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GOP Senators Back Move to Center with Crist
TheHill.com ^ | 5/13/09 | J. Taylor Rushing

Posted on 05/13/2009 11:25:56 AM PDT by leftyontheright

Senate Republicans, from the rank and file to the leadership, are supporting the inevitable move to the center that comes with backing Florida Gov. Charlie Crist for the state’s open Senate seat.

GOP senators accept that Tuesday's endorsements of Crist by Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Cornyn (Texas) is more about pragmatism than principle.

The popular centrist governor faces a GOP primary from former state House Speaker Marco Rubio of West Miami, a protégé of former Gov. Jeb Bush and a more conservative candidate.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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1 posted on 05/13/2009 11:25:57 AM PDT by leftyontheright
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To: leftyontheright

Center? WTF is “Center”? What does that word mean?


2 posted on 05/13/2009 11:26:46 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to become slaves of Washington.")
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To: leftyontheright

Just how far left had we gotten that a RINO beings us back to the center? God help us...


3 posted on 05/13/2009 11:26:57 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: AmericanGirlRising; eeevil conservative; jusduat; freeangel; tunedin; Naspino; FreedomPoster

IsaksonTruthFile

mega-RINO PING


4 posted on 05/13/2009 11:27:03 AM PDT by leftyontheright
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To: leftyontheright

Back to the center from what?


5 posted on 05/13/2009 11:27:13 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SolidWood

“What does that word mean?”

It means “back door man”.


6 posted on 05/13/2009 11:27:44 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: leftyontheright

Move “back” to center? When was the GOP centered?

GW Bush was NOT on the far right.

And there are those who insist that Barack Obama is a moderate and not on the far Left. They will need to point out which positions are to the Left of Obama’s.


7 posted on 05/13/2009 11:28:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (If you like the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, the IRS, and the Post Office, you'll love govt Health Care)
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To: leftyontheright

OMG NO!


8 posted on 05/13/2009 11:28:30 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: leftyontheright

And the GOP has such a gift dropped right in their laps, and it’s a fumble.

Progressives, one and all.


9 posted on 05/13/2009 11:29:07 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, you surrender your rights.)
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To: leftyontheright

Ladies and gentlemen, we’re not just at war with the Democrats, we’re also at war with the Republicans!!!


10 posted on 05/13/2009 11:29:40 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SolidWood

Center? WTF is “Center”? What does that word mean?

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They still do not get it. They are afraid to take a SOLID CONSERVATIVE STAND against Obama because they think his MASSIVE welfare state will buy too many votes to defeat him. They are not taking into account the votes Obama is losing daily as he continues his Marxist onslaught. That is a growing number and it will huge by the vote in 2010.


11 posted on 05/13/2009 11:29:47 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: leftyontheright

This primary may be a showdown primary over the direction of the party. For Crist’s (RINO-Fl.) sake, support for Rubio is crucial now.


12 posted on 05/13/2009 11:30:27 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: leftyontheright
Its time. Its third party time.

The GOP is irretrievable. Its leadership is a bunch of destructive termites who engineered two catastrophic loses in 2006 and in 2008 and are bound and determined to bring the once great party of Lincoln down to destruction.

So be it.

Even as the Democrat Party drifts further into the uncharted wasteland of socialism, the pilots who sailed the GOP ship of State into the reefs before, are moving inexorably after them.

Hasta la Vista - I'm sure all RINOs understand that.

We won't let the door hit us in the butt as we leave.

13 posted on 05/13/2009 11:31:21 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: leftyontheright

Move to the center?

So they’re going to start tilting to the right for once?


14 posted on 05/13/2009 11:31:31 AM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: leftyontheright

in 2012 I think there will be such a back-lash against liberalism that Michael Savage will be able to take the election by landslide.

I think it’s wise that our army is filled with true conservatives rather than RINOs that will once again poison it like they have done.

How the heck does that Mitchell get selected of being in charge anyhow?


15 posted on 05/13/2009 11:32:03 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: leftyontheright

http://marcorubio.com/


16 posted on 05/13/2009 11:32:04 AM PDT by wolfpat (Revolt, and re-establish the Constitution as the law of the land!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I am afraid your statement is indeed true.


17 posted on 05/13/2009 11:32:26 AM PDT by leftyontheright
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To: EagleUSA

I don’t think its that they’re afraid—it’s that they don’t have conservative bearings. They believe in big, intrusive government.

Just think, all of the things that Obama is commandeering will be the GOP’s to play with when he’s out of office.

They’re SALIVATING over the prospect.


18 posted on 05/13/2009 11:33:37 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: leftyontheright
National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman
John Cornyn (Texas) is convinced that the UN is
the greatest thing to happen to humanity.

Don't be fooled by a person who talks conservative
except for important items.
Kay Bailey hyphenated is worse.

19 posted on 05/13/2009 11:34:06 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: leftyontheright

20 posted on 05/13/2009 11:35:49 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: leftyontheright
I think that this has to do with two things. First, these sitting Senators are mistakenly trying to appeal to the center, which is obvious.

