for far too long.....bad laws / bad judges.
Posted on 05/11/2009 7:16:43 PM PDT by pissant
California voters head to the polls next week with predictions of doom echoing in their ears if they decline to endorse the massive tax hikes prescribed for them by big Democratic majorities in the statehouse, Arnold and a handful of now ruined-politically Republican legislators.
"Shrill" doesn't begin to describe the campaign designed to stampede the Golden State electorate. The latest ad has a weary, soot-covered fire-fighter urging a yes vote on the tax hike. The message is clear: Vote no and your homes will burn down.
Not even this sort of fear-mongering is moving the needle towards "yes" on the massive tax surge on next week's ballot as poll after poll shows all the key measures put forward by the tax-and-spend-and tax-again crowd failing badly.
Arnold is doing his best to summon up the old magic but his appeal long ago hit Gray Davis-levels. Arnold was elected to slash taxes and spending, and somehow he confused that mandate with orders to throw in with the public employee unions. Too bad. He could have been a contender.
The GOP "leaders" who signed on to this roadmap to ruin have been dumped by their caucuses, and go down in California history as the biggest marks to have ever had a seat at the poker game known as the "Big Five" negotiations wherein the governor and the top Republicans and Democrats in the State Assembly and Senate hash out budget matters.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
If the taxes proposals fail, what does CA do next? Backdoor the taxes? Beg for more federal money?
Declare bankruptcy and tell the union thugs to go pound sand.
They will get a judge to impose it.
The voters will deliver the message. The corrupt rulers, the special interests and the unions, reinforced by the courts, will find a way to ignore it or overturn it. Then we will see what the voters will do.
Probably.
They can pass resolutions out their ears but can’t do squat about those Rats in Sacramento. Sickening.
I prefer a pitchfork revolution to oust the worthless bastards in Sacramento and start over.
See, this is what I dislike about Hewitt. This is an excellent article but it completely ignores the elephant in the room. Hewitt has a habit of doing this. C'mon Hugh - get to the root cause of why CA is bankrupt. I can name four off the top of my head:
(1) Illegals
(2) Children of Illegals
(3) state public unions
(4) Bloated state government
Hugh was an illegal alien coddler ala Medved before Mitt started talking tough on illegals in the primary. Then he did a 180 so fast I got whiplash. Maybe he can revise A Mormon in the Whitehouse for 2012. LOL
I love Hugh’s show, but he’s got a tin ear for Politics and doesn’t know squat about football.
“Declare bankruptcy and tell the union thugs to go pound sand. “
Somehow I don’t see that happening. They aren’t even allowed to lower union wagers without losing their porkulus money. Breaking the union by bankruptcy would probably mean losing all federal money.
Well they could cut spending or sell assets.
“This is an excellent article but it completely ignores the elephant in the room. “
This is common in all media now.
Last week, I saw article after article about 0bama going after the companies “benefiting” from offshoring. I didn’t see any talking about why companies offshored in the first place. Fix that problem and the others would fall into line.
Is that possible? State or federal judge(s)? What are the mechanism(s) to do this?
“Well they could cut spending or sell assets.”
Common sense dictates that this is a good move, therefore I don’t think it will happen.
I have noticed that no one has mentioned sending the illegals home.
A side question on the topic of CA. I read Liberty and Tyranny recently. It seems like the illegals are destroying the health care system of CA, in a large part due to the ease of entry through emergency rooms. Can hospitals close ER’s or is that dictated by the state?
Tax Revolt. If the public votes it down and a judge shoves it down the voters throat, no way in Hell should the people pay.
Getting rid of those boards, commissions, and such that pay unemployed political hacks and stalwarts six-figure incomes could easily save enough to hire 1,700 firefighters. IMO.
Don’t think so...they remember Rose bird.
This California voter will hit the poll early next Tuesday, and vote no across the board.
Illegals are costing CA billions a year.
From social services, crime, etc.
Yes it would be nice to send the illegals home.
With around 20 million + rounding them up and shipping them back. Do you think the tens of millions of Liberals and the MSM will let that happen. Think not.
