Posted on 05/08/2009 9:12:19 PM PDT by lonestar67
Earlier This Month, The President Announced He Will Propose A Balanced Budget. On February 5, the Administration will present its five-year budget proposal. The President's budget will reduce the deficit over the next five years and produce a balanced budget by 2012. The Budget will achieve balance while addressing the Nation's most critical needs, including support for the Global War on Terror and sustaining the strength of our economy through permanent tax relief.
The President's Tax Relief Has Spurred Robust Economic Growth, Millions Of Jobs, And Rising Wages.
A Strong U.S. Economy Is Fueling Higher Tax Revenues. Tax revenues rose 11.8 percent in 2006 following a 14.6 percent increase in 2005. Receipts have increased nearly 35 percent since the tax relief was fully implemented in 2003, and 70 percent of the reduction in the deficit last year was attributable to increased tax revenues.
The Deficit Has Been Cut In Half Three Years Ahead Of The President's 2009 Goal. Historic revenue growth and a continued commitment to spending restraint contributed to this reduction.
Better Spending Restraint Is Necessary To Help Achieve A Balanced Budget. While funding the Nation's priorities, we must keep spending under control. That means restraining spending growth, doing more with less, and eliminating programs that are not getting the job done.
(Excerpt) Read more at georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov ...
1. Its anti constitutional and refuses to hold Congress accountable as the proper primary agent.
2. Bush reduced the deficit in several of his years in office-- particularly those after the tax cuts were in full effect and prior to the current recession of 2008.
3. Bush held the growth of non discretionary non security related spending to less than 1 percent. That is parsing a lot, but those are conservative parsings that emphasize security.
4. Bush pushed for earmark transparency that began the process of accountability for stopping this process. Without it it would remain anonymous.
5. Bush Tarp plan had a 5% payback for taxpayers.
6. Bush spent only half of his tarp plan
7. Bush tax cuts did increase revenue to the government by 35%
8. The economy and the budget worsened profoundly after the Democrats won control of Congress in 2006. This is consistently ignored.
9. Bush spent a lot of money defending US citizens at HOME and abroad. That was money well spent and intrinsic to a conservative zeal for government. Conservatives are not anarchists who want an end to government. They want government to fulfill consitutional roles. Security is central to that conservative concept.
Deflecting responsibility to the Congress...yet neglecting the responsibility of the executive to use the veto pen as a check on Congressional power.
5. Bush Tarp plan had a 5% payback for taxpayers.
TARP was--and still is--unconstitutional.
6. Bush spent only half of his tarp plan
So?
Security is central to that conservative concept.
I just want to point out that, in general, there is a very fine line between "security" and a police or nanny state.
I told you lone-bushbot was working for Bush. Would you like a job like his? To convince us of what his post says? Talk about swimming upstream!
I object to you defining me as BDS because I disagree with every one of the phony Bush points you list. Get real. All smoke and mirrors.
Most of the nine points listed are facts.
You may draw different inferences from the facts but they remain facts.
If you deny facts then I think it is BDS.
News, maybe you should have also listed it as breaking!!!!
What f’ing crap. Every single point. Do you work for Jeb Bush or somethin’. You lay out thesis’s. All incorrect. None of em facts. Been through this with you before. Got better things to do. Adios amigo!
They are slightly milder than the ones taken to exalt Reagan as a conservative standard bearer.
Reagan did veto more. He did not reduce spending more than Bush.
The refusal of Conservatives to celebrate the conservative elements of Bush’s two terms is part of the anti-conservative mindset that dominates are country.
The irrational nostalgia for Reagan [whom I do actually admire greatly], must provoke us to do the hard work of justifying the conservative elements of Bush’s legacy— whatever they may be.
Bush’s final budget proposal would balance the budget by 2012— something he was ahead of schedule to do by 2009 except for the recession. The current Obama budget is radically beyond any of the budgets designed by Bush. pretending that it is all the same is again part of an intrinsic anti conservative mindset which has infected all of us— sadly including too many conservatives.
