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EFFORT BY McCAIN, OBAMA, McCASKILL, LEAHY, CLINTON AND COBURN TO CIRCUMVENT US CONSTITUTION
The Huffington Riposte | Saturday, January 17, 2009

Posted on 05/07/2009 9:22:25 PM PDT by ckilmer

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To: calcowgirl

Wow, that is interesting. Thanks for pointing me to that. You dig up such interesting stuff in your research.


41 posted on 05/08/2009 12:44:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye

I hadn’t read it before and I was just chuckling at all the comments here because it was obvious no one else had read it either. I figured you’d be interested — being a fellow truthseeker and all. :-)


42 posted on 05/08/2009 12:58:22 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: calcowgirl

I am interested. At this hour my eyes are so tired I tend to skip links. I’ll have to come back and read it tomorrow.


43 posted on 05/08/2009 1:05:55 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye; Arguendo
McCain was born on the Naval submarine base. Here's a link to the birth announcement in the Panamanian paper, originally posted by the WaPo (it's on the second page of the pdf file).

McCain Birth Announcement

The birth certificate submitted with the Hollister v. McCain lawsuit, which states he was born in Colon, is a forgery.

I agree with Arguendo that it's a moot point either way.

44 posted on 05/08/2009 1:38:25 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: TigersEye

The facts that matter are his parents are both American citizens, and their reason for being abroad were military service of our country. And “rule” that focuses on other facts (like the “fact” that he happened to be born in a Panamanian hospital) leads, as I already pointed out to an obviously absurd result and has rightly been disregarded for our country’s entire history.

I don’t know why I’m even arguing with you. This is obviously irrelevant, and people who focus on it are rightly seen as kooks.


45 posted on 05/08/2009 6:18:19 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo
There isn't any argument. You made a false statement and I corrected it. I didn't say anything about what it does or does not mean.

I already pointed out to an obviously absurd result and has rightly been disregarded for our country’s entire history.

Now that you bring it up give one example where it has been ignored. Or is that just more bull you're slinging off the top of your head?

46 posted on 05/08/2009 9:24:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: browardchad; calcowgirl
You are accepting the birth announcement in the newspaper over the BC? And furthermore you are claiming that McCain forged his BC too? LOL

I agree with Arguendo that it's a moot point either way.

That's your opinion. I didn't make a point about it either way.

47 posted on 05/08/2009 9:27:47 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye

That fact was tangential to my main point. When you corrected it, I said it still didn’t matter since my main point stood, and responded with some snide comment implying that I was ignoring all facts.

If you want one example of where some people raised the objection and no one cared, look at the case of Chester Arthur.

But go live in your fantasyland where people like you are actually relevant if you want.


48 posted on 05/08/2009 9:54:27 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: ckilmer

I’m gonna do my damndest to see that McKaskill is not re-elected.


49 posted on 05/08/2009 9:59:15 AM PDT by demsux
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To: TigersEye

The whole thing makes it look like McCain was totally snookered.


50 posted on 05/08/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
Not entirely. It would appear that McCain has real problems regarding a claim to 'natural born citizen' status. The Canal Zone was neither 'in the United States' nor 'outside the jurisdiction of the United States' and that statute law at the time had no provision for that unusual circumstance.
51 posted on 05/08/2009 10:51:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Arguendo
...and responded with some snide comment implying that I was ignoring all facts.

No I didn't. I didn't even imply that.

52 posted on 05/08/2009 10:52:55 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2246688/posts?page=38#38
53 posted on 05/08/2009 10:59:31 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo

What is your point? That was very specific to your false assertion. It in no way can be inferred to include “all facts.” That is just a baseless assumption you made to create a straw man.


54 posted on 05/08/2009 11:05:09 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye

Yeah, obviously. /s

As I said, go live in your fantasyland where your arguments matter.


55 posted on 05/08/2009 11:10:05 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: Arguendo

Take your straw man arguments and retire. You’re finished here.


56 posted on 05/08/2009 11:17:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
You are accepting the birth announcement in the newspaper over the BC? And furthermore you are claiming that McCain forged his BC too? LOL

That's right -- everything's a conspiracy! The Panamanian newspaper of  70+ years ago -- a conspiracy!

McCain forged his own birth certificate!  Eleventy!!!!!

Why ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory with reality?

57 posted on 05/08/2009 3:55:56 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad
You're the one who said he forged his BC. Apparently that is easier than forging an old newspaper. /s

Of course rational people realize that newspaper announcements aren't
researched articles and the people who write them aren't senior editors.

58 posted on 05/08/2009 4:37:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: ckilmer

obumpa


59 posted on 05/08/2009 10:42:19 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Arguendo

“How does John McCain fail to meet this definition? He was clearly born within the jurisdiction of the United States (on a Naval base) even if he was not born on US soil.”

The hospital he is alleged to have been born at was built 5 years after he was born. He was very likely born 1 mile away at Amador Guerrero Hospital in Colon. It is a walk across the park, but it isn’t the Canal Zone.


60 posted on 05/14/2009 10:09:10 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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