Posted on 05/14/2009 9:39:30 AM PDT by truthnomatterwhat
Any parent would be appaled to learn their child was taken out of the classroom for a mandatory mental health evaluation without their knowledge or consent. But such is the case in Florida where more than 3 out or every 1000 children, on average will be involuntarily committed for psychiatric examination.
3,365 separate involuntary commitments were performed, in 2007 directly from school grounds. Over 3000 separate incidences of children being escorted, mandatory, from school to a psychiatric receiving facility and held in a secured ward, separate from their parents, and without their parents consent in one year.
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3000 Florida children held without their parents consent for one year on psychiatric grounds? Did I read that right? Are the judges getting kickbacks from the institutions?
It looks as if psychiatrists are joining the abortionists as politically correct for kids.
So, the school can’t give your kid an aspirin for a headache, but they can send her to an abortion clinic. Or, it appears, a psychiatrist.
The bottom line is that everything now belongs to The State, including children.
Contracts? BAh! Gone, with the wave of the presidents hand.
States rights? Ha! States will take the money and now Washington OWNS them—or else.
GUARANTEED BONDS? Only in “good times” and then the president mitigates those circumstances too.
We live in a fascist state people....sorry.
I think I read that wrong. I though it was saying the kids were “being held in a secure facility separate from their parents for one year.” Instead it is saying that 3000 kids are being tested in a year.
So what is with the “secure facility separate from their parents” language. How many if any of these kids are actually being “Held” for longer than an hour or two test?
I think 3000 is excessive. But in the example given of the kid who stomped on an administrator’s foot, I think that kid probably does need to be evaluated. Psychological help may indeed be better than expelling the kids from school.
As long as they aren’t giving medicines without the parents consent or holding the kids longer than an hour or two during school hours, then they just need to bring a little more balance to the program.
There are 10,200 public, private and charter schools in Florida. 3000 evaluations suddenly doesn’t seem that bad.
Meanwhile, diagonally across the country (Washington state) it’s virtually impossible to get somebody suffering from obvious psychosis into the hospital till they are on the verge of suicide.
Read my post 6. 10200 schools, 3000 evalutions a year.
Maybe they are doing the tests after an occasion of garden variety misbehavior so that they don’t get accused of “abusing the mentally ill.” I would think that if, say, the foot stomper isn’t found to be clearly crazy, he would be subject to a conventional punishment.
That could be. Although surely they could claim they didn't realize the kid was mentally ill. I'm thinking 3000 tests in 10,200 schools isn't that bad. That's 1 kid out of every 3 schools with the schools having multiple grade levels. You know there are more mentally and emotionally deficient kids than that.
If "the schools" are holding my kids for more than 30 seconds that doesn't involve education (Reading, writing, Arithmetic) and I am not aware of it, then it is a problem. IF my child has a psychological or disciplinary problem it's MY JOB to fix it, not the state's. I'll do the evaluation and tell them what is up.
But naturally, the government schools do a lot of this and their indoctrinations on the sly and you don't find out about it until after the fact.
we continue to get calls from distraught parents who have just found out their child was removed from school and placed in a psychiatric ward.... For instance, an eight year old boy who stomped on an administrator's foot; an eleven year old who had a fist fight with his cousin in the playground; a straight "A" student who skipped class and got subject to a mental health questionnaire that, when evaluated, deemed she was a potential risk to herself.
I agree with your sentiments but if only 1 kid is selected for evaluation each year out of 3 schools and multiple grade levels. How likely is that to be your kid? There is no way it would be mine.
I could be wrong, but I bet you that in most of these cases, the schools have contacted the parents before. The kids are consistent trouble makers, or violent and therefore the schools are progressing to psychological evaluations.
I agree the examples given are frightening. But it doesn’t ring true. There are not enough kids being sent for evaluations for this to truely be discipline for routine behaviors.
They aren’t sending every kid who skipped school to these evaluations. There had to have been something else about that straight “A” student that triggered the school to request an evaluation.
There might be some schools that are abusing this. If you could get a list of the evaluations per school and see what school requested the most evaluations, that school probably is abusing it.
My godson needed this type intervention back when he was in elementary school. If he had had it he might not be an unemployed highschool drop out at age 22 with serious psychological problems. His mother has finally realized he has problems not “just a few little quirks” as she always called them in the past. Moving beyond suicide threats to a real attempt can be an eye opener.
You’re probably right.
My daughter was told by our then physician, after a recommendation by the school, that she had “a touch of ADD” and ritalin was prescribed. I said over my dead body to my wife, the school etc. That was in Middle school. She’s in college now and doing fine.
If I catch a bureaucrats seizing a child, I will kill them on the spot. There is no longer any State order of justice, so now vigilantism is necessary.
One of the many reasons I home schooled my children.
Here is another reason for me not to move. I wouldn’t put Sassy in a school in FL anyway but I don’t like the sound of this at all.
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