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Hispanic voters say immigration's No. 1
New York Daily News ^ | 5/21/2009 | Albor Ruiz

Posted on 05/21/2009 7:55:38 AM PDT by Menehune56

They have enough problems already, but a poll released Monday is sure to give anti-immigration extremists and Republican leaders plenty more to fret about.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; hispanic; illegalaliens; immigration; shamnesty
He seems to be saying Republicans and ''anti-immigration extremists'' need to do whatever they can to out-pander the statists if they want to be elected.
1 posted on 05/21/2009 7:55:38 AM PDT by Menehune56
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To: Menehune56

actually they said it was “numero uno”


2 posted on 05/21/2009 7:56:35 AM PDT by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: Menehune56

We’re number one! We’re number one!


3 posted on 05/21/2009 7:57:48 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Menehune56

You shouldn’t fight a battle you can’t win. 80% of hispanics are going to end up in the Democratic camp no matter what the Republicans do.

The Republicans need to focus on groups they can attract: Asians and Indians (not native americans, but people from India.) Their values are much more in line with conervative values and are growing rapidly. Republicans can get 80% of these two groups votes if they work at it.


4 posted on 05/21/2009 8:00:41 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The Era of Reagan is NOW)
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To: Menehune56
Hispanic voters say immigration's No. 1

"Immigration" meaning, amnesty for tens of millions of illegals currently here and their extended families in Mexico (and elsewhere). Most of them are too blind to see that they're creating here precisely what they tried to escape from down there.

5 posted on 05/21/2009 8:01:48 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Menehune56
Actually I love this guy - first the Obama Administration's Homeland (in)Security chief claims that I'm a "homegrown terrorist" now I'm also an "extremist," according to the author of this rag.

Keep it coming libs as I proudly wear my labels.

6 posted on 05/21/2009 8:03:50 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Menehune56; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Re: Hispanic voters say immigration's No. 1

Now only here in the US... Photobucket but elsewhere, too!

7 posted on 05/21/2009 8:04:05 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Menehune56

have they ever listened to the democrats, john and ken on kfi am 640?

they are very anti-immigrant and anti-republican.


8 posted on 05/21/2009 8:05:10 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: Brookhaven

Mexican immigrants are very often Catholic. We need to appeal to their higher spiritual and moral being. We need to continually spotlight the Democrats’ anti-Christian, pro-abortion, anti-marriage, pro-homosexual, pro-tax positions whenever and wherever possible. Spanish pamphlets, tracts, media spots, signs, all of it. We need to challenge their consciences, even if political success is slim.


9 posted on 05/21/2009 8:06:31 AM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Menehune56

Hmmm. How many of the “Hispanics” polled can legally vote?


10 posted on 05/21/2009 8:06:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Menehune56
is sure to give anti-immigration extremists so says Albor Ruiz.

A Hispanic sticking up for LaRaza imagine that?

11 posted on 05/21/2009 8:07:13 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Brookhaven

Actually, this IS a big problem. The ‘Pubbies don’t stand a chance for getting any of the back vote; if they give up the Hispanic vote they could be crippled.
Of course, how much of “giving up the Hispanic vote” is giving up the PRK, which the ‘Pubbies haven’t won in a long time?


12 posted on 05/21/2009 8:08:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Menehune56

I call BS on this poll.

Mexican-Americans don’t want criminals taking their jobs for starvation wages.


13 posted on 05/21/2009 8:08:52 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Brookhaven

Also Eastern European immigrant groups.

The rest of what you posted is dead on.

But with the RNC leadership and GOP leaders in Congress don’t bet on them ‘getting it’ anytime soon.


14 posted on 05/21/2009 8:10:13 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Menehune56
Albor Ruiz is an idiot. The GOP, however stupidly, fully supports shamnesty and will be more than happy to back the Democrats to get it passed.
15 posted on 05/21/2009 8:13:14 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Little Ray

Hmmm. How many of the “Hispanics” polled can legally vote?

All of them. Ask Acorn.


16 posted on 05/21/2009 8:14:34 AM PDT by zek157
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To: Menehune56

Our present immigration policies and illegal immigration tolerance are big reasons why Republicans have to fret. Pandering to the conquistadors will only make things worse, not only for the Republican Party, but for the rest of America. But, if you want to look at the darker side, once 0 and his merry band of Fascist dreamers are through, the immigration problem will be minuscule, compared to the other disasters. Besides, what do the Multiculturalists care about the Republican Party? Why are they offering advise? My guess is that it isn’t to help us. Why does Albor Ruiz call citizens who are concerned about the culture and political balance of this nation extremists? Why does he insult us with demeaning terms like nativism and intolerance? Because he resides in the ignorance of his own politics. Take a look at what is happening to this country right now. The continued flood of Hispanics from Mexico and Central America will only make it worse. They will always vote in large majorities for the Fascist Democrats.