Second, I believe that they're actually more than a little intimidated by Rubio. I've watched all of his videos on uTube and he really comes off as a bright, affable, good looking and charismatic YOUNG man. In other words, additional competition that these stodgy old men don't really need. Other instances of them protecting their turf can be seen by some of their ad hominem attacks on Palin.

I think Rubio still needs to be better vetted, but he looks like a great candidate from what I've seen. Far, far better than "the old white guy" in Crist.

21 posted on 05/13/2009 11:37:47 AM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: leftyontheright

Come 2012, Republicans won’t have anything to gain by liberalizing conservatism.


22 posted on 05/13/2009 11:38:07 AM PDT by pallis
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I thought I read a thread a couple of days ago that someone was going to out Crist, Drier and Ed Koch. Now would be a good time instead of October.


23 posted on 05/13/2009 11:40:53 AM PDT by Barb4Bush (God help us all!)
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To: SolidWood

My question exactly...does moving to the center mean wetting your finger, sticking it in the air and going with the direction the wind is blowing so as to not offend or turn away anyone? Does it mean giving up some of your beliefs and agreeing with the opposite for the sake of a big tent? I really do not know what this means. Which beliefs and values am I to give up to move to the center?


24 posted on 05/13/2009 11:41:58 AM PDT by PLKIng
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To: americanophile

That’s an awesome example of a picture being worth 1,000 words! If there was a “Best Of” for postings, I’d nominate you! Bravo!!!


25 posted on 05/13/2009 11:44:36 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: MNDude
"in 2012 I think there will be such a back-lash against liberalism that Michael Savage will be able to take the election by landslide.

Maybe, maybe not. But, I believe that Presidential elections are ALWAYS a choice between two men people, and not a choice of ideologies. People vote for the person that they like the best. Presidential elections aren't popularity contests, they are THE popularity contest.

If we don't have someone who's at least as fractionally engaging, articulate (yes, he's articulate), charismatic and calm as Obama, we're probably going to be looking at another four years, regardless of what the economy looks like.

Of course, that presupposes that there isn't (God forbid) another terrorist attack, especially on American soil. If that happens, then Cheney could get elected, literally Dick Cheney could beat Obama.

26 posted on 05/13/2009 11:44:55 AM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: leftyontheright
"pragmatism than not principle", the defining words of the republicans.
27 posted on 05/13/2009 11:54:00 AM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: GOPsterinMA

...with a primo parking space!


28 posted on 05/13/2009 11:56:45 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: leftyontheright

This means they are moving to the right, they were already left of center.

Sure would be nice if we can rid the party of RINO’s.


29 posted on 05/13/2009 11:56:54 AM PDT by stockpirate (The NAZI's called themselves - "The Children of the New Age of World Order")
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To: Barb4Bush

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2246914/posts

Documentary purports to rip GOP’s closet doors
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/8/9 | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer


30 posted on 05/13/2009 12:01:28 PM PDT by maggief
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To: SolidWood

The further to the left both parties go, the further to the right the GOP is accused of being. How many GOP Senators are as far to the right as the following Democrat Senators are to the left:

Kennedy, Kerry, Leahy, Dodd, Schumer, Lautenberg, Mikulski, Carper, Brown, Levin, Durbin, Feingold, Harkin, Boxer, Murray, Wyden, and Reid?

And that isn’t even an exhaustive list.

The media, the Dems, and the RINOs are trying to turn us into Europe, where actual conservatives are marginalized and political contests are between outright Socialists and supposed “conservatives”, who are really Socialist-Lite and on some issues (social issues and immigration) are as culturally Marxist as the Socialists.


31 posted on 05/13/2009 12:02:54 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (REALLY & TRULY updated!).)
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To: leftyontheright

Looks like John McCain and his friends in the senate are trying to move the senate to Colin Powell-approved territory; I REALLY hope Rubio wins in Florida and puts a stop to this craziness.


32 posted on 05/13/2009 12:11:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Big_Monkey

“stodgy old men”

Yep—the good ole boy network which long ago decided to shed itself of true “conservative” values who really need to be targeted to go.


33 posted on 05/13/2009 12:19:12 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: leftyontheright

Center = RINO


34 posted on 05/13/2009 12:23:20 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: leftyontheright
I support Rubio over Crist and urge everyone to do likewise. We need fresh, new, conservative faces in the party, not a spray-on tan metrosexual.

Say YES to Christ! Say NO to Crist.
35 posted on 05/13/2009 12:27:55 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: freeangel
"Yep—the good ole boy network which long ago decided to shed itself of true “conservative” values who really need to be targeted to go.

That's assuming that had "conservative" principles in the first place. I'm not even sure that they have moderate or liberal principles now. These guys (mostly guys) embrace one guiding principle, staying in office at any cost.

If I could magically change one thing about the Constitution, it would be term limits. The lack of term limits enable this kind of "good 'ole boy" regime. Sadly, it's never going to change.

