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Pope says Bethlehem wall "can be taken down"
Yahoo ^ | 5/14/09 | Philip Pullella & Mustafa Abu Ganeyeh

Posted on 05/13/2009 8:40:35 PM PDT by Libloather

Pope says Bethlehem wall "can be taken down"
Reuters - Thursday, May 14
By Philip Pullella and Mustafa Abu Ganeyeh

BETHLEHEM, West Bank - Pope Benedict on Wednesday said the fortified Israeli wall dividing Bethlehem from Jerusalem could be taken down, if Israel and the Palestinians could remove the walls around their hearts.

On a visit to the town where Christians believe the son of God was born, he said he had seen "overshadowing much of Bethlehem, the wall that intrudes into your territories, separating neighbours and dividing families."

"Although walls can be easily built, we all know that they do not last forever," the pope said. "They can be taken down."

"First, though, it is necessary to remove the walls that we build around our hearts," he added at the end of a day spent in Jesus's birthplace in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

"My earnest wish for you, the people of Palestine, is that this will happen soon," he said, before returning to Jerusalem and continuing a week-long tour of the Holy Land.

In a speech at a refugee camp school in the wall's shadow, he called it a towering symbol of deadlock in the struggle for peace and a "stark reminder of the stalemate that relations between Palestinians and Israelis seemed to have reached."

"How earnestly we pray for an end to the hostilities that have caused this wall to be built," Benedict said.

The wall did not exist when his predecessor John Paul came in 2000. Israel began raising its barrier of fences and concrete through and around the West Bank in 2002, in what it said was a temporary measure to stop deadly Palestinian bombings.

Palestinians, backed by the World Court, say it is an illegal construction which steals and divides their land.

(Excerpt) Read more at asia.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bethlehem; cult; israel; pope; wall
Wow. Can a pope be impeached?
1 posted on 05/13/2009 8:40:36 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

You did read more than the title...right?


2 posted on 05/13/2009 8:43:55 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Libloather

If the Pope wants to take down the wall, then let him also live there - without the Swiss Guard.


3 posted on 05/13/2009 8:43:59 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Precisely! An earlier thread today quoted a rabbi who suggested that the Pope cede half of Rome to the Palestinians.


4 posted on 05/13/2009 8:47:15 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: icwhatudo
You did read more than the title...right?

Yep. Can a pope be impeached?

5 posted on 05/13/2009 8:47:19 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler)
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To: Libloather
Can a pope be impeached?

I don't think so. Although historically a good many of them have been murdered, and quite a number have been removed from office by kings, emperors or mobs.

6 posted on 05/13/2009 8:48:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Libloather
"First, though, it is necessary to remove the walls that we build around our hearts," he added at the end of a day spent in Jesus's birthplace in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

The Pope understands Islam. If Islam WAS a religion of Peace and they had love in their hearts, then they could all live in peace. He isn't saying tear down this wall now or that it is the job of the Jews to make peace happen.

7 posted on 05/13/2009 8:51:27 PM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: Libloather
Palestinians, backed by the World Court, say it is an illegal construction which steals and divides their land.

To the Palestinians, a fence placed anywhere west of the Jordan divides their land as they do not recognize the existence of a State of Israel.

8 posted on 05/13/2009 8:55:14 PM PDT by Procyon (To the global warming fanatics the problem is too many people and the solution is genocide.)
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To: Libloather
Reagan dreamed of a day the world could be free of nuclear weapons. I don't remember questions of impeachment about that. Hmmm, maybe expressing a hope that something may possibly happen IF certain other things happen is a little different than simply saying "do it now".

Pope Benedict on Wednesday said the fortified Israeli wall could be taken down, if ....

"First, though, it is necessary to" .....

Sounds a lot different from what the title alone and some peoples comments imply.

9 posted on 05/13/2009 9:02:28 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Libloather

No offense, but it’s very easy to live in a self-contained state, heavily guarded with tons of personal security, lots of money, wanting nothing, apparently not bound by a vow of poverty,

to jet in to a foreign land, and start pontificating hyperboles and snappy one-liners about the walls around peoples’ hearts. A gross oversimplification that he doesn’t personally have to deal with at all. As he jets back out to the safety and security of the Vatican.


10 posted on 05/13/2009 9:06:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: icwhatudo

That’s because Reagan talked the talk AND walked the walk. The guy was anti-communist since he switched to Republican, and his long-term personal goal was to see communism and the Soviet Union fall. And he made it happen along with his buddy Maggie Thatcher.

The current Pope talks the talk, but show me what he’s done getting his own hands dirty and fixing the problem he’s preaching about. Nada. Just words. He comes off hypocritical and condescending, where Reagan actually fought against communism and the ideas of communism since the early 60s and at every office he was elected to.


11 posted on 05/13/2009 9:10:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Libloather
"My earnest wish for you, the people of Palestine, is that this will happen soon," he said, before returning to Jerusalem and continuing a week-long tour of the Holy Land.