Bush is in the top 10 greatest Presidents ever.
Did I mention that President Bush also liked Mexicans Amigo?
:)
Welcome to the Outer Limits.
You speak the truth.
Reagan was a great president. One of the top five, at least.
Bush, was nothing more and nothing less than a closet liberal. I don't go for the old who are you going to believe me are your lying eyes, BS.
This is hardly ever discussed.
I believe that a lot of the damage happened AFTER the Dems took Congress in '06 is no coincidence. They WANTED to smash the economy and blame Bush for a reason. To get what they have today. The WH and Congress.
One veto? That's the best you can come up with?
By spending just half of TARP 1, Bush showed fiscal restraint.
Excuse me?
Wasteful and unconstitutional spending is flat out wrong, whether it's just one dollar or one trillion dollars.
Bush had to do something.
No, he had to do the right thing: defend and protect the Constitution.
Unfortunately for young'uns like me, he did the wrong thing.
He made a deal with the globalist bankers.
In regard to security, terrorists really did hit US soil on 911. It was the first such attack on US soil since the Civil War. Thousands of lives were lost. Those radical still seek to annihilate our way of life.
As opposed to the hundreds of thousands murdered by illegal aliens because Bush failed to enforce immigration law and protect our borders?
The incursions on our liberty were actually lower than any other war we have fought.
Tell that to this boy.
Oh, and while you're at it, tell us exactly why "fusion centers" are necessary to fight terrorism. You know, justify the Government's need to build and maintain profiles of law-abiding United States citizens using private and public record-gathering and retention capabilities.
The fact that we have not had another attack since then has mislead you to your present mental condition.
Mental condition? What the foo are you smoking?
I simply refuted your points, and you responded with a personal attack...typical of a classless brainwashed Bushbot, eh?
You could very well be right.
Sure. More than $50 Billion sent to Africa to fight Aids.
That’s really fiscally conservative.
All his other tax cuts (mostly the rebates) were utter failures, and gave tax cuts a bad reputation. He left the GOP and the country in a shambles that led to the most liberal senator being elected president.
There is a difference though if you are a Bill Clinton and leave our country wide open for a terrorist attack that leaves at least 3000 dead Americans, a recession, a downsized military and a Intellegence Service demoralized and budget cut. That's just a small list of Clinton failures, but no one hated him or placed blame on Clinton, a democrat.
Don't worry about it, history on Bush is yet to be written.
President Bush is a good man and loves this country. I think now we have in power what we as a nation deserve.
#18
Carter
Clinton
Bush Senior
Obama
W is less conservative than those three?
If you cannot understand how W is definitely more conservative than those four then you do suffer from BDS.
I don’t disagree with Reagan being top 5. But at that point in time conservatives were willing to pick Reagan out of the intellectual trash heap and defend him.
President Bush defended this nation like few Presidents ever have, we ought to defend him against the unpatriotic lot that smeared him. It is completely fine to disagree on various points but the 100% flushing of his Presidency by “conservatives” does not sit well with me.
When Reagan died, I knew people who opened champagne to celebrate. The man was hated by many people— especially where I was in academia.
I have no doubt W has gotten a raw deal from the same crowd but I sense some spinelessness in the right of 2009 when it comes to W.
Let’s pretend that W = O and then argue we want a perfect Conservative.
Pretending that Reagan did not do amnesty and did not appoint Sandra Day O Connor among his chief blunders is fine because we accentuate those parts of conservative thinking and speech that we want today. W deserves to have the conservative components of his legacy defended.
Exactly!
You got to really wonder if Lone-bush-bot is completely imbalanced to post this nonsense. Growth, rising wages, economic growth, tax receipts ?? You really would have to be delusional to think that is what GWB left us with. No one here but Lone-bush-bot posts crazy stuff like this now.
The Bushbots are delusional. But hey, could you expect anything less from brainwashed zealots? To them, Republicans get the credit for everything good, while the Democrats are always to blame.
