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Warning: Sunspot cycle beginning to rise
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/8/09 | AP

Posted on 05/08/2009 10:08:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON – The sun is moving into a busier period for sunspots. Forecasters expect a relatively mild outbreak by historical standards, but one major solar storm can cause havoc with satellites and electrical systems.

Researcher Doug Biesecker (BEE-sec-ker) of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's space weather prediction center compared solar storms to hurricanes: A weak cycle may mean fewer storms, but even one powerful one can be devastating.

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Just when you thought it was time to get the mukluks out..
1 posted on 05/08/2009 10:08:28 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Swine flu?...............


2 posted on 05/08/2009 10:10:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (If Keynesian economics worked, Zimbabwe would be a superpower.......................)
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Current Space Weather Conditions
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

from

NOAA/ National Weather Service
National Centers for Environmental Prediction
Space Weather Prediction Center


3 posted on 05/08/2009 10:10:45 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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not much on the Alerts Chart page

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/alerts/alerts_timeline.html


4 posted on 05/08/2009 10:12:04 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON – The sun is moving into a busier period for sunspots.

Compared to "Zero"?

5 posted on 05/08/2009 10:12:24 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: NormsRevenge
May 8th No Sunspots... On May 5th and 6th, magnetic fields in the vicinity of these regions erupted, hurling at least three coronal mass ejections (CMEs) into space. Since then, no explosions have been observed. The sunspots probably located at the base of these active regions might be in decay--or they might be regrouping for a new round of CMEs. We'll find out when the sun's rotation turns the active zone toward Earth for a better view in the days ahead. Readers with solar telescopes should train their optics on the eastern limb.
6 posted on 05/08/2009 10:13:32 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: NormsRevenge
The sun is moving into a busier period for sunspots.

It's a carbon issue.

7 posted on 05/08/2009 10:14:11 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge
We can't just stand around... we need to throw billions of dollars at this problem...

Let's get a spokesman... Oh Al? Are you busy at the moment?

8 posted on 05/08/2009 10:14:26 AM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yep, another ‘crisis’.


9 posted on 05/08/2009 10:14:44 AM PDT by poobear
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To: NormsRevenge

What is AP/Yahoo’s point in putting this article out? We are still at the bottom of Cycle 23, and Cycle 24 really hasn’t gotten started yet. (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/index.html). I’m an amateur radio operator, and the bands I use (particularly 15 & 10 meters) are heavily dependent on sunspot activity for worldwide communications. These bands are dead, and AP is talking about a solar storm? In 4 YEARS, maybe.

I bet they need something else to get the population roiling in fear, and they’re floating trial balloons like this one.


10 posted on 05/08/2009 10:14:49 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Proud to be an American, where I least I know I'm free!)
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To: NormsRevenge
http://spaceweather.com/


...still looks pretty blank to me...

11 posted on 05/08/2009 10:17:00 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I hear ya,, it’s a non-article but.. maybe this piece is just to sell more sun screen.

Good luck with the radio. we may need ya when disaster strikes.


12 posted on 05/08/2009 10:19:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: EGPWS

“A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a storm as severe as one in 1859 occurred today, it could cause $1 trillion to $2 trillion in damage the first year and require four to 10 years for recovery.”

Well, thank goodness we have dear leader and the banksters in charge. A couple of trillion is a drop in the bucket.


13 posted on 05/08/2009 10:20:12 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NormsRevenge

Global warmiing is causing an increase in sun spots. Blame Bush. Details at ten (after the Obama news conference).


14 posted on 05/08/2009 10:20:39 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: xcamel

Man, that is quiet.


15 posted on 05/08/2009 10:21:13 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Warning: Sunspot cycle beginning to rise

Warning? How long ago was the last "The sunspots are extinct and thus we are sure to DIE!!!!!" article?

Did they post a "Warning: First robin of spring sighted"?

16 posted on 05/08/2009 10:22:16 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

No. Its a grudging admission that the sun may have something to do with heat.


17 posted on 05/08/2009 10:23:26 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: SaraJohnson
...it could cause $1 trillion to $2 trillion in damage the first year and require four to 10 years for recovery.”

Nothing a printing press on a 24 hour solar day schedule can't handle.

18 posted on 05/08/2009 10:24:17 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: backwoods-engineer
I’m an amateur radio operator,

Ditto.

Some good solar news for a change!

19 posted on 05/08/2009 10:26:26 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Don’t we still have SOHO (Solar and Helioscopic Observatory) midway between the Earth and the Sun which functions as a de facto early warning?


20 posted on 05/08/2009 10:32:23 AM PDT by re_tail20
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To: backwoods-engineer
I’m an amateur radio operator,...

: - D

Like minds...

21 posted on 05/08/2009 10:33:25 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge
This report is laughable. First of all, as of today, there are NO sunspots on the sun. Secondly, it says,

"A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a storm as severe as one in 1859 occurred today, it could cause $1 trillion to $2 trillion in damage the first year and require four to 10 years for recovery."

It's all speculation...IF a storm as severe as the one in 1859 occurred today...it COULD cause...damage!

What I'm reading from this newsblurb is the AP's fervent hope that sunspots reappear so that "global warming" will pick up. Because if the sunspots don't reappear, then we may have a repeat of the Maunder Minimum and another "Little Ice Age" will be on the horizon.
22 posted on 05/08/2009 10:34:16 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: NormsRevenge
This is another false start... we are still in cycle 23.

LLS

23 posted on 05/08/2009 10:35:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds good to me and all the other Amateur Radio Ops out there!

Hoss!


24 posted on 05/08/2009 10:37:53 AM PDT by HossB86
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To: NormsRevenge

Yawn. We dealt with all of the flares LAST cycle, why are flares from this cycle expected to be bigger?

