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PC-maker Dell's profits slump 63%
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Posted on 05/28/2009 7:33:56 PM PDT by traumer

Dell has seen its latest quarterly profits decline by almost two-thirds as the worldwide recession continues to hit sales of computers.

The world's second-largest maker of personal computers made a net profit of $290m (£182m) in the three months to 1 May, down 63% from $784m a year ago.

Revenues at the firm fell 23% to $12.3bn. However the results were better than analysts had feared.

Dell said the global trading environment remained "challenging".

'Cutting costs'

Dell has already moved to cut costs in the face of falling sales, reducing its global workforce by more than 9,000 positions over the past year.

While it made no new announcement on possible additional cuts, it said it was continuing cost reduction efforts.

"We're continuing to transform the company on the cost side and delivering strong cash flow," said chairman and chief executive Michael Dell.

The firm's results come a week after rival Hewlett-Packard said its latest quarterly profit declined 17%, and that it was cutting 2% of its workforce, or 6,400 jobs.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; bestcomputer; bhoeconomy; computers; dell; macintosh; second100days; spamiswindows
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1 posted on 05/28/2009 7:33:56 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

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Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:16 AM

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I was curious.


2 posted on 05/28/2009 7:37:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: traumer

Great time to buy a new computer?


3 posted on 05/28/2009 7:37:24 PM PDT by doc1019 (Without White Liberal Guilt, Obama would just be another worthless Congress critter.)
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To: traumer

4 posted on 05/28/2009 7:41:36 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: traumer

Guess I should be looking for a new job tomorrow.......


5 posted on 05/28/2009 7:42:15 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: doc1019

Might be a great time to buy a new computer, but don’t buy a Dell. The recession is only one reason their sales are down. Another is that their products don’t last long and their customer service is abominable, nightmarish, horrendous. I wouldn’t take one as a gift. I don’t mean that as an exaggeration, either: we’ve had Dells as gifts for my kids and they ended up causing so much trouble that I wish very much we had never accepted them.


6 posted on 05/28/2009 7:43:16 PM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama! (If you're old enough, you'll understand the reference))
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To: ottbmare

My last few computer have been Gateways … mayhap I should stick with them for my next one? Can’t afford a MAC, nowhere else to go.


7 posted on 05/28/2009 7:48:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (Without White Liberal Guilt, Obama would just be another worthless Congress critter.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
When Steve Jobs was asked what he would do with Dell, he responded:
"What would I do? I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders."
Oops that wasn't Jobs said but what Michael Dell said about Apple in 1997.
8 posted on 05/28/2009 7:49:08 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: ottbmare

Every experience I’ve had with a Dell has been bad.


9 posted on 05/28/2009 7:49:34 PM PDT by MarkeyD (OBAMA. Chains we can believe in!)
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To: MarkeyD

Ya know, I’ve had just the opposite. I’ve owned a number of Dell business laptops, and have three commercial grade servers from them - never had a single hardware problem. I, of course, completely wipe the machines when I get them and do my own install of everything.

Just ordered another server - an amazing box, 2x Quad core 3Ghz processors, 32G RAM and 500Gb Raid 5 15k rpm drives. Under $7500, 36 months 0% interest - same as cash. Can’t freaking beat it. Will be running about 10 VMs on it.


10 posted on 05/28/2009 7:53:58 PM PDT by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: traumer
DELL sucks.

The last time I ever called they're support, (8 years ago) after being on hold 15 minutes, I got some guy from India...I must have said, "Huh, what, I can't understand you" 500 freaking times....

I finally just hung up out of utter frustration.

Never bought another DELL again.

11 posted on 05/28/2009 7:54:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ottbmare

Lots of nice Dells on craigslist.


12 posted on 05/28/2009 7:56:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: traumer

Michael Dell personally invested with Soros, JC Flowers and John Paulson to buy Indy Mac after it was wiped out probably by hedge fund shorts (soros, flowers and paulson).

So they wipe out companies shorting them for a huge profit, buy em up cheap with financing from uncle sam plus have billions in tax loss carry fowards.

I will never buy another Dell computer.


13 posted on 05/28/2009 7:56:25 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: ottbmare

I always buy Dell. Never a problem.


14 posted on 05/28/2009 7:57:05 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED. Barack OBORTION is a close second.)
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To: jiggyboy
"Dude, you're getting a sell!"
15 posted on 05/28/2009 7:59:35 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: ottbmare

How about HP?

I’ll trade your worst Dell story over the “best” that HP 1st tier customer service can offer. Hands down the fn worst.


16 posted on 05/28/2009 8:01:44 PM PDT by max americana
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To: doc1019

You might consider building your own. It’s quite easy. If you want to make sure all the parts will work together well, just buy a “barebone kit” from Tiger Direct or NewEgg, along with an operating system to install.


17 posted on 05/28/2009 8:01:44 PM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: FatherofFive
I always buy Dell. Never a problem.