17 posted on 05/21/2009 8:15:04 AM PDT by pallis
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

I’ve got a Mexican-American guy working on some tile at my house right now and he was telling me how hard it is for him to get good work nowadays. He knows first hand why ‘’comprehensive immigration reform’’ is supported by business groups - it’s called wage suppression.


18 posted on 05/21/2009 8:16:56 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Menehune56
I'm sorry but I have to vent my frustration with this BULLSH!T... I wish people would stop using the f*&king word HISPANIC! That is a broad generalization. Say immigrants, or Mexican-Americans, anything else but Hispanic. I'm Puerto Rican so I fall in the category of Hispanic and you know what... I WANT THE BORDER CLOSED AND ILLEGALS SENT HOME! NOW!

Unless they are coming to America to be a valuable part of society... GO HOME! More than anything I consider myself an American, being that I was born in New York. Even if I was born in Puerto Rico that would still make me an American. But every time people say Hispanic's this and Hispanic's that, I feel thrown in with the whole lot by default.

19 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:47 AM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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To: Mind Freed

Thank you for your post.

My neighbor, a Mexican-American, said the same thing before he was killed in an accident by an illegal driving a truck.


20 posted on 05/21/2009 8:21:23 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: polymuser; Brookhaven
Mexican immigrants are very often Catholic. We need to appeal to their higher spiritual and moral being. We need to continually spotlight the Democrats’ anti-Christian, pro-abortion, anti-marriage, pro-homosexual, pro-tax positions whenever and wherever possible.

It is only the Catholic Hispanics that are liberal, the Protestant Hispanics generally vote conservative.

In 2004 the Protestant Hispanics voted 56% Republican and even in this last dismal election they still gave Republicans 48% of their vote. Protestant Hispanics are very pro-life and social conservative.

21 posted on 05/21/2009 8:27:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: zek157

Hispanic voters sure have helped california {sink}.


22 posted on 05/21/2009 8:28:55 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Menehune56
the poll confirmed for the umpteenth time that immigration is a defining issue for the 12 to 13 million Hispanics who are eligible to vote in the U.S.

Let's see! We have 300 million population and we are suppose to give up our principles and rule of law to cowtow to these 12-13 million so we can let illegals in. When pigs fly pal!!

23 posted on 05/21/2009 8:35:22 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: pnh102

You are absolutely right! And the Hispanics will vote for the Dems anyway!!!


24 posted on 05/21/2009 8:38:25 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Mind Freed

When I hear the word Hispanic I never ever think Puerto Rico!Do be so sensitive.


25 posted on 05/21/2009 8:40:46 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

It’s a shame that Mexicans are looked at the way they are. I grew up in a Mexican neighborhood in New York. There was a crack house right across the street from me and all I remember is that the authorities were always checking the Mexican’s making sure they were legal, they never did anything about the crack house. The Mexican’s I grew up around were up everyday at 4 in the morning and off to work, not coming home till around 6 in the evening. The ones I knew were legal and responsible and were grateful for the chances they had. I still have respect for them, and it angers me when I here about Mexican’s or any other race coming here illegally and ruining the image of others who want to be considered American.


26 posted on 05/21/2009 8:44:05 AM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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To: ontap; pnh102
And the Hispanics will vote for the Dems anyway!!!

Whatever gave you that idea?
note the map


27 posted on 05/21/2009 8:51:54 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: ontap; Mind Freed
When I hear the word Hispanic I never ever think Puerto Rico!Do be so sensitive.

No, he is 110% right.

Same old nonsense trying to lump everything together except for that which opposes you, so as to make your view small, bigoted, racist, and intolerant.

The media even lumps Spaniards together in that mix. Were you to call someone from Spain "hispanic" they would consider that an insult. - They are Spanish

You even read today that hispanics discovered America!

28 posted on 05/21/2009 8:56:17 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: ontap; bill1952

You are one person. True there may be others who think the same way you do but not everyone does. I didn’t just write that comment to write it. I wrote it from experience. When I was growing up, and someone would ask me what my background was and I said Puerto Rican, most of them asked me if I had a green card. Mexicans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, etc... They considered all of us Hispanic.


29 posted on 05/21/2009 9:14:29 AM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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To: Menehune56

Ruiz sounds a lot like recently banned troll J.Simmons.


