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Polling shows independents aren't buying Obama’s promises of prosperity through Big Government
The Libertarian Party ^ | 5/11/09 | The Libertarian Party

Posted on 05/11/2009 11:25:43 AM PDT by VirginiaConstitutionalist

Poll: Independents reject Obama, agree with Libertarian Party
Polling shows independents aren't buying Obama’s promises of prosperity through Big Government

WASHINGTON -- Despite a deep financial crisis and the election of a left-wing president, political independents still see “big government” as a greater than “big business” by an unchanged two-to-one margin, America’s third-largest party notes today.

“Independent voters believed Candidate Obama when he said he would be mainstream. Their trusting votes gave him a narrow victory,” said Donny Ferguson, Libertarian National Committee Communications Director. “But now that the real Barack Obama has revealed himself, they’re not following his bootlegger turn toward the radical left. They still believe the same Big Government that Obama promises as our global salvation will be America’s undoing.”

“Only one party in America agrees with independent voters, and that is the Libertarian Party,” said Ferguson. “Republicans spent 14 years fattening government with their ever-escalating budgets. Even the Republican ‘alternative budget’ called for massive deficits and bigger spending.”

“Once again, Libertarians are the only mainstream party in America. Only Libertarians will reduce the size and cost of government. Obama and the Republicans have us spiraling towards national bankruptcy.”

A Rasmussen Reports poll released Monday asked 1,007 adults “which of the following will be the biggest threat to the country in the future –”big business”, big labor or “big government?” Fifty-nine percent (59%) of politically independent Americans viewed “big government” as the greatest threat, virtually unchanged from the 60 percent measured the last time the question was asked in 2006 – before the financial crisis and election of Barack Obama.

Only 30 percent answered “big business” and 8 percent answered “big labor,” both also virtually unchanged from the 26 percent and 10 percent measured in 2006.

Since the question was asked major financial crises have weakened the economy and the White House has been occupied by a president pushing radical expansions of government size and power -- with virtually no effect on independents. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus three percent.

The poll was released on the same day the White House released numbers showing the economy performing worse than Obama promised, and the federal budget deficit growing to a size four times larger than the 2008 Bush record. Under Obama, the federal government will borrow nearly 50 cents for every dollar it spends, an unsustainable and inflationary level of borrowing.

In more bad news for Obama, the only Americans buying into his opposition to capitalism are largely those who already voted for him, leaving little room to expand his support.

Democrats in 2006 feared “big government” more than “big business” by a 55 percent to 32 percent margin. Following in lockstep with Obama, they have flipped their views. Now, Democrats fear job creators more than government by a 52 percent to 32 percent margin.

Opposition to “big government” grew among grassroots Republicans, though their party leadership doesn’t seem to share that view, based on their “alternative budget.” In 2006, Republicans feared “big government” more than “big business” by a 68 percent to 18 percent margin. That grew in 2009 to 80 percent to 10 percent.

“Grassroots Republicans oppose Big Government and want a party that agrees with them. Once again, the Libertarian Party is the only party that proposes cutting spending. We don’t follow the still-vibrant Republican tradition of making government bigger and costlier each year,” said Ferguson.

The Libertarian Party is America's third-largest political party, founded in 1971 as an alternative to the two main political parties. You can find more information on the Libertarian Party by visiting http://www.LP.org. The Libertarian Party proudly stands for smaller government, lower taxes and more freedom.

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1 posted on 05/11/2009 11:25:43 AM PDT by VirginiaConstitutionalist
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

...but wait, Colin Powell said Americans want to pay more in taxes and want more government in their lives.


2 posted on 05/11/2009 11:27:01 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist


3 posted on 05/11/2009 11:27:17 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
"Now, Democrats fear job creators more than government..."

LOL!!! That joke writes itself...

4 posted on 05/11/2009 11:29:29 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
“Once again, Libertarians are the only mainstream party in America. Only Libertarians will reduce the size and cost of government. Obama and the Republicans have us spiraling towards national bankruptcy.”



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
5 posted on 05/11/2009 11:32:19 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead
I was and still am attracted to the Reagan message. If the GOP wants me back, they have to come and get me.

(see tagline)

6 posted on 05/11/2009 11:39:54 AM PDT by lakertaker (Libertarian Party since 1998)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He’s a Chicago thug. The names change; the machinery stays the same.


