Posted on 05/17/2009 5:16:22 AM PDT by tlb
Seymour Hersh says that Dick Cheney headed a secret assassination wing and the head of the wing has just been named as the new commander in Afghanistan.
Hersh said that there is a special unit called the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) that does high-value targeting of men that are known to be involved in anti-American activities, or are believed to be planning such activities.
According to Hersh, the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) was headed by former US vice president Dick Cheney and the former head of JSOC, Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal who has just been named the new commander in charge of the war in Afghanistan.
Most of what General McChrystal has done over a 33-year career remains classified, including service between 2003 and 2008 as commander of the Joint Special Operations Command, an elite unit so clandestine that the Pentagon for years refused to acknowledge its existence.
On July 22, 2006, Human Rights Watch issued a report titled "No blood, no foul" about American torture practices at three facilities in Iraq. One of them was Camp Nama, which was operated by the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), under the direction of then Major General Stanley McChrystal.
McChrystal was officially based at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, but he was a frequent visitor to Camp Nama and other Special Forces bases in Iraq and Afghanistan where forces under his command were based.
The decision by Obama's administration to appoint General McChrystal as the new commander in charge of the war in Afghanistan and retaining the military commission for the US war-on-terror detainees held in the Guantanamo Bay prison are the latest examples of the new US administration walking in Bush's foot steps with regards to torture and denial of habeas corpus.
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I see leftist’s heads exploding with rage...
Cool, he’s a Ninja, too!
bttt cool
Darth Cheney to Han Sobama, “You have chosen well, my son.”
According to Michael Yon, one of the reasons the US has succeeded in Iraq is the ability to find and kill those responsible for causing trouble.
So, Hersh finally gets one right.
The Special Operators will get their chance again in A’stan.
“Most of what General McChrystal has done over a 33-year career remains classified...”
Fine.
How come we never hear:
Most of what Barak Obama has done in his life remains classified
One can only wonder when the JSOC will get to Mr. Hersh.
From DU
Who is Stanley McChrystal? What is TF 6-26? Why did Obama pick him for Afghanistan? Horrifying!!!
Woah ! You mean this "Jeff" guy saw a commanding general visit a unit under his command ?
Pretty awesome info there "Jeff" . /s
Spec Ops BUMP!
Mr. Hersh has now besmudged the integrity of all the men and women who make up the U.S. Military’s special operations groups. What a dirt bag. Hope he has the presence of mind to keep his scummy self away from places like MacDill AFB, Coronado Island, Ft. Benning, etc.
Try and mention the SAS in a UK paper and see what happens...
LOL! Perfect.
In Viet Nam the Phoenix program used local Provincial Reconnaisance Units to track down and kill the local Viet Cong infrastructure. Books were kept on the numbers and location of such people. Their work was so successful that in one province of South Viet Nam with which I am familiar there was simply no indigenous Viet Cong leadership left by 1972. I would imagine the same sort of thing was employed in Iraq, and is employed in Afghanistan. In the guerrilla/terrorist war no civilian opponent is off limits. Given the opportunity, he will kill you so you must kill him first.
This is the same Seymour Hersh who wrote a book supporting the Soviet propaganda that the Korean airline they shot down was on a spy mission. Gen McChrystal never engaged in assassination, EVER. If the terrorists he was trying capture fought back they were killed in a firefight with special ops teams. This isn’t just a disgusting attack on McChrystal but on all the Seals and other special ops teams he commanded.
Certainly Cheney and McCrystal would have gotten him out of the way first.
Or, maybe not ~ if Sy were definitely mentally ill or something.
Could this be a case of a Leftwingtard's "Head Exploding"?
If the JSOC actually exists and it actually is tasked with assassinating “high value” targets and it actually killed people I would like to know who they were.
It does not make sense that this kind of organization would risk the public relations nightmare to the US that would accrue if it could be proved this group was assassinating low level anti US operatives.
In any case, we already are employing military snipers to kill terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is no secret. It is being done openly and is considered a legitimate military activity.
