be wise to compile all the evidence, and use it to get a new take on what transpired that day in Haditha.

The courts who’ve had to look at that have all determined that our Marines did not do anything other than respond to an urban attack by enemy insurgents.

There are facts in evidence now all the way from eye in the sky to little girls talking about knowing when the bomb would go off to Marines talking about hearing rounds being chambered. There are facts about Chessani reporting up the chain, about the chain following numerous attacks that day in Haditha, and there are UNTOLD facts yet to come out about how units actually had been handling the reporting (formally or informally) as the war had settled into “standard practices” instead of “by the book reports.” (Those who’ve been military know exactly what I mean by that.)

If Gen Conway were to actually look at the facts of the case, I think it would be easy to determine that Chessani had done his duty, that the firefight was justified, and that enemy propaganda is the only reason this went forward.

Let’s pray someone (Nat Helms or Defend our Marines?) compiles all this and sends it to him. I doubt he’ll get it from HQ remfs.


35 posted on 06/02/2009 5:08:40 AM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: Lancey Howard
a Marine was killed in the ambush at Haditha. His name was Lance Corporal Miguel Terrazas.

Thank you for posting that, Lancey. That fact seems to be forgotten many times when new or important info comes out on the fiasco of these persecutions.

36 posted on 06/02/2009 9:05:10 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Well, I guess we shall soon see if justice shall be served. The Colonel’s career is obviously destroyed. Will he at least get a fair decision from the General to end this madness.


37 posted on 06/02/2009 10:16:12 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (I still believe Duncan Hunter would have been the best solution... during this interim in time....)
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To: RedRover
Agreed, unfortunately. I don’t think we’ll hear a decision on the Chessani case until Frank’s case is decided—whenever the hell that will be.

Not that the Marine Corps justice system has spent much time trying to provide any semblance of a timely and orderly search for the truth, choosing instead to permanently etch a dubious place in history as politically driven and readily corrupted by power.....other than the devastating UCI award pinned to the skins of some amazingly dishonorable officers, the Shrieking Blind Rage Brigade shows no sign or concern for undermining the Corps' credibility, much less the foresight that any unbiased panel will bury them, they will be known as traitors to the Corps and to the United States.

I hope you and/or Nat writes a book on this, Red, and every military lawyer, judge, prosecutor, investigator (or multipurpose prosecutor/witness/investigator such as Pigott or Fox)is put through Basic Ethics training, with the penalty for a sub par grade being time to contemplate their treachery in Leavenworth.

38 posted on 06/04/2009 3:12:08 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Obama Voodoo economics - Thuggery, sleight of hand, temper tantrums & spitting on OUR dreams.)
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To: The Shrew

We used to think that about Mattis, too.


39 posted on 06/04/2009 7:40:16 PM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: RaceBannon
We used to think that about Mattis, too.

I never met General Mattis. I was just telling Freepers of my experience with General Conway. Not name-dropping; just giving you my opinion.

Semper Fi,

TS

40 posted on 06/04/2009 7:56:39 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: The Shrew

I know, not an attack, just something that saddened us in the Pendleton 8 case. We all thought that the man we respectd from back in the day just let this happen to one of his Marines.

We saw how government interference and command influence destroyed the Pendleton 8. I only wish a sitting congressman slandered Larry Hutchins so we got more media attention.

They were orderd to do a snatch and grab to intentionally do a hit and then got court martialed for it with a pack of lies and each and every congressman that sent his aide to sit in that courtroom knew it, was informed of it in detail, and then went home and ignored it.

Larry is doing 11 years in Leavenworth for a crime that even his squadmates testified they did the shooting to kill the man.

An Autopsy that doesn’t match testimony, either. Not by a long shot.

Sad.


41 posted on 06/05/2009 5:46:55 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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