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GOP, RNC to rebrand Democrats as 'Socialists' [ “Democrat Socialist Party.” ......]
The Politico ^

Posted on 05/13/2009 8:35:54 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

GOP to rebrand Dems as 'socialists' By: Roger Simon May 13, 2009 04:32 AM EST

A member of the Republican National Committee told me Tuesday that when the RNC meets in an extraordinary special session next week, it will approve a resolution rebranding Democrats as the “Democrat Socialist Party.”

When I asked if such a resolution would force RNC Chairman Michael Steele to use that label when talking about Democrats in all his speeches and press releases, the RNC member replied: “Who cares?”

Which pretty much sums up the attitude some members of the RNC have toward their chairman these days.

Steele wrote a memo last month opposing the resolution. Steele said that while he believes Democrats “are indeed marching America toward European-style socialism,” he also said in a (rare) flash of insight that officially referring to them as the Democrat Socialist Party “will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.”

Two other resolutions — to urge Republican lawmakers to reject earmarks and to commend them for opposing “bailouts and reckless spending bills” — are also on the agenda, but language that would have denounced Sen. Arlen Specter, a Republican turned Democrat, and Republican Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins for voting for President Obama’s stimulus package has been dropped.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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And when did they figure this out????
1 posted on 05/13/2009 8:35:54 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

A little LATE....we’re heading for worse....


2 posted on 05/13/2009 8:36:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WE have a REPUBLIC.....IF we can KEEP IT!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Considering how much Nationalization they are doing, they should brand them the Democrat National Socialist Party
3 posted on 05/13/2009 8:36:51 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Sub-Driver

IS THIS TRUE????????!!!!!


4 posted on 05/13/2009 8:36:52 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Sub-Driver

So we have the Democrats Socialists (DEMS) Democrats (RINO’s) and Conservatives (no actual Party)?


5 posted on 05/13/2009 8:37:37 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Sub-Driver
That's just wrong.

They're actually fascists, in the true, corporate-nationalization sense of the word.

6 posted on 05/13/2009 8:38:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: mnehring

I’ve been saying that for years now.

They fit the history of the nazi party of pre WW2.


7 posted on 05/13/2009 8:39:20 AM PDT by crz
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To: US Navy Vet

One can only hope this is true, however, I’d much prefer to use the term merely as the “Socialist Party.”


8 posted on 05/13/2009 8:39:40 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Sub-Driver

How fitting, DSP, the dipshits party.


9 posted on 05/13/2009 8:40:46 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much.)
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To: crz

Even taking the Nazis out of it, re Godwin’s law, just look at, for example, Peron’s Argentina.. fascism based on the economics of the National Socialists that the left praises often.


10 posted on 05/13/2009 8:41:36 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Sub-Driver

Michael Steele - Latest in a long line of Republican disappointments.


11 posted on 05/13/2009 8:42:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Sub-Driver
Steele wrote a memo last month opposing the resolution. Steele said that while he believes Democrats “are indeed marching America toward European-style socialism,” he also said in a (rare) flash of insight that officially referring to them as the Democrat Socialist Party “will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.”

What a total piece of milquetoast this guy is.
12 posted on 05/13/2009 8:43:00 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: US Navy Vet

If it is I might consider starting to donate once again.


13 posted on 05/13/2009 8:43:30 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds similar to the Republican Socialist Party we have on the right.


14 posted on 05/13/2009 8:43:36 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: Sub-Driver
Looks like Michael Steele is afraid Big Media might mischaracterize and say mean things about Republicans & Conservatives.

Sure don't want that happening, do we!

15 posted on 05/13/2009 8:44:17 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: bamahead

I have supported him in some situations because I understood his point and had no issue with the overall message he was trying to present, but this one leaves me scratching my head.

How is this a bad thing to call a spade a spade?


16 posted on 05/13/2009 8:44:25 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Sir Gawain

the leader of that Party is back home, I believe in Texas.


17 posted on 05/13/2009 8:44:55 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Sub-Driver

From the atricle:
When I asked if such a resolution would force RNC Chairman Michael Steele to use that label when talking about Democrats in all his speeches and press releases, the RNC member replied: “Who cares?”

Which pretty much sums up the attitude some members of the RNC have toward their chairman these days.

Steele wrote a memo last month opposing the resolution. Steele said that while he believes Democrats “are indeed marching America toward European-style socialism,” he also said in a (rare) flash of insight that officially referring to them as the Democrat Socialist Party “will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.”


18 posted on 05/13/2009 8:45:13 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: rwfromkansas

After all, the GOP would take the opportunity regardless.


19 posted on 05/13/2009 8:45:41 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: goodnesswins
DSA
20 posted on 05/13/2009 8:46:08 AM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives
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To: pennboricua

But the statist GOP still moves on.