I see things differently: both RINOs and Democrats are to blame for the economic crash. Throw them out in 2010!
I don’t think facts matter to you. I think attitude does. If facts intersest you:
... improvements from the vetoed bill. Thus, the President’s senior advisors would recommend that he veto this revised bill if it were presented to him in its current form. We ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/106-1/ HR3064-h.html- 7.5KB - Bush Whitehouse
S 1692 — 10/20/99
... 10, 1997, respectively. The President will veto S. 1692 for the reasons he expressed in ... for the reasons he expressed in his veto message of April 10, 1996, which is ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/106-1/ S1692-s.html- 7.0KB - Bush Whitehouse
HR 1122 — 05/14/97
... April 10, 1996. The President will veto H.R. 1122 for the reasons he expressed ... for the reasons he expressed in his veto message of April 10, 1996, which is ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/105-1/ HR1122-s.html- 6.9KB - Bush Whitehouse
S 625 — 11/08/99
... enforce pension law, he will veto it. ... the President indicated that he would veto it. The Administration’s position on ... to S. 625, the President will veto the bill. The ...
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/omb/legislative/sap/106-1/ S625-s.html- 11.0KB - Bush Whitehouse
HR 3660 — 04/03/2000
... 10, 1997, respectively. The President will veto H.R. 3660 for the reasons he expressed ... for the reasons he expressed in his veto messages of April 10, 1996, and October ...
Bush did not make a deal with globalist bankers. In fact, the globalist bankers were in on tanking the US economy for the election. Soros, Buffet, the Dems were all in this group and Bush saved us all from a much worse annihilation of the financial sector.
You are absolutely making stuff up on murders by illegal immigrants. I will leave that one there for now.
The world you fear will come to you now mutliplied. Obama and the Democrats will watch you very closely.
Poliitics is not philosophy. You would do well to see the difference.
Nice try rabscuttle.
Dems RINOS do deserve blame.
Do my posts say support Republicans. They don’t do they.
You are now evading the point. Are we going to defend the conservative aspects of Bush’s legacy?
The Republicans in Congress did do a poor job. In particular, Senate Republicans were horrible. That’s why I lead with point 1. Constitution says Congress does the budget.
Bush’s efforts on budget transparency were important to make this accountability possilble.
His executive instruction to not enforce spending earmarks not voted on by Congress reduced spending in a significant way even though the budget never showed that. That move was among the many shamed executive signing agreements that Bush did to help us Conservatives.
That action allowed agencies not to fund makrs earmarks.
well said.
Ah, your post says it all. An acedemic. If I don’t agree with all your erronious points, I am BDS. Namecalling in the true leftist acedemic vein. You say you respect Reagan, and in the next sentence, trash him. You should be teaching at Berkley, pal. You’ve got their methodoligy down pat. Fortunately, I live in the real world, and by noon, chew guys like you up and spit them out. Learned this skill in college listening to my “betters” tell me how to think. Not buying. Picked up lots of wisdom here on this site, but your post is manipulative claptrap.
Links to bills from 1999 and earlier, from the times before Bush was first elected in 2000? Sorry, no sale.
Bush did not make a deal with globalist bankers...and Bush saved us all from a much worse annihilation of the financial sector.
Ah yes, Bush is your savior.
He took money from America's youngest citizens to feed to the globalist bankers at Citi, BofA, Goldman, and other financial institutions.
Either a deal was made, or Bush was just plain stupid and incompetent in handing over money voluntarily.
You are absolutely making stuff up on murders by illegal immigrants.
Bullsh*t.
Example #1:
2006: One week after he slammed his Nissan Sentra into a car waiting at a stoplight, killing a U.S. Marine and his female passenger, Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano, whose blood alcohol level was measured at .32 – four times the legal level in Maryland for intoxication – has been identified as an illegal immigrant by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office in Baltimore.
