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Chris Simcox wants to dethrone McCain [McCainiacs bashing Simcox]
Politico ^ | 2009-05-04 | David Cantanese

Posted on 05/04/2009 10:58:22 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Many Arizona conservatives would like nothing more than to see Sen. John McCain knocked off in a Republican primary.

But few of them think Chris Simcox, the controversial founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps who recently announced he would challenge McCain, is a serious threat to do it.

Despite Simcox’s high-profile leadership on illegal immigration on the state’s southern border — a potent issue in the state’s Republican primary — party insiders say the 48-year-old former grade school teacher carries a heavy load of personal baggage and faces ample skepticism from rank-and-file Republican voters.

“I’m very unhappy with Sen. McCain. He’s pretty much spit in our eye,” said Dennis Durband, a conservative activist and editor of a website called The Arizona Conservative. “But I really don’t think [Simcox] is going to get any serious traction. There’s so much baggage in his past.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2010; aliens; amnesty; az2010; juanmccain; lettuce; mcbama; mccain; mccaintruthfile; mcqueeg; noamnestyformccainj; rino; rinoextinction; rinopurge; shamnesty; simcox; traitorousbastard
Potentially more damaging is Simcox’s portrayal in a 2005 Southern Poverty Law Center report that draws on court documents from a previous marriage to paint him as “drastic, violent and dangerous.”

The SPLC really ought to stop confusing McCain with Simcox.

“Simcox’s timing is a little off. Arizona is one of the least diversified economies in the country. We’re swimming in red ink. Who is picking Arizona’s lettuce is not as big an issue anymore,” DeMenna said.

Aw. How cute. Now that we have a recession, Americans will pick lettuce for less than $50/hour too!

“I think McCain’s a disgrace,” said Haney. “He’s not straight talk. He’s fork-tongued talk.”


1 posted on 05/04/2009 10:58:23 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 05/04/2009 10:59:12 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

So, are we going to see the RINO-loving GOP leadership rally around the RINO that is McCain, similar to what they’re trying to do in Pennsylvania?

Will this EVER end???? WAKE UP, GOP!!!! RINOs ARE NOT THE ANSWER!!!!


3 posted on 05/04/2009 11:01:58 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: TADSLOS; cripplecreek; TigersEye

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4 posted on 05/04/2009 11:03:10 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385
party insiders say the 48-year-old former grade school teacher carries a heavy load of personal baggage and faces ample skepticism from rank-and-file Republican voters.

They've got it backwards. McCain has a heavy load of personal baggage and faces ample skepticism from rank and file voters. For that matter, the "party insiders" have pretty much lost faith with rank and file Repub voters.

I put McCain in the same league with Specter. If that is what party insiders think is a Republican, we need new party insiders.

5 posted on 05/04/2009 11:03:25 AM PDT by marron
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To: rabscuttle385

I have some doubt about Simcox, to be honest. I have no doubts about McCain.

McCain must go, but there has to be a competent horse to run against him.

Conservative Arizona Republicans, please find someone to rid us of McCain. He’s not just screwing your state, unfortunately.


6 posted on 05/04/2009 11:05:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: rabscuttle385; meandog
Meandog, what you say about Simcox?

I say more power to Simcox...I'm sending money to him too.

7 posted on 05/04/2009 11:05:06 AM PDT by lormand ("Janet Napolitano should resign or be fired." - Congressman John Carter - My Congresscritter)
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To: marron

“party insiders say the 48-year-old former grade school teacher carries a heavy load of personal baggage and faces ample skepticism from rank-and-file Republican voters.”

And by ‘party insiders’ we,of course, mean The Politico/Wash Post writers and editors.


8 posted on 05/04/2009 11:06:46 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I kinda didn’t know there were any “McCainiacs”, besides Lindsay Grahamnesty, Cindy and Meghan. I thought he was the default guy.

This is disturbing.


9 posted on 05/04/2009 11:10:36 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Carl LaFong

How long before McCain sees the internal Poll numbers and switches parties?

Let’s start a pool I take 9/11/09.