7 posted on 05/11/2009 11:41:22 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

So Independents are shocked that Obama lied to them. Well who would have thought it!!!


8 posted on 05/11/2009 11:42:51 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
You know what, that's great and all but...

“Independent voters believed Candidate Obama when he said he would be mainstream. Their trusting votes gave him a narrow victory,”

Anyone that was stupid enough to think that the most left-wing member of the Senate would govern from the middle is a moron. He didnt even claim that he would. They projected their "Hope" that he wouldn't be the Marxist that he said he would be once he got to the highest office in the land. How stupid do you have to be?

9 posted on 05/11/2009 11:43:25 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Independents... I think that’s French for moron. If they couldn’t see through this guy in October, they won’t be able to see through him now. Stooges, all. Let’s return to the ORIGINAL deal where only PROPERTY HOLDERS could vote!!!! Our electorate must become be more intelligent than these American Idol clowns...


10 posted on 05/11/2009 11:45:39 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: CharlieOK1

Maybe we could sell these “Independents” the Brooklyn Bridge!!!!


11 posted on 05/11/2009 11:46:25 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington

to be fair, I 100% agree with their stance on smaller government and the fact that the Republicans have sold us out, but I mean geeze, how stupid did you have to be to not see that he was going to socialize the country.


12 posted on 05/11/2009 11:49:52 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
Oh, now they freakin' wake up!
13 posted on 05/11/2009 11:52:24 AM PDT by theDentist (qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspell.)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Independent voters believed Candidate Obama when he said he would be mainstream. Their trusting votes gave him a narrow victory.....

The OBozo is a one term disaster for sure.


14 posted on 05/11/2009 11:52:29 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: CharlieOK1
Yep. We (the GOP) dropped the ball big time. Whenever we pander and reach across the isle, we get our posteriors handed to us by the Left and the media. We need to run a conservative candidate and let the chips fall where they may (which, I believe, is in the winner's column).

This will require replacing National GOP leadership with strong conservatives that will tell the public... "here's the menu. Pick something you like or go somewhere else. We ain't changin' the cookin'"

15 posted on 05/11/2009 11:52:43 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
Republicans spent 14 years fattening government with their ever-escalating budgets.

Yep.

16 posted on 05/11/2009 11:55:20 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

He and the MSM baffled them all with BS and now we have at least 2 and possibly 4 to 8 years of this.


17 posted on 05/11/2009 11:55:26 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: bamahead
Their whole agenda resolves to “I want to smoke Pot”.
18 posted on 05/11/2009 11:56:00 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

What say you, Mr. Colon Powell?


19 posted on 05/11/2009 11:56:27 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

They may not be “buying it” but I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that they’ll vote for the socialist again in 2012.


20 posted on 05/11/2009 11:57:14 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Increasingly mulling Newt.)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Independent voters believed Obama would be mainstream?....OMG! And guess whose fault this is?....The damn media never questioned anything Obama did! His radical background didn’t bother any of these so called independent voters? Anything that questioned his experience to be president was stuffed!


21 posted on 05/11/2009 11:58:14 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Dan(9698)
and the left's whole agenda boils down to:

"I want to have sex whenever I want, with whomever (or, whatever) I want."

22 posted on 05/11/2009 11:59:47 AM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

IF they are not buying his and state radio’s bag of lies, why are 0’s poll numbers still high ?


23 posted on 05/11/2009 12:00:06 PM PDT by libscum (don't sit out- vote Mccain)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Getting OBozo into the White House was a supreme Chicago con job carried out by the media, George Soros and groups like ACORN!


24 posted on 05/11/2009 12:00:18 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: libscum

Me thinks his numbers are a con job also! I don’t believe anything written or said about Erkel anymore!


25 posted on 05/11/2009 12:01:56 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sir Gawain

they actually did pretty decent for awhile when it was a divided govt. The growth really kicked in when they had a rubber stamp in the white house.


26 posted on 05/11/2009 12:02:06 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: lakertaker

The LP is too accepting of illegal immigration for me. Not that the GOP is great, but at least it has some patriots on the issue.


27 posted on 05/11/2009 12:03:17 PM PDT by freespirited (Is this a nation of laws or a nation of Democrats? -- Charles Krauthammer)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Anyone who calls themself a Libertarian and voted for Obama is an idiot and does not know what a Libertarian truely is, simple as that.