Marine Cpl. Brian Mathews, 21, of Columbia and his date, Jennifer Bower, 24, of Montgomery Village were killed Thanksgiving night, shortly after 10:00 p.m. when Bower's Toyota Corolla was hit from behind by Morales-Soriano, 25, of Mexico. Mathews and Bower were on their second date and were planning to take part in the June wedding of friends who had introduced them to each other.> (source)
Example #2:
2005: On October 4, 2005 WKMG television in Florida reported on their website that fourteen "field laborers broke into an 18-year-old woman's home, dragged her across the street and then took turns raping her."
This rampaging gang of "field laborers" consisted of men ranging in age from 18 to 56. The victim reported they choked her until she passed out. When she awoke, they were pouring alcohol in her mouth. She was then raped by each and every one of them.
When these animals finished they pushed her out the front door like a piece of used meat. Somehow this girl managed to get to a phone where she called the police. Deputies arrested the 14 men who were still at the house where the rape occurred. They will be charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, and sexual battery by multiple perpetrators. They face life in prison if convicted.
Not until we get to the end of the WKMG website story is the fact that the rapists aren't just "farm laborers." Indeed, they are all illegal aliens. Only at the end of their story do we learn: "Twelve of the men are from Guatemala, one from Puerto Rico and the other from Mexico." (source)
Why don't you do conservatives a favor and stop defending treasonous RINOs and their pet illegal alien invaders, Bushbot.
Poliitics is not philosophy. You would do well to see the difference.
Bushbots: "OMG only Republicans can save you! Bush is our savior! Without him, you are nothing! OMG I love him so much. I worship him as the best president ever!!!11" /sarc
You're right. Politics is not philosophy. Politics is the exercise of power, while philosophy gives a rationale for that exercise of power. Without philosophy, without a genuinely Constitutional and conservatarian ideology, politics is soulless, relativistic, and tyrannical.
Since when is Big Government more "conservative"?
Take this, stuff it in your proverbial pipe, and inhale deeply.
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001...While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001. (source)
And those statistics are current as of November 2006! That's almost *three* years ago.
But hey, according to RINOs like you, your savior Bush, and the pathetic McCain, illegals are just "God's children," ordinary United States citizens are just collateral damage in the globalist quest, and anyone who dares to dissent has a "mental condition."
The rest of your post is senseless wondering.
One thousand percent correct!!!
All of which was fake, he gave the US 4.50 a gallon gas and 14+++ million un-sold homes and millions more to be foreclosed on. And a never ending bailout. What damn robust economic growth, it was all fake!!!! I was in Georgia today, and drove by a home that had all it's contents scattered about the yard. That is where the deputies left it, picked over by buzzards like a dead animal.
I understand the frustration sometimes but what info do you have behind this statement?
Many years ago I bought a house at foreclosure and the bank had to have the people moved out. I never bought another foreclosure that had people living in it. And I have bough many of them!!!
I have seen them all my life.
What color is the sky in your world?
One has to only think of the massively expansive, horrendously expensive federal power grab that was No Child Left Behind, which President Bush supported and happily signed onto, to understand that your premise is wrong.
No amount of post-game whitewashing will ever make that mess right.
Was Reagan a RINO?
| Table F-1. | |||||||||||||||
| Revenues, Outlays, Surpluses, Deficits, and Debt Held by the Public, 1969 to 2008 | |||||||||||||||
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| Deficit (-) or Surplus |
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| On- | Social | Postal |
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| Revenues | Outlays | Budget | Security | Service | Total |
the Publica
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| 1969 | 186.9 | 183.6 | -0.5 | 3.7 |
n.a.
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3.2 | 278.1 | ||||||||
| 1970 | 192.8 | 195.6 | -8.7 | 5.9 |
n.a.
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-2.8 | 283.2 | ||||||||
| 1971 | 187.1 | 210.2 | -26.1 | 3.0 |
n.a.