I build my own for home use, but at work I've never had a problem with a Dell server.

18 posted on 05/28/2009 8:02:48 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: traumer

still profitable.


19 posted on 05/28/2009 8:03:44 PM PDT by bluedressman
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To: dragnet2

When I get the VOIP transfer to India I tell them i want to speak to someone in the United States. I think I did that once with HP and the American kids solved it in 2 minutes.

HP’s stuff generally runs forever.


20 posted on 05/28/2009 8:05:50 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: traumer

The school district I work for switched from Dell to HP computers. I’m guessing things like this are not helping Dell.


21 posted on 05/28/2009 8:06:33 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: FatherofFive
Same here, but my last one was purchased new in 2004, and I got a truly killer deal on a barebones box that I upgraded myself. I've had a lot of experience working on computers, so I wasn't worried about tech support.

I have no idea how well their machines work now, but I have a brand new one in my cube at work. It's only been five weeks, but so far, so good.

22 posted on 05/28/2009 8:09:34 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: doc1019
Can’t afford a MAC, nowhere else to go.

Check this out; you may be able to upgrade to a Mac for less than you think:

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20" starts at $1199 (complete; no extras like antivirus, etc)

Link to iMac

Link to Why Switch?

23 posted on 05/28/2009 8:16:54 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: ottbmare

Don’t know what to say, but I have had mostly Dells since the first Compaq and they like any other computer can break and have problems.

Compared to what I hear about other computers, Dell is head and shoulders above all the others when it comes to standing behind their product. Dell’s Customer Service is at times a little slow, but I’ve learned to tell them I’ll go over their head and that works almost every time.

I would not buy another brand. Sorry to hear they are down that much.


24 posted on 05/28/2009 8:21:47 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: MarkeyD
My Dell desktop was fine, but the laptop sucked. Everyone I know (including myself) has seen massive battery performance drops after about 2 months. My old HP Pavillion laptop’s battery lasted about 2 years before it started to go downhill. Other than that the HP was a good unit.

I eBayed my Dell laptop (Vostro) and bought a Toshiba laptop - so far so good.

25 posted on 05/28/2009 8:22:24 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: doc11355

Thanks, will check it out.


26 posted on 05/28/2009 8:23:38 PM PDT by doc1019 (Without White Liberal Guilt, Obama would just be another worthless Congress critter.)
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To: ottbmare

Great, I just got a new Dell laptop for work. Wonder what kind of a nightmare I’m in for.

Fortunately I won’t have to deal with their customer service, just our own IT department.


27 posted on 05/28/2009 8:24:10 PM PDT by Cymbaline (Bipartisan consensus - that's like when my doctor and my lawyer agree with my wife that I need help.)
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To: traumer; ShadowAce

I’m sure Windows Vista couldn’t have helped sales any.

I know several people that have been holding off on buying a new ‘brand name’ computer because they don’t want Vista.


28 posted on 05/28/2009 8:24:38 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: doc11355

Have you (or anyone else) ever “Hackintosh”-ed their PC into a Mac? Does it really work?


29 posted on 05/28/2009 8:24:45 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: kc8ukw
"You might consider building your own. It’s quite easy. If you want to make sure all the parts will work together well, just buy a “barebone kit” from Tiger Direct or NewEgg, along with an operating system to install."

A VERY good recommendation! The best computer I've ever owned, I built myself by ordering all of the parts from newegg. I built it a little over three years ago, and I'm still using it and haven't had the first bit of trouble. I don't even recall ever having to reboot it because of a problem. You get so much more for your money by building your own too, and you know that all of the parts and components are of high quality. I spent a little over $1,000 on mine, and a comparable system from one of the big manufacturers would have been over $2,000 at the time. Of course one could build one for a lot less expense. It just depends on what the system will be used for.

30 posted on 05/28/2009 8:33:02 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SoldierDad

” The school district I work for switched from Dell to HP computers “

I teach in Japan and the school district here in my town is switching from Dell to HP , too .


31 posted on 05/28/2009 8:33:36 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: sushiman

That can’t be good news for Dell.


32 posted on 05/28/2009 8:39:35 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: traumer
Dell...you love them or you hate them.

I only buy used Dells, and fix them up myself. Never had a problem, but then I'm the geeky gadget grandma.

33 posted on 05/28/2009 8:45:39 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: kc8ukw

I’ve owned two Dell PC’s and two laptops. They are OK, but not great. Difficult to upgrade as they tend to be “proprietary” with their components. For example, I can’t install a card reader in my XPS 400 because it doesn’t have internal USB ports.

I recently built/rebuilt two computers for my sons with components from New Egg. Not only are they better than my Dell, I probably only put $300 into each one, and it was actually fun to build them.

I’ll never buy factory built again. I’m custom building on my own from now on.


