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California Supreme Court's ruling on same-sex marriage ban nears (Prop 8 ruling)
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 20 May 2009 | Howard Mintz

Posted on 05/21/2009 11:03:40 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

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To: skyman
True. The influence of the California Teachers' Union, in conjunction with our media, to indoctrinate and corrupt/pervert our children.
41 posted on 05/21/2009 12:52:18 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Rose Bird was turned out over her decisions.


42 posted on 05/21/2009 1:32:03 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: rivercat; fr_freak

I stand corrected. That’s what moving from Lompoc to San Diego will to for you.


43 posted on 05/21/2009 2:22:49 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: HerrBlucher

I always wonder about that also. Because proposed ballot initiatives are reviewed and have to go through a process to be approved to gather signatures. Then, the signatures have to be reviewed to ensure that enough valid signatures are on the petitions. Part of the vetting process is that a proposed initiative has to be legal in the first place. For example, you couldn’t have a ballot initiative to take away women’s right to vote, because that would conflict with established federal law and the constitution.

So, clearly, a determination was made that it was legal for the voters of California to vote on the definition of marriage. The gay activists only started saying it was an illegal improper subject to vote on after Proposition 8 was approved.


44 posted on 05/21/2009 7:20:50 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Argus
Proposition 8 DOES NOT BAN ANYTHING. It simply affirms what was settled custom and law in California - and everywhere else on planet Earth since the dawn of history - that marriage is an exclusively heterosexual thang.

The liberals find some judge somewhere to uphold some wacky new “civil right” for five minutes before it’s overturned, and then that five minute right becomes set in stone for all time, and any attempt to restore the sane status quo ante becomes a “ban” or some other kind of oppression. It’s a neat, albeit blatantly obvious and dishonest, tactic.

You've pretty much encapsulated this issue very well. Bears repeating.

45 posted on 05/21/2009 7:29:31 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: jeffc
...both sides are currently working on their appeals to the Apellate Courts. The losing side will appeal. This will not end with the CSC.

I've heard otherwise. From the standpoint of the state, there is no higher appellate court than the CSC, unless someone can prove a violation of the U.S. Constitution. For all practical purposes, most federal-level courts are extremely reluctant to wade into a state fray such as this. It's the end of the line - both fortunately and unfortunately.

46 posted on 05/21/2009 7:39:28 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: fwdude
...there is no higher appellate court than the CSC, unless someone can prove a violation of the U.S. Constitution. For all practical purposes, most federal-level courts are extremely reluctant to wade into a state fray such as this. It's the end of the line...

If the homos lose, I am certain they will find a way to get it before the 9th Circus.

47 posted on 05/21/2009 7:50:12 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: jeffc
Possibly, but I don't think it's likely.
48 posted on 05/21/2009 7:57:19 PM PDT by fwdude ("...a 'centrist' ... has few principles - and those are negotiable." - Don Feder)
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To: Lancey Howard

I think the vote on the 20th against all the props will decide this issue. The justices will be looking at the fact they will probably get their a**es handed to them by the people if they strike down an initiative that they pre-approved before it went on the ballot. They will uphold the initiative but will let the past marriages stand, IMO.


49 posted on 05/21/2009 8:01:40 PM PDT by calex59
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To: fr_freak

You got that right. The northeastern counties in particular are conservative and on the coast you have Del Norte county as conservative as they get.


50 posted on 05/21/2009 8:04:51 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Its more than that, moonbeam specifically took it to the supremes for their review to try and have it removed from the ballot and failed.


51 posted on 05/21/2009 9:59:38 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The people of Kalifornia have spoken clearly on this subject many times!

If they want equal rights, that’s fine! They cannot be married because that is a holy ceremony reserved for one man and one woman only!


52 posted on 05/21/2009 10:04:26 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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UPDATE:

The ruling will be announced next Tuesdsay, May 26, 10am PDT.

Prop. 8 ruling coming Tuesday

53 posted on 05/22/2009 11:56:29 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado; DEPORT Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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