10 posted on 05/04/2009 11:11:00 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: rabscuttle385
But few of them think Chris Simcox, the controversial founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps who recently announced he would challenge McCain, is a serious threat to do it.

Not an Arizonan, but I sure hope they find some true conservative alternative to Juan McCain. Simcox probably isn't the one, and I'm still hoping for J. D. Hayworth, or maybe some capable conservative in Arizona I've never heard of.

11 posted on 05/04/2009 11:14:51 AM PDT by Will88
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To: DoughtyOne
I've got some questions about Simcox too, but until he gets into a "my friend-off" competition with Mac, he's got my vote.

It's well Past time for John to call it day and, like, Totally take like, Meghan With Him!

12 posted on 05/04/2009 11:16:46 AM PDT by TeddyConAZ
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To: TeddyConAZ

My first inclination was to support Simcox. Then someone I respect mentioned that he wasn’t too good beyond the border issue.

We need someone who is a died in the wool Conservative. I want it to come from the heart, and I want their actions to indicate that across the board.

When our illustrious (C) [supposedly] presidents/senators/congressmen do things like support leftist policy without knowing, it’s even more destructive than when the Democrats do it. It destroys our brand.

McCain has got to go. I am desperately hoping there is someone out there who knows what the Conservative stance on most issues should be, and agrees with it.


13 posted on 05/04/2009 11:23:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: rabscuttle385

John McLaim is a republican as Arlen Specter is..


14 posted on 05/04/2009 11:23:41 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: DoughtyOne
I have the same concerns relative to Simcox, which is why I'd Really like to see Jeff Flake challenge Mac.

I doubt That will happen though. So Simcox is the guy, for the moment.

15 posted on 05/04/2009 11:32:51 AM PDT by TeddyConAZ
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To: TeddyConAZ

Someone seems to be mounting a “draft Arpaio” effort. What are the objections to Sheriff Joe?


16 posted on 05/04/2009 11:43:57 AM PDT by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain absolutely has to be thrown out but I think there may be better alternatives than Simcox.


17 posted on 05/04/2009 11:48:18 AM PDT by Wil H (The most destructive act of Muslim terrorism against the US was paying for 0bama's Harvard education)
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To: rabscuttle385

That article had a lot of different Arizona GOP and conservative leaders quoted. A lot ofthe are no way McCainiacs. Simcox is not an ideal candidate. Pointing that out does not make someone a McCainiac. That said, if no other serious conservative (Hayworth, Arpaio, Flake) steps up, Simcox will get the conservative money and votes.


18 posted on 05/04/2009 11:50:31 AM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

What about JD Hayworth?


19 posted on 05/04/2009 11:52:08 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: rabscuttle385

It is past time for the current generation of GOP career politicians to GO!

They have aided an abetted the Rats in the near (an probably inevitable) destruction of this once-great Nation.


20 posted on 05/04/2009 11:55:28 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: azcap
That article had a lot of different Arizona GOP and conservative leaders quoted. A lot ofthe are no way McCainiacs. Simcox is not an ideal candidate. Pointing that out does not make someone a McCainiac. That said, if no other serious conservative (Hayworth, Arpaio, Flake) steps up, Simcox will get the conservative money and votes.

That is good news indeed as we all know for sure what McCain is and he definitely needs to go!

21 posted on 05/04/2009 11:55:31 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: ducdriver
What are the objections to Sheriff Joe?

Well, who would take his place as Sheriff? He has the largest posse in the country, and the toughest jails.

22 posted on 05/04/2009 12:00:08 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: ducdriver
None From Me! If Only! That's an ACORN-La Raza hybrid group objecting to his doing the job too well. He's a "Racist" etc., etc., etc.

He doesn't seem to want the job of Senator either though. He's happy just being the County Sheriff.

Btw, Mayor Gordon and those "activists" got their answer from his troops. It's posted on YouTube.

Maricopa County Sheriff's Office: Mayor Gordon, You're ignorant! Shut up!

23 posted on 05/04/2009 12:01:49 PM PDT by TeddyConAZ
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To: itsahoot

That’s an excellent point, but isn’t he bumping up against a term limit? I don’t know, but I think I heard that a few weeks ago.