34 posted on 05/28/2009 8:47:59 PM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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To: ottbmare
Might be a great time to buy a new computer, but don’t buy a Dell. The recession is only one reason their sales are down. Another is that their products don’t last long and their customer service is abominable, nightmarish, horrendous. I wouldn’t take one as a gift.

I assemble and upgrade my desktop computers myself, but I've had good experiences with Dell laptops. I have two, both over 4 years old. One developed video card problems within the warranty period and was fixed and returned very quickly. The other has never had a problem. Both are in heavy use daily by me, my wife, and our kids.
35 posted on 05/28/2009 8:52:41 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: hunter112

i own 3 dells. bought a desktop in 1998. laptop in 2001 and another laptop in 2004. All 3 still run great. my 98 box is basically a firewall for the two laptops which make great browsers. the key with their laptops is that if you really like it buy another battery asap and store it away and that will last you 5 years easy. at end of their next quarter I am going to buy a 32GB ram server for under $5000 with operating systems and several TB of storage. Same machine cost over $100k just 4 years ago.


36 posted on 05/28/2009 8:53:05 PM PDT by bluedressman
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To: traumer

They still made a profit.


37 posted on 05/28/2009 8:59:44 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: kc8ukw

Many years ago my desktop started life as a Compaq but since then I’ve upgraded almost every component myself (including the case) so that the only original parts left are the DVD player and the monitor. When I replace this I am definitely building from scratch. It’s easy and fun and I like knowing what is inside my computer.

Laptops are obviously a different thing. I have a Dell and I’ve never had any problems with it. I bought it after observing another Dell laptop on my last ship that ran our digital navigation display software 24/7 for a six month deployment with no problems at all.


38 posted on 05/28/2009 9:10:35 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: traumer

Computer companies, in general, are hurting as so many IT departments have skipped upgrading and replacing hardware because Vista sucked so bad in the workplace. Everyone’s been waiting for Windows 7. You’ll probably see a big upswing in sales after it’s released and proven better than Vista.


39 posted on 05/28/2009 9:12:55 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: dragnet2
“Huh, what, I can't understand you” 500 freaking times.... <<

Time to learn the mother tongue

40 posted on 05/28/2009 9:14:13 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: dusttoyou

Not so much: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/17/apple-tops-pc-customer-service-rankings/

“Apple notched an 80 percent, or “good” rating, in Forrester’s customer experience index, which is an average of responses on topics like whether companies meet customer needs and make products that are easy and enjoyable to use.

Gateway scored a 66; Hewlett-Packard, a 64; and Compaq (a brand owned by H.P.), a 63 — scores that Forrester considers “poor” rankings in the customer experience index.

Dell got a miserly 58 percent, a “very poor” rating. “


41 posted on 05/28/2009 9:19:41 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Mmm, didn’t people say that about Vista when XP was lagging?


42 posted on 05/28/2009 9:21:25 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rawhide

Apple made $1.21 billion profit in Q2 2009.

Dell making a mere $290 mil looks... weak.

Michael Dell should shut down the company and give the money back to the shareholders.


43 posted on 05/28/2009 9:24:42 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: M-cubed

Speaking of tongues, the guy from India that called himself, “Bob” sounded as though he had a cows tongue..I only understood ever 6th word or so. I started speaking gibberish back to him at one point and he just kept going on like we were having a normal conversation. The babble went on and on...I just hung up.


44 posted on 05/28/2009 9:25:33 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: GOPsterinMA

Yes, but you need to get certain brands and models of hardware and motherboards, etc., to do it.


45 posted on 05/28/2009 9:25:42 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: farlander

My Dell laptop is at least 5 years and going strong.

My new HP laptop, just lost its’ wireless connection and when I went to HP forum on my Dell, I discovered that after a year they crap out. Everyone that had one do this and it was out of warranty, said HP told them there was nothing HP could do. I am now using a Netgear USB wireless on it.


46 posted on 05/28/2009 9:29:12 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: traumer
Dell business class systems are really good. I use large scale systems down to laptops. If you go with consumer class, the components are generally cheaper quality and won't last as long.

Same with HP/Compaq - their servers are very reliable, but HP consumer class laptops are low quality and have problems.

47 posted on 05/28/2009 9:30:44 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: dragnet2
Have you read Friedman's "World is Flat"?
He takes a trip to a help desk outsourcing facility in India. At the call center, employees are grouped by "teams" according to their corporate funding. They practice english by taking courses and give themselves American names to appear "customer friendly."

It's mildly entertaining until you realize they are reading a script and cannot solve your problem.

48 posted on 05/28/2009 9:34:38 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: traumer
In my experience, the build quality and support for Dell's business-class products ranges from good to excellent. It's their consumer-grade computers that are poor, including support. Basically, Dell has total disdain for their consumer customers.
49 posted on 05/28/2009 9:38:16 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: stainlessbanner

I know.

That’s why I build my own computers today. I figured out 8 or so years ago, calling support is a sad joke.


50 posted on 05/28/2009 9:38:22 PM PDT by dragnet2
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