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Gun-Control Advocate: Napolitano Report on ‘Rightwing Extremists’ Makes Case for Gun Ban
CNSNews.com ^ | May 14, 2009 | Edwin Mora

Posted on 05/14/2009 3:34:48 AM PDT by Man50D

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101 posted on 05/14/2009 3:35:23 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
“The actual fee for buying the weapon is $200.00. However, only weapons manufactured prior to May 1988 are legal to own...”

Hi bitter, Just one correction to your statement...the actually “cut off” date was May 1986 —not May 1988. Thus in the full auto world there are “Pre May ‘86” firearms, and “Post May ‘86” “Dealer Samples” which are restricted to FFL’s with Special Occupational Tax (SOT) classifications.

There are also many full auto, SBR's, AOW's, suppressors, etc that are completely transferable to qualified individuals. You are correct about the $200 tax...that's for a BATFE tax stamp (basically an excise tax), that is affixed to the Form 4 for civilian transferable machine guns or Short Barreled Rifles (SBRs), going to private individuals. If you want what is classified as an “Any Other Weapon” (AOW), the tax stamp is only $5.

Regardless, unless you're an FFL/SOT that can trade in NFA weapons, an individual has to find what they want to buy, pay the dealer for it, then fill out the appropriate BATFE Form 4 application and submit the form(s) along with fingerprint cards, Passport-grade photos, and have a sign-off on the application by the “Chief Law Enforcement Officer” (CLEO), of your legal jurisidiction (Sheriff, Chief of Police, etc), that confirms you are not a threat to society with a full auto weapon. You can also purchase full auto firearms (or suppressor), via a corporation or a revocable living trust.

Sorry if this is a long explanation but I know that for many “gun people” buying a full auto firearm or a suppressor remains a great mystery. However, with a honest and competent FFL Dealer to work with, it's less a mystery than it is a bureaucratic paper chase (not to mention an expense hobby).

One final note...there are somewhere over 1.5 Million items listed in the BATFE's "National Firearms Act Transaction Registry". However, at any given time there might only be about 500 - 1,000 of these items up for sale in the U.S. ...hope that helps...

102 posted on 05/14/2009 5:03:27 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: Man50D
The current buying splurge of guns and ammo has the government on all levels very worried. And they would be if McCain had won.

The State doesn't like the fact that the citizens are arming up at an unprecedented rate. This will lead to one of two actions.

1. Nothing. No moves on gun control and let things die down.
2. The more likely case, the State moves to ban or severely limit firearms. Giving the value of “doing something” by those who run the State, this is the more likely option, and soon.

Expect something in the next month or two.

And I hope I am wrong.

103 posted on 05/14/2009 5:50:08 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Towed_Jumper
“..the actually “cut off” date was May 1986 —not May 1988.”
You are correct. I dis remembered the date. Now, which form do I need for stinger missiles and law rockets? No home defense kit can be complete without these items.
104 posted on 05/14/2009 6:08:48 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: Man50D

So “rightwing extremists”can’t use other types of guns? How does this report on “rightwing extremists” justify banning just so called assault weapons?
The gun haters will use anything to push their agenda of banning the right to bear arms.
Today they still want to ban so called assault weapons. What then, sporting guns? And then them collectable guns.
Oh let us not forget them sporting and target guns.
And we can’t forget them Saturday night specials. Better known as poor people guns.


105 posted on 05/14/2009 7:43:18 PM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
Now, which form do I need for stinger missiles and law rockets?

You need dual form 4s from a dealer licensed to deal in destructive devices with a type 10 FFL ;)...LAWs are easy to get.....Stingers....a little harder ;)

Make your own by incorporating and making them yourself....good luck!!

106 posted on 05/14/2009 8:45:42 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: HotLead61
Once the communists gain power, their enemies are always internal.

Boy, that sure would make a good tagline!!

$25.00 and it's yours. Fast online delivery!
Send payment to NRA, GOA or JPFO.

107 posted on 05/15/2009 3:57:34 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (F'ah K'Obama! That's Kenyan for 'Obama's a communist! GIMME MY CHICKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Well then, well, well, I...I....I'll just - just - just take it anyway...that's..that's justwhatI'lldo!!

[Spoken in true Ransom Stoddard lingo from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"]

Can I pay by doing a Stoddard impersonation? I also can do a mean Liberty Valance...

Listen to me, you sodbusters, you hardrock farmers! I aim to be the delegate from south of the Picketwire!!
108 posted on 05/15/2009 6:20:23 AM PDT by HotLead61 (Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
...there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of fully automatic machine guns in private collectors hands...

I really wish the ninnies would realize this. Half of them would curl up and drown in their own urine.

109 posted on 05/15/2009 8:28:04 AM PDT by gundog
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And not one of them has been used to commit a crime.
Let us not forget you can legally own cannons and other stuff.


110 posted on 05/15/2009 8:31:38 PM PDT by DMG2FUN
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