21 posted on 05/13/2009 8:47:14 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: Sir Gawain
Sounds similar to the Republican Socialist Party we have on the right.

Glenn Beck makes a credible argument that both parties are run by 'Progressives'.

22 posted on 05/13/2009 8:48:30 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Sub-Driver

And when did they figure this out????

I agree, it’s a little late....at least 40 years late!


23 posted on 05/13/2009 8:48:52 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver

That is a silly idea.

It won’t work.


24 posted on 05/13/2009 8:49:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Sub-Driver

The Whack Left Loon Party is much better!


25 posted on 05/13/2009 8:51:01 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver
"Steele wrote a memo last month opposing the resolution. Steele said that while he believes Democrats 'are indeed marching America toward European-style socialism,'..." So YOU Mr. Steele recommend we use doublespeak?
Good GRIEF!!
WTH's going on.

"...he [Steele] also said in a (rare) flash of insight that officially referring to them as the Democrat Socialist Party 'will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.'"

Ahhhh, what're they doing *anyway*?
Moreover, "the media and our opponents" are one in the same!
Oy vey.

And to think, Steele's the gifted one! LOL!!

26 posted on 05/13/2009 8:51:21 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: bamahead
will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.

My God, man! What are they doing to Pubbies now; playing hopscotch?

In this single statement you have summed up what is wrong with the RNC. Stop trying to "look nice" to the opponents.

Concern over image only leads to appeasement.

27 posted on 05/13/2009 8:52:09 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: Sir Gawain

The true Patriots are on the rise, the tide will turn sooner than much imagine.


28 posted on 05/13/2009 8:52:10 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: rwfromkansas

The problem is he’s too big of a wimp to even try.

Earth to Mike Steele : the media is going to mischaracterize Republicans ANYWAY.

Steele has utterly failed to deliever ANY kind of message about what the party stands for. I really wonder if it stands for anything myself.

Hell...the so called ‘leaders’ like McCain and Romney are going on a ‘listening’ tour because they are so devoid of their own beliefs and convictions, they need people to tell them what they should represent, so they can go out there and merely pander for their votes...rather than actually believing in any principles whatsoever.

Until we get a Republican that actually STANDS UP and affirms his BELIEF in conservative ideals, and articulates WHY he feels that way....conservatives will be lost in the wilderness.

Michael Steele ain’t it.


29 posted on 05/13/2009 8:52:14 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: mnehring

But, but, but...

The “National Socialist Party” was a right-wing party, at least that’s what I’ve been told all my life.


30 posted on 05/13/2009 8:52:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

See post # 29.


31 posted on 05/13/2009 8:52:36 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Sub-Driver
GOP, RNC to rebrand Democrats as 'Socialists' [ “Democrat Socialist Party.” ......]

Yep, because calling them liberal isn't right, when the republicans took the "middle ground" which IS liberalsism, letting the dems win by sliding further left.

32 posted on 05/13/2009 8:53:13 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Sir Gawain
Sounds similar to the Republican Socialist Party we have on the right.

True.

And their nominee wasn't that much different that Obama, either.

Both supported the $700+185 Billion bailout. Both support amnesty for illegals. Both want GITMO closed.

About the only difference -- the Dem nominee is taller.
33 posted on 05/13/2009 8:53:33 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: MNlurker

Yo MNlurker—wake up and smell the coffee. There is no national party in which conservatives are welcome—except as cover to impart the impression that the GOP is a credible opposition party to the Demrat Party.

To any objective observer, the RINO-led GOP is nothing more than a demrat tool—and it has been for years.


34 posted on 05/13/2009 8:53:43 AM PDT by dools007
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To: Sub-Driver

A couple of years too late...


35 posted on 05/13/2009 8:54:06 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: TomGuy

....It won’t work...

Why not. it is absolutely on target. The American euroists are Social Democrats with the same lack of values as their one on one counterparts in Europe.

The picture must be drawn and the question asked....are you American or European? Do you love America or France, or Belgium or Britain?


36 posted on 05/13/2009 8:54:10 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: Sub-Driver
... “will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.”

I don't think it mischaracterizes the 'Rats, but other than telling the truth, it will probably have little practical effect on the average voter, who is probably too stupid to know what a 'socialist' is and what socialism stands for. And even if they did, I'm guessing that a significant number, perhaps even a majority, would not have a problem with it. This is what has changed from the '80s, and we need to understand it to understand the problem we face. There is a new generation coming to power, one that has been indoctrinated all their lives in schools dominated by ultra-liberals at the primary and secondary levels, and out-and-out Marxists at the university level. Many of them don't have a problem with confiscatory tax policies, class warfare rhetoric, and government-run everything.