So, Mr. Hersh, just who are these “high level” targets that have been assassinated? If you can’t name names your story is as worthless as you are.
My guess is either Mitch Rapp or Dick Marcinko.
If you add Sy Hersh to the Pelosi, Reid, Bin Laden and two bullets joke, the punch line would be: Pelosi, still shot twice, Reid and Bin Laden, still strangled; no trace ever found of Hersh.
JSOC does exist, and has existed since 1980 in one form or another. It got a big boost when the 1986 Goldwater-Nichols act provided that Special Operations got their own budget, and various units no longer had to rely on their parent services for funding.
To say that many of it's operations are classified would be the same as saying that the sun rises in the East, yet the organisation itself is well known.
Hersh's claims have been debunked. JSOC is accountable to both the SEC DEF and Congress. If any of the nonsense was going on, you can bet the farm that the more liberal members of congress would have long ago publically blown the whistle on JSOC actions.
This is good news but I guess ‘ll never understand why any grown up would be shocked to learn that a professional soldier knows how to kill and can be relied upon to kill the enemy.
He is right about this. What do you think the Seals, Australian SF and others have been doing? Also..did you read “Sole Survivor”. They were a assination team going after a high level Taliban. This is no real secret. The drones in Pakistan are on the same mission. Behead the enemy.
He's ANOTHER Leftist thug from Chicago.
Will we never be free of the assholes from Chicago?
This bastard is typical of the type of Leftist Jew that America has in disproportionate numbers....
I would LOVE to trade them for some of the righteous Jews in Israel, who are unafraid of recognizing evil and FIGHTING it to the death...
“I see leftist’s heads exploding with rage...”
Forget the popcorn...let’s get the margarita machine cranked up! This is gonna be fun....LOL!!
Seymour Hersh and Human Rights Watch, two fonts of truth and integrity /sarc. No one denies the existance of JSOC, although they certainly do not advertise their activities. What they do is kill the enemies of the United States. Experience has shown that when these people cease to be, they are incapable of killing American soldiers or attacking the U.S.
They are very good at their assigned mission, which no doubt upsets Mr. Hersh to no end. Slime like him will do everything in their power to help destroy America.
Wow. Maybe you would have preferred that they stayed long enough for the final solution.
It must be true. Why, it is even on television every Sunday night at 9PM, e.g., “The Unit”.
Unfortunately, I think last Sunday night’s show was its last.
How they don’t find out that he was the mastermind behind CTU. (24 speak)
Are you an Alinsky follower? IF you recall it was US that stopped the 'final solution'. I know because my nobody uncle landed on the beaches of Normandy and had his brains exposed from shrapnel. He got a steel plate to keep his brains in and went on to the Battle of the Bulge. Seems to me there is NO appreciation for what Americans have done in blood and treasury for stopping lunatics like Hitler. And for you to read into words things NOT said when the subject here is a worm who despises US tears US down at every opportune moment really calls into question your accusation.
Operation Phoenix Iraq style.
William Colby must be smiling.
eff Hersh...goes without saying
Soldiers killing the enemy. How quaint! How many thousands of years has this been going on?
Excuse me. You are the one who thinks that having Lithuanian Jewish ancestry is relevant. Lithuanian Jews were largely Orthodox. Of the few who survived the Holocaust, many of their descendants live in Israel and others live in the U.S. None are in Lithuania. I am not an Alinsky follower, but I call out ugly comments when I see them.
Your link has been scrubbed clean.
The link works for me. Do you mean something else?
The link takes you to answer #8, but there’s only the title line of “Really”, and the message box is empty. Or is that the whole message?
Riverat didn’t say that but he like me laments that a disproportionate number of Obama water carriers in the media are very liberal Jews....some from generations of it.
It gets old....America is best thing to happen to Jews since Joshua entered Canaan.
So why are so many wishing to destroy it?
Hersh’s folks almost get butchered by Nazis and now here he is in the land of freedom trying to kill our culture and way of life.