Sure, some libertarians want to legalize drugs, gay marriage and abortion, but most want less government and less taxes. So Libertarians who only want gay drug doing abortionist, but taxes to go through the roof, and free health care ect, there is a party for you already called the Green Party, or Democrat party. Stay out of the Libertarian party please! We do not want your liberty hating communist side any where near Libertarianism.

Kinda like Bill Marhar who calls himself a Libertarian but is always salvating at Democrats and Obama, just makes me scratch my head.


28 posted on 05/11/2009 12:03:57 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: ilgipper

What’s worse is that Bush could’ve followed the Obama playbook and rammed through every single piece of conservative legislation in the first 100 days. But Bush wasn’t a conservative on anything but social and foreign policy issues.


29 posted on 05/11/2009 12:04:33 PM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
All these people who are waking up now, and I don't mean just the Libertarians, but plenty of RHINOS, Dems, and Christians alike are guilty of “doing the dirty.” They lived in a fantasy world, believing what was not true, because they didn't want to bother learning how cunning and conniving Obama is. They are like the girl who ran around having unprotected sex and wouldn't believe what would happen...
and then complained because she became pregnant.
30 posted on 05/11/2009 12:14:21 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Obama’s promises are the hope of fools..


31 posted on 05/11/2009 12:14:23 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: americanophile
Colin Powell said Americans want to pay more in taxes and want more government in their lives.

And Joe Biden said it's patriotic to pay high taxes.

32 posted on 05/11/2009 12:17:09 PM PDT by TurtleUp (Turtle up: cancel optional spending until 2012, and boycott TARP/stimulus companies forever!)
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To: TurtleUp

Joe Biden has hair plugs and talks to himself.


33 posted on 05/11/2009 12:22:42 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython

“Joe Biden has hair plugs and talks to himself.”

LOL! And when he laughs heartily, you’ll know he told himself a funny joke.


34 posted on 05/11/2009 12:27:33 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
Despite a deep financial crisis and the election of a left-wing president, political independents still see “big government” as a greater than “big business”

A greater what?

35 posted on 05/11/2009 12:29:40 PM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin has run a fishing business, a city, and a state. All Obama has done is run his mouth.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

RE: “Independent voters believed Candidate Obama when he said he would be mainstream. Their trusting votes gave him a narrow victory.....

The OBozo is a one term disaster for sure.”

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I sure hope you are correct re the one-term for zero. But are we certain those who put him over the top in ‘08 were Independents?

What about all the ‘youths’ and/or minorities who supported him en masse and will undoubtedly do so in the next election no matter what a disaster his administration has been? Who REALLY voted for zero anyway? Any statistics?


36 posted on 05/11/2009 12:30:17 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: ScottinVA
He's a real card at parties, Obama has TOTUS, Biden has PlOTUS. (Plugs of the United States)

He has his secret service detail picking up the clumps that fall out of his head during public appearances.

Please contact your congressman, do you know how many donkeys had to be sacrificed to cover up this empty dome?


37 posted on 05/11/2009 12:35:06 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

Where were these people in the fall?


38 posted on 05/11/2009 12:37:17 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
“Independent voters believed Candidate Obama when he said he would be mainstream. Their trusting votes gave him a narrow victory,”

He lied. He's a democrat. Most of them pretend to have conservative values and win.

Now, if only the conservatives would do the same - but mean it!

39 posted on 05/11/2009 12:48:30 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist

I would be so happy to have true representatives that represent us. If we can get the independents to follow conservative lines we can sweep the house clean again.


40 posted on 05/11/2009 12:49:57 PM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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To: libscum
The media portrays Obama as a young, cool, hip, devoted husband and father and basically all-around great guy - and we like to see our leaders as a reflection of ourselves. Plus his skin color (different from "race", which, as modern genetics shows us, does not have any scientific meaning) makes lots of people (white, black, etc) feel good about themselves. At some level, opposing Obama (if the question is given directly, not indirectly as a query of specific policy) may lead to the fear of giving the impression of racism. Even if some Americans are racist, most of that small subset certainly do not want to define themselves that way. The media feeds that fear constantly (see recent "Tea Party" = "white power" comments from various talking heads).

A related dynamic is responsible for the dumb chick with the huge boobs and nice a** keeping the job she cannot perform properly - her coworkers like having her around because of the way she makes them feel about themselves.