The people of Palestine? Was he referring to the Palestinians? The ones responsible for creating the problems in Israel in the first place?

12 posted on 05/13/2009 9:16:10 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Libloather
Pope Benedict on Wednesday said the fortified Israeli wall dividing Bethlehem from Jerusalem could be taken down, if Israel and the Palestinians could remove the walls around their hearts.

Muslims have no hearts, unless they renounce evil and embrace Jesus Christ.

I'd love to see the Pope endure suicide bombers. He lives as pampered as any Roman Emperor. There are no terrorists in the Vatican.

Benedict started out so well by speaking the truth about Islam conquering by the sword 4 years ago. Then the Muzzies went hog wild. Unfortunately instead of reiterating that truth, he has been apologizing to the Satanic hoard ever since. Why? Does he not realize that within 50 years Europe will be majority Muslim? why does he not take on Islam and call European Christians to task for not having enough children to thwart the Muslim infestation of the West?

13 posted on 05/13/2009 9:18:29 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: SoldierDad

Nobody wants them. Let the rest of the ME give them a home.


14 posted on 05/13/2009 9:19:29 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Libloather

The world needs Benedict to view Islam the same way as John Paul II viewed Communism—as an existential threat to the free world.


15 posted on 05/13/2009 9:20:40 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Libloather

The pope can go straight to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 05/13/2009 9:21:31 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: eyedigress

Especially since they are not from Israel in the first place.


17 posted on 05/13/2009 9:23:21 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Procyon

“Palestinians, backed by the World Court, say it is an illegal construction which steals and divides their land.”

Exterminate the palestinians!


18 posted on 05/13/2009 9:23:28 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Libloather

No, but G-d can remove his hand from him. I hope this does not happen, and that G-d keep his eyes open.


19 posted on 05/13/2009 9:44:01 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: FreepShop1
There are no terrorists in the Vatican.

Oh, really?

20 posted on 05/13/2009 9:49:45 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Libloather

**Can a Poe be impeached?**

A Pope is selected through a discernment process in the College of Cardinals. (Usually from among their own ranks, but not always.) Monks and priests have been selected as Popes.

A Pope serves his entire lifetime.

Do you remember anything about the death of John Paul II and the selection of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as the new Pope?


21 posted on 05/13/2009 9:50:21 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Libloather

22 posted on 05/13/2009 10:06:19 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: B Knotts

Are you really going to compare an assassin with a single target, to all the terror attacks Israel has had to endure for decades?


23 posted on 05/13/2009 10:07:27 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

I’m just sayin’...there are terror threats against the Vatican. It’s one of the Islamists’ dream targets.


24 posted on 05/13/2009 10:09:46 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: B Knotts

But it barely any comparison to the living hell the Palestinian death-culters have made for the Israelis.


25 posted on 05/13/2009 10:12:02 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Libloather
The Muslims are slowly expelling the Christians from Bethlehem and the Pope is playing lets invent a reality.
I understand that this is very Jesus like and all, but I live in the real world where the Romans were pagan occupiers ethnically cleansing Jews and the Muslims wish to kill us.
26 posted on 05/13/2009 11:34:16 PM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: Libloather

No!

he has to die or abdicate, not all popes have died of natural causes though, this one is in his 80's
27 posted on 05/14/2009 12:00:05 AM PDT by mtnjimmi (“When you choose the lesser of two evils, always remember that it is still an evil.” Max Lerner)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Can you say Photoshopped?


28 posted on 05/14/2009 12:21:02 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

Umm, no. It wasn’t Photoshopped.

The photograph is from the Pope’s visit to Jordan, about 3 or 4 days ago. You could probably find the video report of the same, if you looked for it.


29 posted on 05/14/2009 12:33:29 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Pyro7480
I know Photoshop pretty well, use it for my livelihood, and that image is not manipulated.

It's Pope Benedict wearing a keffiyeh. At least he didn't wear it as a headdress like Yassir Arafat.

30 posted on 05/14/2009 3:43:46 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Pyro7480

The scarf was given to Papa as a gift during his welcoming reception by the Kingdom of Jordan. It symbolizes Arabic culture and would be similar to an American giving him a baseball cap when he came to America. Timothy McVeigh wore a baseball cap and therefore some would be pleased to insinuate that those who wear such might be a terrorist.

If the Israeli gifted him with a star of David or menorah, some would use the photo to imply that he might be a crypto Jew.


31 posted on 05/14/2009 6:26:10 AM PDT by HeavensGate27
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To: HeavensGate27; RegulatorCountry; MyTwoCopperCoins

Ah ok. I thought someone was lame enough to substitute the Pope’s stole for the scarf.


32 posted on 05/14/2009 7:24:08 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

You can identify most Photoshopped pictures, simply by tilting your laptop’s screen or any LCD monitor, whereby the aberrations will be visible wherever edits have been made.


33 posted on 05/14/2009 7:31:48 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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