Posted on 05/31/2009 6:43:17 AM PDT by wolfcreek
Adesperate — and ridiculous — claim that Sonia Sotomayor would not be the first Hispanic justice to take the U.S. Supreme Court bench is very revealing. There are actually people claiming with a straight face that Benjamin Cardozo, appointed to the court by Herbert Hoover in 1932, was the first Hispanic justice.
(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...
BTW: Google *Cardozo* as notice it is Spanish in origin.
Here we go again Ping!
But dammit, I am going to write an entire column arguing about it.
The La Raza and “Hispanic” activists do not care for the Castillan or “white” Spanish speakers.
Without Identity Politics the Democraps would have no politics at all.
I guess the writer thinks Cardozo didn’t “look Hispanic.” Interesting. The snarky racism/ethicism of the left is not a pretty thing to witness.
so Cadozo was hispanic.
but he is the wrong hispanic for the racists.
isn’t this why they adopted the “Latino” designation? People miss the fact that “latino” was often used as derrogatory for illegal alien in the USA.
Hispanic just meant descended from native spanish speakers.
So why else would racists who support Sotomayer hate Cardozo?
The Democrats are the biggest RACISTS and want to keep their "PLANTATION" going!
Sonia Sotomayor went to private grade school, high school, college and law school, all in the normal sequence.
Personally, I’d called her a pampered American girl.
Wouldn’t that make Obama the wrong black for blacks? Since he is half white and we are not sure about the black; maybe Arab?
“The U.S. Department of Transportation defines Hispanic to include, “persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race.”[15] This definition has been adopted by the Small Business Administration as well as many federal, state, and municipal agencies for the purposes of awarding government contracts to minority owned businesses. Still, other government agencies adopt definitions that exclude people from Spain. Some others include people from Brazil, but not Spain or Portugal.”
Wiki: Hispanic
Used as a convinient term during the quest from Fed dollars.
Why not use the federal government's definition, junior? "The [federal] OMB defines Hispanic or Latino as 'a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race,' " and that determination is "based on self-identification." It is NOT limited to "people descended from the countries that were once ruled by Spain in the New World."
Typical media bull crap...
WTH is Hispanic? Ping
"... There is a long story there, but suffice it to say you can call me an American or Mexican American or Tejano... You could call me Latino if you're still looking for a handle."
We could call you 'Arnold', which is about the most Hispanic name I can think of.
If Benjamin Cardozo doesn't get to be regarded as Hispanic, then neither does Martin Sheen (Emelio Estevez) or Desi Arnaz or newspaper editors named Arnold Garcia Jr.
Cardoza was Portugese - they do not speak Spanish.
“Sonia Sotomayor went to private grade school, high school, college and law school, all in the normal sequence.
Personally, I’d called her a pampered American girl.”
ding ding ding!
It is her mother who has a “compelling life story”!
I doubt Ben ever gave it much thought though nor, I'll bet, did he ever let it influence his judgment.
I guess he just wasn't Hispanic enough for today's identity whores.
“Wouldn’t that make Obama the wrong black for blacks?”
....here’s a black preacher that questions Obama’s blackness:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuEc-nFULY8
No. He's a far-left-wing socialist. He's perfect. Clarence Thomas is the wrong black for blacks. So are Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder and anyone else who believes in The Constitution and the primacy of the individual over the group.
was your face straight? LOL!
google cardozo and hispanic and see if you can find anything dated prior to 5/26/09=the better and more accurate search : )
I was referring to color.
I would say what they are told.
Both Cardozo's maternal grandparents, Sara Seixas and Isaac Mendes Seixas Nathan, and his paternal grandparents, Ellen Hart and Michael H. Cardozo, were Sephardi Jews of the Spanish and Portuguese Jewish community affiliated with Manhattan's Congregation Shearith Israel; their families immigrated from England before the American Revolution, and were descended from Jews who left the Iberian Peninsula for Holland during the Inquisition.[1] Cardozo family tradition held that their ancestors were Marranos from Portugal,[1] although Cardozo's ancestry has not been firmly traced to Portugal.[2] "Cardoso", "Seixas" and "Mendes" are common Portuguese surnames.
Hitler was quoted in a prewar interview saying: “Why does the world shed crocodile’s tears over the richly merited fate of a small Jewish minority?”
It’s obvious by Obama standards that poor Adolph was guilty of using a poor choice of words.
This thread is about identity politics. Thought you might be interested.
What is the basis of your arguement? The Jewish factor? The fact your law professor said so? Some ind of lawyer *thing*? What difference does it make to you?
I think he is on to something.
it makes the same amount of differenceto me that it does to you. it’s stupid to say he was the first hispanic justice. did you ever ask your father if he was considered to be hispanic?
Wolfcreek, Cardozo is a Portuguese name. Some Portuguese take exception to being called Hispanic: sort of like an Italian taking exception to being called Hispanic.
That part has nothing to do with right or left wings.