I blame the people in other states who hire them.
But how can this be done? Do judges have the power to raise taxes?
Check this out:
Holy Sh$t! I had never heard of this before. That cannot be constitutional. Wow...I’m speechless...
The legislature and gov should have said no.
I know it is not a simple as putting them on a bus and shipping them back. Would that it were. Just wondering if the state could start curtailing the benefits that are (IMO) illegally received by the illegals.
Hell, that probably wouldn’t work. It might help CA, but the illegals would just flee north and east.
Conservatives were never fooled by Arnold. Look at our posts back when he first got elected. We knew who and what Arnold was. He married a Kennedy who is a devoted liberal, for cryin out loud.
He was a moderate at best starting out. He was always to the left on social issues. He shifted to the left fiscally and socially ever since then.
It should not surprise anyone. We saw it coming.
It’ll be our own personal “May Day.”
They tried. It took years before the US Supreme Court allowed their “no” to overrule the judge’s “yes”
No matter waht happened do it again.
PS: Arizona’s law has been upheld in court. Let’s copy their paper.
When the Mexican gals are ready to have their kid, they come across and hit the ER.
When the illegals have their kids in the U.S. that kid is an automatic American Citizen. They get welfare, foodstamps, MediCal, etc.
The hospitals have to take care of the people who come into the ERs and the illegals use them as you would use
your regular Dr.
When the illegals commit crimes, they go through our justice system and into our prison system. Major costs.
If they were shipped back to Mexico, they just come back again to commit more crimes.
Of course there may be enough who are so stupid they don't realize this and want their goodies for free. "NO! I don't want to pay $X more a month to keep my goodies worth $XX rolling in." It's possible, but a thin hope to run an election on.
I predict the taxes will pass.
Will the last productive person leaving California please turn the lights out. (Oh, wait. The environmentalists are already covering that task.)
It’s already happening. Schwarzenegger cut $74 million from SEIU wages. They went to Obama and he told Schwarzegger to reinstate their wages or face the loss of $6.8 BILLION of stimulus money.
So Obama is shilling for the unions in CA, forcing labor cutbacks to be cancelled, destroying federalism. Obama the Chicao thug is strongarming the states to payback the unions. It is wrong and despicable. We are governed by a thugocracy.
I have reached out for family and friends to vote NO across the board. Some have already done so by absentee ballot.
Tar - check.
Feathers - check.
That’s right.
I’m witchoo.
Yep. I was a McClintock man. Arnold is full of himself and guano.
The taxes will not pass.
It’s the Chicago Way.
These are the people who elect and re-elect Barbara Boxer, and vote overwhelmingly Democrat.
Forget about it.
“Breaking the union by bankruptcy would probably mean losing all federal money.”
Bring it on, can’t happen quick enough!!!
No bailouts, fire 3/4 of civil service workers, close all public schools!!!!
How about enforcing heavy fines on ALL employers, from families who employ gardeners and nannies, to factories and sweatshops, to food service?
Self-deportation. Paying for ICE guys to go door to door in a few select cities would be all you’d need. A great investment for California.
If a legislative body can work to create spending programs as most spend 90% of their time diddling in, then, by all means, that same legislative body can uncreate spending programs and spending levels.
The taxpaying citizen that still loves his/her country needs to stand up and scream this until the media covers the fact.
Continued handouts to illegals and other giveaway programs need to be the first to go, not to mention all the bilingual public school crap and 'enviro - give a Berkley grad a job' departments in CA. Of course no one talks about that in the news.
This one is going to be heard loudly, like Prop 13 was 30 years ago. Can’t wait for it to happen.
As far as the predictions for a ‘meltdown’ of Cali government, I say to them stop threatening.
Just do it.
“Bring it on, can’t happen quick enough!!!”
I certainly agree, but those in charge on both sides of the political aisle would never let that happen.
I’ve read about this destructive cycle many times. No one with any power seems to want to stop it even though the long and short term effects are obviously destructive.
Very depressing.
Such a “start over” needs done nationally.
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