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2 Ex-Timesmen Say They Had a Tip on Watergate First
NYT ^ | May 24, 2009 | Richard Perez-Pena

Posted on 05/24/2009 10:00:02 PM PDT by re_tail20

The Watergate break-in eventually forced a presidential resignation and turned two Washington Post reporters into pop-culture heroes. But almost 37 years after the break-in, two former New York Times journalists have stepped forward to say that The Times had the scandal nearly in its grasp before The Post did — and let it slip.

Robert M. Smith, a former Times reporter, says that two months after the burglary, over lunch at a Washington restaurant, the acting director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, L. Patrick Gray, disclosed explosive aspects of the case, including the culpability of the former attorney general, John Mitchell, and hinted at White House involvement.

Mr. Smith rushed back to The Times’s bureau in Washington to repeat the story to Robert H. Phelps, an editor there, who took notes and tape-recorded the conversation, according to both men. But then Mr. Smith had to hand off the story — he had quit The Times and was leaving town the next day to attend Yale Law School.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: watergate

1 posted on 05/24/2009 10:00:02 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

I was at Woodstock.


2 posted on 05/24/2009 10:06:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: re_tail20

So Smith is saying he’s the Michael Isikoff of Watergate?


3 posted on 05/24/2009 10:08:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: re_tail20

So L. Patrick Gray, the F.B.I.’s number one guy, was leaking to the New York Times, while W. Mark Felt, the F.B.I.’s number two guy, was leaking to the Washington Post.

If only J. Edgar Hoover had lived a few more months, he would have still been director during the break in, and nobody would have leaked anything.


4 posted on 05/24/2009 10:09:25 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

In news reporting, it doesn’t matter what you know and when you know it: it matters when you make it public. And it’s too late to bother about Watergate now.


5 posted on 05/24/2009 10:16:12 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: re_tail20

Wasn’t it the NYT that thought “Deep Throat” was Marilyn Chambers?


6 posted on 05/24/2009 10:27:07 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: re_tail20
Shareholders, take joy: “We came that close to nailing Nixon.”
7 posted on 05/24/2009 10:31:52 PM PDT by dighton
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To: re_tail20
The details of the break-in would have leaked eventually and Nixon would have gone down. He was is way too deep to back out.
8 posted on 05/24/2009 10:51:51 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: re_tail20

I invented Harry Potter, but that darn Rowling woman rushed her book out first.


9 posted on 05/25/2009 1:30:44 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: re_tail20

I could have stopped the JFK assissination, but my father made me walk the dog to the bakery and buy a dozen rolls and a pound of ham.

After that day I re-named my dog Hamlet.


10 posted on 05/25/2009 3:44:01 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: re_tail20

I formally nominate them for an “Almost Pulitzer”.


11 posted on 05/25/2009 4:04:37 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: trumandogz

I can ask 100 people, “What the was the objective of those responsible for the break-in?” 99 would not know. So, if the story broke early, it would still only be half the story.

Hint: According to Liddy (every lawsuit against his claims have been dismissed), it involves call-girl rings, a Democratic Party secretary who may have been a glorified madam, and the fiancee of President Nixon’s White House counsel John Dean. Maxie Wells, the former DNC secretary, kept call-girl records in her desk and arranged dates for dignitaries.

The blackmail threat to lawmakers was very real and running a prostitution ring out of the DNC headquarters seems like belongs as part of the story.


12 posted on 05/25/2009 4:28:14 AM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: re_tail20

If they find the tape of the conversation, it will probably have an 18 1/2-minute gap at the crucial point.


13 posted on 05/25/2009 10:18:26 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: re_tail20

So the Dems have run the national debt up so high we can’t pay the interest and they are talking about an event that means nothing now.


14 posted on 05/25/2009 10:21:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: bmwcyle

Expect Iran-Contra stories to start showing up too.


15 posted on 05/25/2009 10:23:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: dfwgator

I am so sick of hearing about Watergate. A liberal brought it up last year around me. By the time I was finished educating him about John Dean’s role in the whole matter, he shut up.


16 posted on 05/25/2009 10:30:10 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: bmwcyle
....an event that means nothing now...

Had Nixon not fallen:
Ford would not have been president and South Vietnam would have remained free.
Carter would not have been president and Iran would not have become a terror sponsoring nation.
The Soviets would not have invaded Afghanistan and Saddam would not have invaded Kuwait.
Osama bin Laden would not have been radicalized and 9/11 would not have happened.