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-23.0 | 303.0 | ||||||||
| 1972 | 207.3 | 230.7 | -26.1 | 3.1 | -0.4 | -23.4 | 322.4 | ||||||||
| 1973 | 230.8 | 245.7 | -15.2 | 0.5 | -0.2 | -14.9 | 340.9 | ||||||||
| 1974 | 263.2 | 269.4 | -7.2 | 1.8 | -0.8 | -6.1 | 343.7 | ||||||||
| 1975 | 279.1 | 332.3 | -54.1 | 2.0 | -1.1 | -53.2 | 394.7 | ||||||||
| 1976 | 298.1 | 371.8 | -69.4 | -3.2 | -1.1 | -73.7 | 477.4 | ||||||||
| 1977 | 355.6 | 409.2 | -49.9 | -3.9 | 0.2 | -53.7 | 549.1 | ||||||||
| 1978 | 399.6 | 458.7 | -55.4 | -4.3 | 0.5 | -59.2 | 607.1 | ||||||||
| 1979 | 463.3 | 504.0 | -39.6 | -2.0 | 0.9 | -40.7 | 640.3 | ||||||||
| 1980 | 517.1 | 590.9 | -73.1 | -1.1 | 0.4 | -73.8 | 711.9 | ||||||||
| 1981 | 599.3 | 678.2 | -73.9 | -5.0 | -0.1 | -79.0 | 789.4 | ||||||||
| 1982 | 617.8 | 745.7 | -120.6 | -7.9 | 0.6 | -128.0 | 924.6 | ||||||||
| 1983 | 600.6 | 808.4 | -207.7 | 0.2 | -0.3 | -207.8 | 1,137.3 | ||||||||
| 1984 | 666.5 | 851.9 | -185.3 | 0.3 | -0.4 | -185.4 | 1,307.0 | ||||||||
| 1985 | 734.1 | 946.4 | -221.5 | 9.4 | -0.1 | -212.3 | 1,507.3 | ||||||||
| 1986 | 769.2 | 990.4 | -237.9 | 16.7 |
0.0
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-221.2 | 1,740.6 | ||||||||
| 1987 | 854.4 | 1,004.1 | -168.4 | 19.6 | -0.9 | -149.7 | 1,889.8 | ||||||||
| 1988 | 909.3 | 1,064.5 | -192.3 | 38.8 | -1.7 | -155.2 | 2,051.6 | ||||||||
| 1989 | 991.2 | 1,143.8 | -205.4 | 52.4 | 0.3 | -152.6 | 2,190.7 | ||||||||
| 1990 | 1,032.1 | 1,253.1 | -277.6 | 58.2 | -1.6 | -221.0 | 2,411.6 | ||||||||
| 1991 | 1,055.1 | 1,324.3 | -321.4 | 53.5 | -1.3 | -269.2 | 2,689.0 | ||||||||
| 1992 | 1,091.3 | 1,381.6 | -340.4 | 50.7 | -0.7 | -290.3 | 2,999.7 | ||||||||
| 1993 | 1,154.5 | 1,409.5 | -300.4 | 46.8 | -1.4 | -255.1 | 3,248.4 | ||||||||
| 1994 | 1,258.7 | 1,461.9 | -258.8 | 56.8 | -1.1 | -203.2 | 3,433.1 | ||||||||
| 1995 | 1,351.9 | 1,515.9 | -226.4 | 60.4 | 2.0 | -164.0 | 3,604.4 | ||||||||
| 1996 | 1,453.2 | 1,560.6 | -174.0 | 66.4 | 0.2 | -107.4 | 3,734.1 | ||||||||
| 1997 | 1,579.4 | 1,601.3 | -103.2 | 81.3 |
0.0
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-21.9 | 3,772.3 | ||||||||
| 1998 | 1,722.0 | 1,652.7 | -29.9 | 99.4 | -0.2 | 69.3 | 3,721.1 | ||||||||
| 1999 | 1,827.6 | 1,702.0 | 1.9 | 124.7 | -1.0 | 125.6 | 3,632.4 | ||||||||
| 2000 | 2,025.5 | 1,789.2 | 86.4 | 151.8 | -2.0 | 236.2 | 3,409.8 | ||||||||
| 2001 | 1,991.4 | 1,863.2 | -32.4 | 163.0 | -2.3 | 128.2 | 3,319.6 | ||||||||
| 2002 | 1,853.4 | 2,011.2 | -317.4 | 159.0 | 0.7 | -157.8 | 3,540.4 | ||||||||
| 2003 | 1,782.5 | 2,160.1 | -538.4 | 155.6 | 5.2 | -377.6 | 3,913.4 | ||||||||
| 2004 | 1,880.3 | 2,293.0 | -568.0 | 151.1 | 4.1 | -412.7 | 4,295.5 | ||||||||
| 2005 | 2,153.9 | 2,472.2 | -493.6 | 173.5 | 1.8 | -318.3 | 4,592.2 | ||||||||
| 2006 | 2,407.3 | 2,655.4 | -434.5 | 185.2 | 1.1 | -248.2 | 4,829.0 | ||||||||
| 2007 | 2,568.2 | 2,728.9 | -342.2 | 186.5 | -5.1 | -160.7 | 5,035.1 | ||||||||
| 2008 | 2,524.3 | 2,982.9 | -641.8 | 180.8 | 2.4 | -458.5 | 5,802.7 | ||||||||
| Source: Congressional Budget Office. | |||||||||||||||