37 posted on 05/13/2009 8:54:26 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Sub-Driver

Notice how the article, and the author, takes a mere one paragraph before he turns the story around to “problems” with the GOP


38 posted on 05/13/2009 8:54:27 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Sub-Driver

Good. Time to start demanding truth in advertising.


39 posted on 05/13/2009 8:54:31 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Sub-Driver
My guess is John McCain objected to this as "mean-spirited".

Lessee... the democrat party is busy
* criminalizing political differences
* clamping down on free speech legislatively or by bullying and character assassination
* seeking to restrict firearms ownership
* smearing as 'terrorists' those who have a literalist view of the Constitution
* building inequalities under the law via 'hate crimes' laws
* undermining free and open elections by promoting electoral corruption, and on and on.

Personally, I'm thinking waaay beyond "socialist" these days.

40 posted on 05/13/2009 8:55:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Fresh Wind

Only in relation to the very left leaning Communists.

The real ‘right wing’ at the time where the SDP, and they where somewhat economically liberal (very Keynesian) by our standards, but they did represent a somewhat democratic republic form of government.


41 posted on 05/13/2009 8:55:48 AM PDT by mnehring
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Sure it is late, but if done correctly the GOP can take back the House by 2012.

That may be even more important than winning the Presidency at this point in time.

The key is to put pressure on the Blue Dogs in congress and this is the way to do it.

Flipping it in 2010 is too much to hope for IMO, but you can take a big bite and put it over the top in 2012.

I think working toward building a wave in the house is more important than arguing over Palin, Romney, Huckabee etc. Whatever wave is or is not built will carry the nominee in 2012.

All things being equal, I’d almost rather have Congress than the Presidency right now if force to choose.


42 posted on 05/13/2009 8:55:59 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Sub-Driver

While the nomenclature is a truism, this is an absolutely useless gesture. Steele & Co.’s time would be better spent expounding and rebuilding conservative principles. Instead, they’re paddling around in circles while the boat fills up with water.


43 posted on 05/13/2009 8:56:39 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: dools007; MNlurker
Yo MNlurker—wake up and smell the coffee. There is no national party in which conservatives are welcome—except as cover to impart the impression that the GOP is a credible opposition party to the Demrat Party.

If you want to get philosophically technical, neither do any of the smaller third parties; a 'political party' philosophically is the antithesis of Conservatism as we look to the individual for solutions instead of the government. Parties represent groupings of issues and association with a party represents siding with a grouping of issues that best represents your values.

44 posted on 05/13/2009 8:58:47 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: bert
....It won’t work...

Why not.


What is it going to accomplish? Zilch, nada, nothing. So what if they are called the Democrat Socialists.

If the GOP nominates another McCain or Dole or Bush, the DSP is going to win AGAIN.

The GOP has more serious problems WITHIN that they need to resolve.
45 posted on 05/13/2009 9:00:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: goodnesswins

Not to worry, the GooP can always rebuild after 2010 and the slaughter ahead..

circular firing squad?

sigh


46 posted on 05/13/2009 9:01:25 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Sub-Driver
While I give Steele a C+ for effort, more is needed. You can't just get into a name-calling contest with the Democrats; that gives the media too many opportunities to brand Republicans as anti-everything.

Instead, Steele needs to give concrete examples of what "being socialist" means to the average American. More taxes, less individual freedoms, less choices.

And while he's at it, Republicans can't just say, "we're for more freedom." Sadly, that's too abstract a concept for many Americans. We need to spell it out: freedom to live and raise a family as you see fit, including private and home-schooling; freedom to earn and keep more of their hard-earned wages; freedom to worship in a church of their choosing, and contribute to charities the individual finds meaningful, not those endorsed by government; freedom to bear arms, and protect one's self and family; and freedom -- through a sound energy policy, to travel and exercise other freedoms; and finally, the freedom to live without a reasonable fear that our country's national security isn't being overlooked, for fear of "alienating" our enemies.

47 posted on 05/13/2009 9:02:51 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: mnehring

Which is very difficult when the party that I’d like to identify (R) has gone further to the left of Democrat President JFK...hence if people ask me what Party I am a part of I simply say I’m a conservative.


48 posted on 05/13/2009 9:04:13 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: mnehring

You beat me to it.

The shoe sure fits, doesn’t it?


49 posted on 05/13/2009 9:05:57 AM PDT by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote...)
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To: Sub-Driver
I believe it when I start seeing it appear in EVERY RNC/GOP newsletter.

The DSP (Democratic Socialist Party) has been doing this to us for years. Past due time to hit back...

50 posted on 05/13/2009 9:06:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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