24 posted on 05/04/2009 12:05:41 PM PDT by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: TeddyConAZ

No serious person thinks Arpaio is racist. Anybody who listens to La Raza or ACORN (American Communist Obama Reelection Network) is foolish. But they sure do get the coverage, don’t they. I can barely stand to turn on the tv anymore, they are so non-serious, giggling at superficial things while the arsonists are setting fire to our country and culture.

As for Simcox, there seems to be little known about him so far. His treatment at Columbia surely does recommend him, though.


25 posted on 05/04/2009 12:15:41 PM PDT by ducdriver (judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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To: TeddyConAZ

I understand. Can’t argue with that.


26 posted on 05/04/2009 12:35:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: DoughtyOne
So good it needs to be said again.

Conservative Arizona Republicans, please find someone to rid us of McCain. He’s not just screwing your state, unfortunately.
27 posted on 05/04/2009 12:35:57 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: rabscuttle385
What exactly are these McCain Talking points these Stooges are trying to peddle here? Gods Children? Zero is nothing to be afraid of? The guy has sat in the Senate a lifetime being a Democrat.

Him and Bush set the wheels in motion for this takeover of the government.

28 posted on 05/04/2009 12:37:23 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: rabscuttle385

In 2010, I’m for whoever is running against the RINOs.


29 posted on 05/04/2009 12:38:36 PM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I have liked what I have seen of him, but it has been a while since I’ve seen him much, so I don’t want to be unequivocal about it. My inclination is to say that I have seen some good instincts from him, but I don’t know how deep they run.


30 posted on 05/04/2009 12:39:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Baggage” only disqualifies conservatives. It does not disqualify the likes of Franken.


31 posted on 05/04/2009 12:42:33 PM PDT by Lets Be Frank
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To: rabscuttle385
"I’m very unhappy with Sen. McCain. He’s pretty much spit in our eye," said Dennis Durband, a conservative activist and editor of a website called The Arizona Conservative. "But I really don’t think [Simcox] is going to get any serious traction. There’s so much baggage in his past."

This guys got it just about right.

If Simcox is his opponent, it proves McCain is living a charmed political life.

32 posted on 05/04/2009 12:44:53 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: presently no screen name

Thanks. No doubt about it.


33 posted on 05/04/2009 12:45:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: DoughtyOne
McCain will absolutely Kill Simcox. Simcox has baggage that runs deep, even in the Border Watch activists. All would be revisted in a campaign.

Hayworth would do better but probably not win either. Janet Napolitano was governor. This is not Barry Goldwater's Arizona. He still has a punchers chance. It would be worth a try nevertheless.

34 posted on 05/04/2009 12:50:02 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

If Hayworth is the type of guy I believe he may be, then I would be all for it. As I understand it, he doesn’t seem to want the position. Perhaps he also thinks it would be an impossible hurdle. Something needs to be done about this situation, and the Arizona Senate race is a great place to start.


35 posted on 05/04/2009 12:57:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: ducdriver
Imo, La Raza and ACORN get the local MSM coverage because, it's now become a matter of, if it bleeds or screeds, it leads.

I know that I certainly don't take them seriously. In fact, Nobody "does" projection like the MSM, Democrats and those groups do.

That's why when I'm at HotAir or NewsBusters, and there's Tavis Smiley or Geraldo calling Pat (Buchanan) or Michelle a "Racial Arsonist" in a clip, I can't even get Upset anymore. I just Lol or throw out a whatever.

I mean, what Is This? Demagoguery for Thee but not for Me, Guys?

Wth happened to the promise of "bipartisanship"? They're like a couple of bad stage comics who keep digging and digging.

36 posted on 05/04/2009 1:42:05 PM PDT by TeddyConAZ
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To: Antoninus

Yes! I don’t care who or what Simcox is, it would take a heckuva lot for him to be WORSE than McCain.
Until most of the voters in this country get that attitude we will keep voting in the same old same old.


37 posted on 05/04/2009 3:18:50 PM PDT by sheana
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