Roadblocks and Checkpoints

05/17/2009 | Guildnavigator

[SaraJohnson]

Or the ones who remember we had a constitution... Count me as a big complainer and I don’t drink and drive. I am American and drive.

[microgood]

How are they illegal? If they were illegal every person arrested by a roadside stop would have the case thrown out.

They are a violation of the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. Cops violate people's rights in this country tens of thousands of times a day in this country and get away with it. Cops believe they are above the law, and that laws only apply to "civilians".

If I am not doing anything wrong I have nothing to worry about. Maybe the people who mind should do their drinking and pot smoking at home.

If this is the case, then you won't mind if the police come in and ransack your house once a week to make sure you are not using drugs.

Many people have died protecting our freedoms and it is our duty to preserve them for future generations. Checkpoints belong in Communist China and the old Soviet Union, and I never thought I would see the day they would happen here. I guess the Soviets won the cold war after all.

[Hulka]

Actually, the Border Patrol Agents do care and are working harder than you realize to stop, catch, deport/jail illegals/drug smugglers and while doing so they face a very dangerous environment, from the terrain to the MEXICAN ARMY, the Agents are undeterred in their efforts.

It is better to direct your comment to the DHS “leadership” and The One, not the Agent in the field when it comes to immigration policy.

[dalereed]

“These checkpoints are illegal and the ones performing them need to be arrested and incarcerated because they are breaking the law. They are also traitors.”

No way, they have them all the time in N. County San Diego to catch unlicenced and uninsured drivers and they catch a lot.

They should have them every day in multiple locations and also check for citizenship by having border patrol at every checkpoint!!

[microgood]

They should have them every day in multiple locations and also check for citizenship by having border patrol at every checkpoint!!

I thought we took care of all you guys in WWII. I guess some of you slipped through the cracks. Time for another purging.

[darkwing104]

The “checkpoint” was on Rt.91 westbound coming from Rt.1 They were just setting up the various cones to direct westbound traffic into an initial inspection area. There was also a secondary inspection area on Pudding Lane that they could divert you into if they found anything interesting.

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York Maine. My Sympathies. Anyway, most daytime checkpoints are looking for expired plates or inspections tags. However Maine has joined the effort to curb international smuggling of Drugs, Hazardous waste and Illegal Aliens. One such operation operates out of York Maine.

[TWfromTEXAS]

If you are not doing anything wrong why worry?

The words of a slave, or someone about to become one.

[dalereed]

I was being kind, I really think there should be open season on illegsals and a bounty for dead ones!

[M-cubed]

If you are not doing anything wrong why worry? <<

Great answer!....Ive signed u up to have your house searched 3 days a week...cavity searches and bedroom searches of your entire family as well and any and all associates u may have...
and Don't sweat it... we know u don't do anything wrong...just a routine procedure...

and Thanks for your cooperation...Your making a safer and greater Amerika!

[microgood]

I was being kind, I really think there should be open season on illegsals and a bounty for dead ones!

I agree the illegals are a huge problem. But they need to deal with it without trashing the Constitution. I refuse to give up my rights because the government is incompetent. Otherwise, what the he$$ are we defending anyway?

[mysterio]

I refuse to give up my rights because the government is incompetent.

Well said.

[mad_as_he$$]

Spoken like a true lib.

[M-cubed]

Oh...and PS.....we'll be watching your beer purchases and consumption for you! (its a free service we provide).....We need more model citizens just like you...

Thanks again for your support...

signed: USGCHGP* *(US Government Counsel of Honest and Good People)

[dalereed]

There’s nothing illegal about roadblocks, even the ACLU can’t stop them.

We need more not less!

Every one they have here that usually last 4 or 5 hours they catch 40-50 no license drivers and impound their cars and take them off the road.

even then they are inneffective since they only stop about 1 out of every 5 cars that pass it since they only have so many stations for checking drivers and when those are full every one just passes theough.

[Old Professer]

There’s a story where a small society looks forward to a long trip from whence none return; one day a huge event occurs as one of the travelers returns with startling news — this is not a pleasant place to visit at all; the reader learns that the society is made up of beef cows and the destination of this scheduled trip is the slaughter house.

I can’t relocate it and my poor memory won’t capture the author’s name or story title amongst all the clutter clogging up my saturated brain cells.

Does anyone else remember this scenario?

[microgood]

There’s nothing illegal about roadblocks, even the ACLU can’t stop them.

They are totally illegal, but we do live in the post-freedom era of America, so it is not surprising. Luckily I live in a state where they are illegal, and I would not live in one where they aren't.

[Boston Blackie]

If you are not doing anything wrong why worry?

King George III couldn't have said it better.

[John D]

They are a violation of the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution.

Apparently it is not, or every one of these cases would be thrown out. You may think you are a Supreme Court Justice, but I doubt it. They have the final say on what is Constitutional and what is not, not you or me.

you won't mind if the police come in and ransack your house once a week to make sure you are not using drugs

.If they have a warrant, but any person with an ounce of sense would know they would never be able to do this once a week.

Many people have died protecting our freedoms and it is our duty to preserve them for future generations.

I may not have died, but I did spend four years protecting our freedoms. One freedom I cherish is being able to live in a safe city. Law enforcement is needed to keep it safe. If a roadblock gets drunk drivers or illegal drivers or other criminals off the streets and makes it a safer place it is all right by me.

[kaylar]

Yes, I think I do...How I remember it, one of the sentient cattle escaped from the slaughterhouse semi flayed, after being stunned rather than killed. He became a sort of prophet to the cattle as he traveled about warning them not to go. The story was in third person/past tense IIRC, and I believe it was published in a paperback anthology called “Eco-Fiction” , ed. John Stadler. I may be wrong about what book it’s in though as the table of contents did not ring any bells.

[kaylar]

Actually, maybe I DO recognize the title...I said the escaped bovine became a prophet to the other cattle, and there’s a story listed on the table of contents called “A Mother’s Tale”. The mother cow is telling her calf of the time the prophet came and warned the others what would happen if they went-the cow described the bull prophet as looking like he was wearing a cape, because the skin around his shoulders had been flayed. I know I read this book to death when I was in Jr High, and I distinctly remembered “The Supremacy of Uruguay” from it. I am describing the 1971 edition-it was republished, and the line up may have changed for other editions.