17 posted on 05/25/2009 10:42:09 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: cartoonistx
You wake up in the morning and play your hand. The real moral standards of life don't change. You learn from past mistakes but you can't change the past.

Watergate means nothing today.

18 posted on 05/25/2009 10:46:31 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: BushCountry

I remember hearing years ago that Dean’s fiancee Maureen was rooming with a prostitute. I’ve always wondered if the whole mess wasn’t all about John Dean wanting to find out if his intended was hooking, too, and/or cover it up in some way.


19 posted on 05/25/2009 10:51:52 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: re_tail20

Check out this comment which just popped up on Romenesko.

http://www.poynter.org/article_feedback/article_feedback_list.asp?user=&id=164132

Maybe...
Posted by Ed Gray 5/25/2009 2:27:20 PM

As I explained to Richard Perez-Pena when he called me to verify and comment on his Phelps/Smith story, my father’s daily appointment calendar do... As I explained to Richard Perez-Pena when he called me to verify and comment on his Phelps/Smith story, my father’s daily appointment calendar does show the lunch he shared with Smith along with several other interviews with the then-young reporter at different times. During those two months after the burglary, my father gave dozens of on-the-record interviews to many reporters, including Bob Woodward. He talked at length and on the record with other New York Times and Washington Post reporters, among them Walter Rugaber and Sandy Ungar. He gave interviews to nearly every important Washington bureau reporter, many of whom are still reporting today. In not one of any of those other interviews did L. Patrick Gray pass along anything like what Phelps and Smith now claim he passed along to Smith. Readers of Phelps’s new book will have to judge for themselves why neither the young reporter nor the then-editor can explain why no story was ever written based on the “explosive aspects” supposedly passed along by Gray on this one occasion. Had my father intended to leak anything at all about Watergate or any other subject of interest to the FBI, rest assured that he would have made sure that the story got published.

As for Woodward and Bernstein, questions remain unanswered about their own sources. As I also explained to Perez-Pena, my father always knew that “Deep Throat” was a fictional composite made up by Woodward from several individual sources. Those individuals included Mark Felt, Donald Santarelli, now-Senator Robert Bennett, and others not yet named by Woodward. See my father’s memoir “In Nixon’s Web,” which I co-wrote, and our website (www.lpatrickgrayiii.com) for details.
—Ed Gray


20 posted on 05/25/2009 12:03:03 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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the book, he wrote, “We never developed Gray’s tips into publishable stories. Why we failed is a mystery to me.”

Probably because the truth of the matter was that a low-level break in was not a big deal.

The Washington Post just lied it out of all proportion to make it a big deal, exactly like the MSM did with Obambi last year.

21 posted on 05/25/2009 12:20:22 PM PDT by what's up
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what's up said: "The Washington Post just lied it out of all proportion to make it a big deal, exactly like the MSM did with Obambi last year. "

The President of the United States offers hush money to cover-up a political burglary financed by a secret fund controlled by the Attorney General of the U.S., and you don't think this was a big deal?

I believe that SIXTY-FIVE people were convicted of felonies, most of them lawyers, and you don't think this was a big deal?

The President apparently obstructed justice by intentionally erasing 18 minutes of taped evidence, and you don't think this was a big deal?

22 posted on 05/25/2009 1:19:48 PM PDT by William Tell
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I believe that SIXTY-FIVE people were convicted of felonies

Yeah at the height of commie shenanigans when every liberal graduate and his brother were going into the field of prosecution.

NYT were releasing the Pentagon Papers and the journalistic field was twisting truth to the tune of millions of people being slaughtered in SE Asia as a result of them lying about the Tet offensive.

As far as erasing the tapes, many journalists have wondered why Nixon didn't just destroy the tapes completely. Truth is, he was too honest. He should have done it under Executive privilege. Most of what they revealed was that he cussed. That more than anything else ended up "outraging" the American people.

23 posted on 05/25/2009 3:07:41 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
what's up said: "Yeah at the height of commie shenanigans when every liberal graduate and his brother were going into the field of prosecution."

I don't think there was any prosecutorial misconduct involved. Most of the convicted pled guilty and were quite clearly guilty of conspiring together to obstruct justice.

What outcome of Watergate would you have preferred?

24 posted on 05/25/2009 5:10:07 PM PDT by William Tell
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