If anything new designs take into account what we learned from all the X-class flares of the ‘90s, especially for space hardware.

Plus, I don’t see much evidence that the next cycle has kicked off.

(Tinfoil will not protect your corpus callosum from flares).


25 posted on 05/08/2009 10:41:03 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Red Badger

More importantly, if we do not get sunspots this cycle I have read that we may have a winter without summer cycle again, a record busting global cooling cycle...


26 posted on 05/08/2009 10:44:26 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NormsRevenge

NOAA - “May 8 -A new active period of Earth-threatening solar storms will be the weakest since 1928 and its peak is still four years away, after a slow start last December, predicts an international panel of experts led by NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center.”

Interesting that Yahoo managed to leave this sentence out of their news report...and only included the worst sounding part of what NOAA released.


27 posted on 05/08/2009 10:45:39 AM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: Bobkk47
It's all speculation...

Isn't that enough to consider it a crisis?

28 posted on 05/08/2009 10:47:13 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: SaraJohnson
"A couple of trillion is a drop in the bucket."

Depends on the ethnicity of the residents involved.

If they need to rebuild a chocolate city, untold trillions could be involved.

If it's a vanilla city. Not a dime. Clean up your own mess.

29 posted on 05/08/2009 10:53:31 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: flash2368

I guess they didn’t think the full details were all that important. Why wreck a good story with the truth?


30 posted on 05/08/2009 10:58:57 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Warning: Sunspot cycle beginning to rise

I wonder if Al Gore wants to outlaw sunspots?

31 posted on 05/08/2009 11:00:30 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: xcamel
Didn't the National Endowment for the Arts pay a million dollars for a painting just like this?
32 posted on 05/08/2009 11:08:26 AM PDT by Never on my watch (GIMME MY FREE CHIKEN!)
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To: NormsRevenge

well CME’s are and have been happening but No sunspots,except micro ones,some of those are old cycle,so predictions from these clowns cost what? too much I am sure,I am predicting no real sunspots till 1011-12,,mini-ice age,,time to stock up on coal and wood. Of course,you will have to buy from a dealer on a street corner and only burn at night!


33 posted on 05/08/2009 11:10:30 AM PDT by coalman (type to slow to be relevant,but I try)
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To: Bobkk47

FTM, it is entirely possible we’re entering a Big Ice Age.

For the last few millions years, we’ve spend most of the time in Ice Ages, averaging roughly 100,000 years each. They are separated by interglacial periods, averaging 10,000 years each.

We’re about 11,500 years into the present interglacial.

Do your own math.


34 posted on 05/08/2009 11:10:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: NormsRevenge
No sunspots = crisis.

Sunspots = crisis.

OMG! OMG! OMG! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!

35 posted on 05/08/2009 11:13:47 AM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: flash2368

You cannot expect the unvarnished truth. What would you do wiht it if you got it?

Better let us decide for you...


36 posted on 05/08/2009 11:15:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: EGPWS

The ONLY certainty in any of this is that it’s Bush’s fault.


37 posted on 05/08/2009 11:16:00 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: 1010RD

wiht = with (in Chicago)


38 posted on 05/08/2009 11:17:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: sportutegrl

Crisis, crisis - yadda, yada

Wake me up when the Sun explodes...


39 posted on 05/08/2009 11:18:03 AM PDT by Never on my watch (GIMME MY FREE CHIKEN!)
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To: Clioman
The ONLY certainty in any of this is that it’s Bush’s fault.

And it's a crisis.

40 posted on 05/08/2009 11:18:47 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge
How strange that the short, choppy “coulda, woulda, shoulda’ article gives no evidence that even vaguely supports the headline.

Meanwhile...

Spotless Days
Current Stretch: 7 days
2009 total: 109 days (86%)
Since 2004: 620 days
Typical Solar Min: 485 days
explanation | more info
Updated 07 May 2009

41 posted on 05/08/2009 11:19:09 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (We have nothing to fear, except our fearful government itself.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Warning: Sunspot cycle beginning to rise

LOL sunspot count = ZERO
42 posted on 05/08/2009 11:21:13 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: ApplegateRanch
How strange that the short, choppy “coulda, woulda, shoulda’ article gives no evidence that even vaguely supports the headline.

Yes. You'd think they'd at least wait till the current minimum is actually and obviously over.
43 posted on 05/08/2009 11:21:53 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: EGPWS

...and only more taxation and creation of another gubermint agency will help.


44 posted on 05/08/2009 11:24:07 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ham operators the world over are rejoicing. No sun spots means very poor skip conditions. I think we are going to be in a minimum for quite some time. The leftards are pinning their hopes on this, so they can once again tout global warming, and scream “See, the sun spots are back, we are all going to die!”.


45 posted on 05/08/2009 11:26:03 AM PDT by calex59
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To: NormsRevenge

Biesecker is a PR man; check out http://wattsupwiththat.com/ for today’s problems with the official site...


46 posted on 05/08/2009 11:29:46 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Never on my watch

...Wake me when it catches fire...


47 posted on 05/08/2009 11:34:12 AM PDT by gargoyle (...66.7% , A good round number...)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
...and only more taxation and creation of another gubermint agency will help.

Evil companies spurred on by freedom and greed need to be stifled and government needs to take charge for the betterment of humankind.

It's best for us as a whole..

48 posted on 05/08/2009 11:34:50 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: LasVegasMac

I got some short propagation from Alberta to Wa. on 10m last weekend.


49 posted on 05/08/2009 11:36:39 AM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: sportutegrl
OMG! OMG! OMG! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!

Trust me, as EGPWS, I place my namesake on the guarantee that your statement is 100% correct. ; )

50 posted on 05/08/2009 11:39:13 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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