Jewish conservatives are as pissed about it as this goy is I’ll wager...would that there were more of them.
If white southern Protestants like me acted this way I’d be ashamed of my own kind and angry at them too....but they don’t thankfully.
underneath it all I think folks like Hersh are just bigoted towards Christian culture of what they percieve as that...I’ve heard that myself from Jews I know.
If a Christian acts that way towards Jews then they are rightly scorned, hence the shoe can damn well fit on the other foot too..
This forum is probably the strongest pro-Israel anti-antiSemitism forum on the internet.
thanks
Ah NO you are NOT excused. The poster said far more than place of origin and or ethnicity. Somehow what old Seymour has made his life's work undermining US seems to have escaped your reading skills. Quite frankly, until I read your post it did not register in MY mind the words that you only saw fit to highlight. IF the ungodly communist shoes fit then they fit. Now why the .ell are we in Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place? Here I thought it was to stop the uncivilized barbarians from terrorizing the rest of the world. And then comes old Seymour doing what he does best accusing US and ignoring the purpose of stopping terrorists.
IF you are not with US you are against US, and our military volunteer to give their life's blood so Seymour can run around to and fro and write accusations against US. Seems to me given that it was US that provided old Seymour a 'place of safety' he might be a little bit thankful, but NO he is NOT.
And it is very Alinsky like to then accuse someone of their words meaning what you choose them to mean.
This is generally true and is something we can all be proud of. Recently, I have noticed a rise in objectionable anti-Jewish comments. The fact that someone descends from Lithuanian Jewish ancestors doesn't seem relevant to the current discussion.
The Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) is a component command of the United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) and is charged to study special operations requirements and techniques to ensure interoperability and equipment standardization, plan and conduct special operations exercises and training, and develop Joint Special Operations Tactics. It was established on December 15, 1980, in the aftermath of the failure of Operation Eagle Claw, the unsuccessful attempt to rescue the 53 hostages from the American embassy in Tehran, Iran.[1] It is located at Pope Air Force Base and Fort Bragg in North Carolina, USA.
What's evil about coordinating the efforts of various special forces outfits? I think somebody wanted that job and is now trying to make the new guy's previous assignment seem somehow evil, and is using Sy's well-known paranoia and inability to separate out BS to their own benefit.
Shows what happens when you don't take your lithium.
Most of us here love Israel, admire Mark Levin, support Eric Cantor, and cheer David Zucker when he lets loose on the Islamofascists and the Commie liberals. But we do get a little frustrated when someone like Hersh trashes America, particularly considering all that America has done for Jews worldwide.
What wardaddy said.
I don’t know how many folks know this by Hersch penned “A Dark Side of Camelot” which revealed the truth (or I suppose Hersch’s version of the truth) under the rock that was “Camelot”.
I don’t know how much of the stuff in that books is 100% true, but it mostly made common sense, and is pretty much at odds the the liberal narrative that the kennedy’s were somehow gods.
Quite an entertaining read.
No, you dumb ass - I would have thought the sonuvabitch would have been more grateful to the country that gave them sanctuary and helped MIGHTILY to end the Nazi reign of terror.
But he - like far too many Leftist Jews in this country, don't recognize their exposure in a world devoid of America as a super power.. They must be self loathing Jews working toward their own extermination..
Perhaps YOU, idiot that you appear - believe the Jews would be better off in the hands of the Islamists?
The point is, if high value targets are dying—let alone being assassinated—don’t you think we’d know who they are? By definition high value means high profile. There would be media stories reporting these deaths.
I do not include anyone associated with the WOT in my comment above. They are being taken care of in the normal course of fighting the war.
The people Hersh is claiming to talk about are singularly political targets. They would be people like Putin and Chavez—or the Iranian, Syrian and Korean idiots. To my knowledge none of these bad boys have been taken out.
Hersh is a has been seeking relevancy. That he works for the NY Slime says all one needs to know about him and his respect for factual reporting.
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