| Note: n.a. = not applicable (the Postal Service was not an independent agency until 1972); * = between -$50 million and $50 million. | |||||||||||||||
| a. End of year. | |||||||||||||||
| revised: | 4/14/09 | ||||||||||||||
I was one of Bush’s biggest fans, but in the end, he turned out amazingly similar to his father. From Day One, he looked out for his own political hide, but did nothing for the Party. A President committed to the party finds a VP who can take the reins. Cheney was great, but he wasn’t going to run for POTUS, which gave up a huge advantage. Spending was a small problem, btu his lack of will to fight was a big problem, and it magnified every other problem.
Had he stood up like Reagan, and pointed out the stupidity and treasonous disloyalty, especially after 9/11, we wouldn’t be where we are today. Had he fought the profligate spending of Republicans in Congress, there woud have been no profligate spending of Democrats in Congress.
He was a good guy, but only fought when it was his political ass on the line. When Kerry could have unseated him, he had no rules, and would stoop to any level. Once his ass was not on the line, and America hung in the balance in a battle against liberalism/marxism/treasonous pacifism, suddenly, he was too good to stoop to fighting.
In the end, by ignoring Liberalism, Bush was like Reagan would have been if Reagan invaded Beirut, and left the Soviet Empire unchecked, until it began to invade America after he left office. We need to recognize his weaknesses, and clearly, handing the country over to a Diehard Marxist/Socialist shows there was a failure somewhere. I think Reagan would have been crushed had this been the outcome of his Presidency.
Yeah, ya see so many conservatives just don't have any compassion, they're more the evil, heartless, cold type conservatives.
Sheesh.
This post is a good collection of Bush-bot Bad excuse narratives :
1)Bush tax cuts alone saved the economy (Greenspan money supply had nothing to do with it),
2) evil global bankers and Barney Frank crashed the economy Bush saved, but crash would have been worse WITHOUT Bush TARP1 (that Obama later made bad), so Bush saved us again last fall, we just dont appreciate it
3) Reagan was not perfect, dis Bush and you dis Reagan, and are not a Real conservative like him because he loves Reagan.
4) Bush had to give in to democrats for political reasons (worked great politically in 2006+2008, for DEMOCRATS),
5) Republican congress was no good, blame them instead of Bush,
6) Obama is worse than Bush,
Any others you can think of??
Here's another warm memory from my collection : December 01, 2008 :Bush tells Charlie Gibson that he came into office “unprepared for war,” and that he regrets the faulty intelligence of Saddam Hussein’s WMD
Even in his budget analysis document, he admitted the crisis was coming if he kept going the way he was.
Yeah, he sure gave us security at home, keeping the southern border WIDE open!
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