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It's not the glass ceiling that holds women back at work, Harriet. It's being no good at their job
Dail Mail ^ | 13th May 2009 | PENNY VINCENZI

Posted on 05/13/2009 4:51:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway

From a best-selling novelist, a heartfelt and deeply provocative message for the Cabinet's equality zealot.

Last week, I had lunch with a group of remarkably successful women. They worked in advertising, and among them were the creative director of a major firm in New York, the head of research of a company in London, and the copywriting chief of one of the biggest firms in Manhattan.

All of them were married and had a child or two, and they all clearly earned a lot of money and had plenty of fun, in and out of the office.

You might think how wonderful it is that, thanks to the works of the great feminists plus enlightened legislation, they had been able to reach such dizzy heights and not come into collision with any glass ceilings.

But you'd be wrong; for these women were hugely successful in the Sixties and Seventies, long before Harriet Harman's cackhanded new proposals to allow firms to actively discriminate in favour of female candidates - indeed, before the phrase 'positive discrimination' had even been coined.

They got their jobs - and kept them - simply by being better than anyone else around, and as one of them succinctly put it, 'Telling yourself you were going to get out there and show those sons of b*****s' when the going got really tough.

Smiling sweetly at me over her glass of wine, she then added: 'All the whingeing that went on from women because they said they were being discriminated against, I just didn't get it. The truth was simply that they weren't good enough.'

Her comment will infuriate women who feel they've smacked their heads repeatedly against a glass ceiling. In our politically correct times, it's taboo to suggest women lose out in the workplace simply because

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: equality

1 posted on 05/13/2009 4:51:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Well in the correct business world, the best survive! I guess that these women survived so I have to think that they were good...heh. Too bad that the method of hiring has anything to do with gender - but what the hey, if they are good, keep them, if bad, fire them... Hopefully, the latter applied also...


2 posted on 05/13/2009 4:59:22 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

I might add...that the glass ceiling exists only for those that do not make the grade. That is why they are so angry - ya know...


3 posted on 05/13/2009 5:00:50 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve worked with some fluffheads and known others who were scary competent. My next door neighbor is retired now, but made it up several notches at Philip Morris - I think her PhD is in chemistry:

Director of Research
Senior VP of R&D
VP of Worldwide Scientific Affairs

Now, she paints beautifully and raises bonsai.

My Mom was a successful and competent business manager.


4 posted on 05/13/2009 6:12:40 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: nickcarraway
I worked for a small financial institution (60 employees) in a small town in the early 1970's.

There were no females on staff.

Once in a loan committee meeting, I screwed up the courage to ask him why that was.

He said "They're not worth it".

Years later, having witnessed innumerable incidents involving these creatures, I still agree with him and long for the days.......

5 posted on 05/13/2009 6:47:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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My job would be as perfect as humanly possible if only there were no women there. We have about 15 of them and exactly two are professional and competent. The rest are whining, useless hags and tarts who are a drag on efficiency and order.


6 posted on 05/14/2009 1:37:21 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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There was recently a cost-savings suggestion request in my workplace.

I suggested we get rid of all the houseplants, the houseplant service creature (female of course) and block all the home & garden and pet websites, plus get rid of the refrigerators and the microwaves.

The fat chicks in the office are still giving me the stinkeye and it's been 9 months since all of that happened.

7 posted on 05/14/2009 9:00:05 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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The first ones makes sense (plant related). Not sure about the others but I will say that all but one of the chicks who are worthless here are the fat ones. The most incompetent (as well as irritable, and repulsive in every way) is a ginormous dyke. She must weigh 320 lbs at about 5’4 and is easily three feet wide across the hips.


8 posted on 05/15/2009 12:07:58 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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We apparently have an affirmative action policy regarding fat chicks where I work.

It would take an Ansel Adams to do a group photo around our place.

9 posted on 05/17/2009 7:28:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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