36 posted on 05/13/2009 12:33:23 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: leftyontheright
Marco actually tried to enact a Florida-version of the FairTax. He created a plan to replace property taxes with a sales tax increase. Unfortunately, liberals like Charlie Crist blocked him. If Floridians can't get together and defeat old Crist with Rubio, that will be pathetic. Crist is NOT popular except with RINOS's and Libs. He's young and he is a Catholic conservative. Photobucket

Marco Rubio is a politician who rose to one of the most powerful political posts in Florida at a young age, becoming one of the highest-ranking Cuban-Americans in the state. From November 2006 through November 2008, Rubio is speaker of the Florida House of Representatives. That puts him in position to single-handedly stop any piece of proposed legislation. A speaker of the House also has a good chance at turning an agenda into law. A Republican, Marco Rubio champions a conservative, smaller-government approach to government in the Florida state Capitol, in contrast with other elements of the Republican-controlled state government which are more moderate or centrist. Marco Rubio is seen as a politician in the mold of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who advocated more conservative approaches when he was governor of Florida for eight years ending in 2007. During 2007, Marco Rubio championed a major overhaul of the Florida tax system. He wanted to slash property taxes, increase sales taxes, and cut the amount of money going to local governments. His effort failed, although the Florida Legislature passed a more modest plan. Much of what he pushed in his first year as speaker the time when a presiding officer in the Florida Legislature has the greatest influence came from a book of citizen recommendations he published called 100 Innovative Ideas for Florida's Future. Marco Rubio, a resident of West Miami, Florida, was elected to the House of Representatives in a special election on Jan. 25, 2000. He was subsequently re-elected each November. He represents the 111th House District. He was born May 28, 1971, in Miami. He previously served as a City Commissioner of the City of West Miami. Marco Rubio, who is an attorney, has a bachelor's degree from the University of Florida and a law degree from the University of Miami. His official office address is: The Honorable Marco Rubio, Speaker, Florida House of Representatives, 420 The Capitol, 402 South Monroe Street Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300. For more information go to http://www.myfloridahouse.gov

37 posted on 05/13/2009 12:33:41 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mojitojoe

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/topic/politics/government/marco-rubio-PEPLT007456.topic


38 posted on 05/13/2009 12:34:14 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: SolidWood

It means that one vote in three or in two or in four will be cast with John Kerry and Kay Hagan, that’s what it means.


39 posted on 05/13/2009 12:37:05 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: mojitojoe

It’s a shame Marco opted out of military service. I can’t imagine looking myself in the mirror while men my age were going off to war. Same score as Crist in that account.


40 posted on 05/13/2009 12:39:56 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: pallis

Are you talking about the election or demographics. That date is important because several states may flip with old whites dying and new immigrants voting. AZ, NM, NV, and perhaps even FL may be be permanently screwed. Like social security and medicare, it is happening more quickly than people realize.


41 posted on 05/13/2009 12:42:33 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: leftyontheright
Does anyone still think we can still vote our way out of this deepening tyranny?

Fat chance == No chance!

42 posted on 05/13/2009 12:46:46 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: leftyontheright

Oh yes, move to the center and when the LIBs become more left wing, the GOP can move to the new center. The LIBs will move further left and the GOP can move again to the next new center. And on and on, until they are both LIBs.


43 posted on 05/13/2009 12:47:14 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: MSF BU

It’s a shame Marco opted out of military service. I can’t imagine looking myself in the mirror while men my age were going off to war. Same score as Crist in that account.
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So did our poser in chief sitting in the WH. So it’s either a real Republican or RINO Crist.


44 posted on 05/13/2009 12:51:52 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: SuperLuminal

Does anyone still think we can still vote our way out of this deepening tyranny?

Fat chance == No chance!
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Probably not. BUT there is only one other option and until we have exhausted all others, that option will never have legitimacy. I do think red states can come together and make differences in the elections. We desperately need to gain some seats. If we can, we can stop everything he tries to do. It’s our only hope and the time to get busy is now.


45 posted on 05/13/2009 12:55:02 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I emailed Cornyn several times ..never got an answer. I thought he was a true conservative but I’m changing my mind.


46 posted on 05/13/2009 12:57:41 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: BlueStateBlues

It’s important to defeat Crist in the Florida primary and John McCain in the Arizona primary.


47 posted on 05/13/2009 1:03:13 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: SuperLuminal
Does anyone still think we can still vote our way out of this deepening tyranny?

To quote that guy from "The Day After Tomorrow"

I'm afraid that time has come and gone.


48 posted on 05/13/2009 1:06:15 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: ZULU

I’m out of the GOP after next week’s election here in CA.

I’ve had enough. Next week I am registering Libertarian.


49 posted on 05/13/2009 1:06:35 PM PDT by glock_fan
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To: Nickname

They’re SALIVATING over the prospect.
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Some probably are, but many are not. The facade is part of the Washington Hill game. I still have enough hope that America, even the dolts, will wake up to a majority degree and put Obama out of office when they get a REAL taste of his Marxism.

Remember some American history. Only one third of the American people fought the Revolution. The others either did not care, or were British sympathizers. That says something about patriots and freedom-driven people.


50 posted on 05/13/2009 1:10:58 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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