I think we all are.
See the link @ #32. It’s hardly *stupid*.
Are you Jewish, BTW?
Not surprising, considering the number of centuries Spain and Portugal were either at war, or competing.
I’m going to change my name from John Q. Public to:
Fulana de Tal.
I also like “Mengana y Zutana”.
Italians are the original Latinos.
After observing the ethnic wars in Sacramentio in the 70s and 80s, including at the State personnel Board, I never saw or heard of any Portuguese claim to be Hispanic. In fact they wanted just the opposite. I did see the Filipinos testify to being Hispanic by virtue of having been a Spanish colony. That's when the state came up with Asian/Pacific Islander. When La Raza and some of the state Hispanic groups got started, they wouldn't even include Cubans.
Everything is about power and who gets to be included and who doesn't.
Yeah, that was my experience here in NJ. We have sizeable numbers of Portuguese, who are out-numbered by “Hispanics”- notably Puerto Ricans- by a pretty good margin.
In the Newark area, the Portuguese-descended tend to be stable middle class (as opposed to the “Hispanics”); but in one town a few miles from me, Portuguese have about the same status as Puerto Ricans, and are regarded by the cops as a pain in the butt.
Miguel Estrada could well have been the first Hispanic Supreme Court justice. But he was deemed Hispanic in name only, since he is a conservative, and his appointment as a federal Appeals court judge was blocked by Democrats for two years. The liberals sure love to pretend that never happened.
Miguel Estrada was deemed to be hispanic in name only because he's a conservative. It isn't enough to have a preferred racial label. You also must have the proper liberal viewpoints (see also: Thomas, Clarence).
Since you appear to be trying to pigeonhole me in some way to get a gasp on why i think suddenly calling him hispanic is stupid [because he was NOT so designated, prior to 5/26/09], let me just say i am Roman Catholic, of Eastern European extraction, all four grandparents came via Ellis Island. i don’t know how that squares up with what you are trying to say about me. I told you I am a lawyer, and every colleague i have asked about whether Cardozo was hispanic has laughed heartily. As i told you from the outset, technically, if you insist on going by your Wiki definition of hispanic, go ahead call him hispanic. The reason it is stupid to do so, is the man was not so considered in his liftime, nor SINCE, prior to 5/26/09.
So why else would racists who support Sotomayer hate Cardozo?
Here’s why they hate him and want to pretend his background was not Hispanic: He was Jewish and definitely not a beneficiary of Affirmative Action or anything resembling it and he loved the United States and all her people equally and took the U.S. Constitution seriously and he was an outstanding jurist.
There are numerous posters on this thread who have stated that people of portuguese extraction in no way consider themselves hispanic; that also goes to why it is stupid to so designate Benjamin Cardozo.
Was HE Hispanic? Was HIS nomination historic?
Was opposition to HIM racist? Did the Democrats "blow" the Hispanic vote by opposing him?
I've done the research and the surname *Cardozo* has Spanish origins whether anyone wants to believe it or not.
http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Cardozo
IMO, people who insist they are this or that or some hyphenated version of something are NOT true Americans, intend to live within their isolationist communities and can NOT be counted on to support this country.
BTW: supposedly the Ben Cardozo’s family left the Iberian peninsula to escape persecution during the Inquesition. Others Jews who chose to stay, converted to Catholicism and are only now seeking their Jewish roots and supporting Israel.
In the big valley in Cal and in the Chino area many Portugese came in as shepherds.
I didn’t know that. I seem to recall mention of Basque herders - but that might have been elsewhere.
Most of the “Port-a-gees” I’ve run across have been decent, hard-working people, whom it was a pleasure to know.
Your tagline is one of the core truths of our time.
Professor Andy Kaufman, A biographer of Cardozo, writes:
“...The family tree is filled with names like Seixas, Mendes, Gomez, Riveiro, Navarro, Peixotto, and Pachecho, indicating their heritage as Sephardic Jews from the Iberian Peninsula.
I have had many long conversations with a variety of newspaper people about whether Cardozo was the first whatever-name-you-want-to-use. It’s all in the context. Many Spanish would deny that Portuguese are Hispanic. Many Jews do not regard themselves as ethnically part of the European country they came from. Many Sephardic Jews probably do regard themselves as ethnically Spanish and Portuguese and Cardozo’s synagogue was and still is known as the Spanish and Portuguese Synagogue.... [A] number of years ago the Portuguese consul in Boston enlisted my help in trying to get Cardozo on an American stamp as part of a Portuguese-American celebration. And more by the way, just last week, I was the speaker at the farewell dinner for the current Portuguese consul in Boston. She suffered an attack of migraine in a bookstore and when she opened her eyes, she found herself staring at a book called Cardozo, recognized it as a Portuguese name, and asked me to speak. The name Cardozo still resonates for Portuguese.
Sincerely,
Andrew Kaufman”
http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/2009/05/13_kaufman.html
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