30 posted on 05/21/2009 9:44:48 AM PDT by DangerZone (RINOs rather lose with a liberal candidate than win with a conservative one.)
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To: bill1952
Were you to call someone from Spain "hispanic" they would consider that an insult. - They are Spanish

If they are insulted they should take it up with MR. Webster because like it or not according to him they're Hispanic. I don't wish to offend anyone but I assume when some one says Hispanic he is talking about people from Mexico because most of the time they are in this context, and on this site, and in this case that is a true assumption. hispanic - 4 dictionary results His⋅pan⋅ic   /hɪˈspænɪk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hi-span-ik] Show IPA –adjective 1. Spanish. 2. Latin American: the United States and its Hispanic neighbors. –noun 3. Also, Hispano. Also called Hispanic American, Hispano-American. an American citizen or resident of Spanish or Latin-American descent. Origin: 1575–85; < L hispānicus. See Hispania, -ic Related forms: His⋅pan⋅i⋅cal⋅ly, adverb Dictionary.com Unabridged Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2009. Cite This Source | Link To hispanic His·pan·ic (hĭ-spān'ĭk) adj. 1. Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America. 2. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture. n. 1. A Spanish-speaking person. 2. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent. [Latin Hispānicus, from Hispānia, Spain.] Usage Note: Though often used interchangeably in American English, Hispanic and Latino are not identical terms, and in certain contexts the choice between them can be significant. Hispanic, from the Latin word for "Spain," has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that sometimes have little else in common. Latino—which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano—refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin. Of the two, only Hispanic can be used in referring to Spain and its history and culture; a native of Spain residing in the United States is a Hispanic, not a Latino, and one cannot substitute Latino in the phrase the Hispanic influence on native Mexican cultures without garbling the meaning. In practice, however, this distinction is of little significance when referring to residents of the United States, most of whom are of Latin American origin and can theoretically be called by either word. · A more important distinction concerns the sociopolitical rift that has opened between Latino and Hispanic in American usage. For a certain segment of the Spanish-speaking population, Latino is a term of ethnic pride and Hispanic a label that borders on the offensive. According to this view, Hispanic lacks the authenticity and cultural resonance of Latino, with its Spanish sound and its ability to show the feminine form Latina when used of women. Furthermore, Hispanic—the term used by the U.S. Census Bureau and other government agencies—is said to bear the stamp of an Anglo establishment far removed from the concerns of the Spanish-speaking community. While these views are strongly held by some, they are by no means universal, and the division in usage seems as related to geography as it is to politics, with Latino widely preferred in California and Hispanic the more usual term in Florida and Texas. Even in these regions, however, usage is often mixed, and it is not uncommon to find both terms used by the same writer or speaker. See Usage Note at Chicano. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Cite This Source Hispanic His*pan"ic\, a. [L. Hispanicus.] Of or pertaining to Spain or its language; as, Hispanic words. Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. Cite This Source Hispanic "pertaining to Spain" (especially ancient Spain) 1584, from L. Hispanicus, from Hispania "Iberian Peninsula," from Hispanus "Spaniard" (see Spaniard). Specific application to Sp.-speaking parts of the New World is 1889, Amer.Eng.; esp. applied since c.1972 to Sp.-speaking persons of Latin American descent living in U.S. Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper Cite This Source

31 posted on 05/21/2009 9:48:20 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: bill1952
"The media even lumps Spaniards together in that mix. Were you to call someone from Spain "hispanic" they would consider that an insult. - They are Spanish"

That sounds like my coworker who legally immigrated here back in the late 80s. He gets outright angry if someone calls him Hispanic or Mexican. He insists to only be called American.
32 posted on 05/21/2009 9:52:42 AM PDT by DangerZone (RINOs rather lose with a liberal candidate than win with a conservative one.)
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To: Mind Freed

I suggest that you read my post again. - I was agreeing with you and your point.


33 posted on 05/22/2009 10:40:19 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Menehune56
I think Mexican-American feelings about immigration enforcement are roughly equivalent to libertarian conservative feelings about no-knock drug raids and asset forfeiture. In both cases, stupid, overzealous government employees create the unease, rather than the actual policy behind it. Mexican-Americans don't want hordes of illegals coming across the border, but don't trust the government to know the difference.

Smart conservatives could exploit that...if there are any left.

34 posted on 05/22/2009 10:45:20 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: bill1952

I know you were agreeing with me. I sent that reply to you and the individual that didn’t agree with me. Sorry about the confusion.


35 posted on 05/22/2009 11:12:44 AM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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