I admit to being comforted by the fact that Americans did not dismiss outright a candidate because of his skin tone, while at the same time I fear large numbers of Americans voted for him because of the image they wanted to project to eachother and to the world (in part contingent upon said skin tone).

Obama's popularity is predicated upon his image, not his policies - this is the main reason direct media exposure is being used to promulgate the Democrats' message. The GOP needs to divorce Obama the person from his policies, and attack said policies. Hammer the policies, link the policies to Democrats, and remain vague/indifferent to Obama the man. Make it emotionally safe for independents to oppose Obama's policies while still "liking" Obama.

41 posted on 05/11/2009 12:52:27 PM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: Sir Gawain

But Bush wasn’t a conservative on anything but social and foreign policy issues.

You’re correct in stating that President Bush wasn’t much of a strong, morally sound fiscal conservative. The Dems did their part to dismantle any standing since 2001.
The only solace I have is that we had eight years to prepare, because if AlGore would have won in 2000, it would have been just like it is now.


42 posted on 05/11/2009 12:54:28 PM PDT by griswold3 (a good story is more compelling than the search for truth)
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To: libscum
why are 0’s poll numbers still high ?

Something isn't right there. Do you sense it?
The media needs chaos in order to fill their 24 hour news slots. In my opinion, they create the news when they have none. Keeping people on edge keeps then tuning in.
It's hard to get real news these days. It's like 24 hour spin.

43 posted on 05/11/2009 12:56:56 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
“Independent voters believed Candidate Obama when he said he would be mainstream. Their trusting votes gave him a narrow victory,”

Traitors .Communist Lackeys their protest symbolic vote and Acorn vote Fraud put the Communists in power..

If these people are that dam stupid not to see his past record then they should NOT be voting.

44 posted on 05/11/2009 1:01:55 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Sir Gawain

“What’s worse is that Bush could’ve followed the Obama playbook and rammed through every single piece of conservative legislation in the first 100 days. “

In 2001, we had 50 senators plus Cheney. Then Jeffords jumped and we did not even have 50, let alone the 60 you need.

The dems had 58 and if franken gets in, they got 59 and with spectre, they get to 60.


45 posted on 05/11/2009 1:16:15 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: April Lexington
Right on, sister. I've always equated independents with reeds blowing in the wind. No backbone. I contend the moderates should leave the GOP since they are the ones who have a problem. They can call themselves the Do-Nothings.

I can't go along with taking voting rights back to lords and peasants, but I sure do think that while you are on government assistance or your kids are in foster care you shouldn't be able to vote, just the same as felons are not allowed to vote, because you are no longer a contributing member of society. It's a clear conflict of interest, just like Congress voting themselves raises, which also has to stop.

46 posted on 05/11/2009 1:24:21 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Obama is going through the country like flu through Mexico)
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To: bamahead
I've *learned* the Libertarian Party USA is where true liberty loving Americans may find a real home.

Unfortunately, liberty scares more people then would admit.
What's worse than their fear(s) are their leaders.

Their leaders --D and R-- hold liberty in the highest contempt, have and do everything and anything in their power to subvert all the Republic once stood for.

Mine isn't an accusation, mine's a reading of what they've done -- all the proof one needs is what we see, today.

One day, God willing, there'll be an awakening. I want to be a part of that event. It'll be where the proverbial rubber finally meets the road for many.

47 posted on 05/11/2009 1:25:08 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: americanophile

Forgive if this is a repeat but WTH did these dopes think they were going to get when THEY voted him in? Buyers’ remorse IS NOT ALLOWED! Because of the Messiah’s “charisma”, these idiots bought into his lies and screwed the whole country. NOW they poll differently - too damn bad...


48 posted on 05/12/2009 6:59:00 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Dan(9698)
No the left's agenda is:

I want to exercise total control over everyone's lives, using everyone else's money to finance my agenda.

The Repub agenda is:

I want to go along with the left, as long as they cut us in on some of their crumbs.

Assuming that all the Libertarians want to do is smoke pot (which is nothing more than a stereotype, as well as an ad hominen attack on the part of those who can't rebut their arguments), the question is: in the end, whose agenda as stated above is most harmful for the country?

49 posted on 05/12/2009 7:52:46 AM PDT by Emile ("If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" -- Unknown)
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To: Emile
who can't rebut their arguments

It is hard to rebut the truth.

Only Obama can

50 posted on 05/12/2009 8:00:57 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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