Posted on 04/28/2009 8:19:08 PM PDT by icwhatudo
"The World Health Organisation (WHO) says there have only been seven laboratory-confirmed swine flu deaths, all in Mexico, from 79 confirmed cases around the world.
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Of the 79 confirmed cases, the WHO says 26 are in Mexico, where the outbreak is believed to have started.
There are 40 cases in the US, six in Canada, two in Spain, two in Scotland and three in New Zealand."
(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...
US Deaths Due to Swine Flu-1 US Deaths Due to Swine Flu Vaccine-30
But I was told earlier that there were many deaths and from normally healthy people by a fellow freeper this morning! I was lied too!!!*
* I actually questioned his numbers. We are getting a lot of misinformation on this.
But you know what the Mexicans do, they flood to the hospitals...OURS.
I think I have the swine flu. I have an over powering urge to wallow in a mud hole and munch shelled corn.
Pffftt...
This will require $billions in taxes.....
but we must PANIC!!!!!!!!!!
We MUST!
We MUST SEE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AS OUR SAVIORS!!!!! /sarcasm so huge I think I may have just soiled myself.
Was wondering what other "scary diseases" appear in the US each year and found this:
Typhoid fever 365 cases
Malaria 2,001 cases
Whooping cough 6,564 cases
I for one, am shocked. Or not.
since I do not twitter, I was wondering about the accuracy of the reports on it? The post right before this one in general chat has a twitter post from someone in Mexico going, and this is not what they say is happening over there. Over 300 deaths, 159 directly attributed to swine flu, 152 more waiting to be confirmed 2500 sick in mexico city.
Not sure how accurate twitter is, I hear folks mention it alot, but that sounds like a pretty high kill rate for this virus if it turns out to be closer to right.
US Deaths Due to Swine Flu-1
US Deaths Due to Swine Flu Vaccine-30
Yes, I remember it well. Everyone in my family flocked to stand in line at our local high school to get their swine flu vaccine - even my husband. I didn't trust the government even then & refused to get the vaccine.
Those were the Jimmy Carter years - it's funny - here we are again. Wonder what's up with that?
I guess we all know what 0bama has been doing with his Blackberry now.
As Glenn Beck has been saying: watch what the OTHER hand is doing.
The flu, the NYC buzz over, whatever they come up with tomorrow, pay attention to what the other hand is doing.
These guys really understand how to create a diversion. Twinkle toes’ IDF experince comes in handy.
7 out of 79 would be a very high kill ration. But a low transmission rate.
It’s just too early to know.
Well, to drive something.
Mexican Health Secretary says 159 deaths ‘confirmed’ of swine flu, they
are checking another 150 suspicious deaths.
-- about 1 hour ago (9:30 pm CST) from BNO Headquarters
Exactly.
And now they have Arlen Specter.
Some really bad $hit is going to come down the pike now.
I posted that thread. The guy on Twitter claims to be a journalist, has a fairly impressive following.
I don’t know how accurate he is, either, but something’s wrong with our own news with this. The numbers don’t sound right. Either it’s hype, or the rate of exposure and death is being downplayed.
I still don’t know what to think about all this.
These numbers do not exactly match what is on the WHO website. They list 64 confirmed cases in the US alone.
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_04_28/en/index.html
I agree with you about the forced vaccinations that I am sure are to come. But, given history, with the flu of 1918 killing so very many, do we sit back and wait for it to wipe us out, or do something.
Remember what President Bush suffered when there weren’t “enough” flu shots one year... and the flu season turned out to be a bust anyway? What country’s leader wants to suffer that media coverage.
Vaccinations have to have an opt out option though... not to mention, by the time ANY company develops one, the flu will be over or mutated to another form, rendering the vaccine useless.
The guy, RodrigoMX, is a journalist for this Twitter breaking news startup, BNO.
I just received an automated message via phone from the University of Delaware where my son goes. It said that they have just confirmed 4 cases of it on campus.
Interesting. Wonder if they kiddos were in Mexico for spring break...
Quite possible, although I'm not sure where you got the deaths number.
However, the relevant number isn't the comparison you give. It's the predicted number of deaths that would have occurred without the vaccinations versus the number with the vaccinations.
This is, of course, by definition a projection rather than a hard number, but it's the only one that counts.
For instance, the early practice of innoculation for smallpox had an approximately 2% mortality rate. However, this was in comparison to an approximately 20% mortality rate for smallpox contracted naturally, plus another 20% with major scarring that severely impacted the rest of their lives.
Some of those who died from innoculation would not have contracted smallpox naturally. But any reasonable person can see that trading a 20 to 40% mortality and scarring rate for a 2% rate is worthwhile.
It is even contended that innoculation may be partially responsible for the success of the American Revolution. At Valley Forge and later Washington insisted on innoculation of all soldiers in the American Army. The British did not practice innoculation and suffered horrific smallpox losses in their southern campaigns.
7 out of 79 would be a very high kill ration. But a low transmission rate.
Confirmed is not the same as probable. Which is it? Rhetorical question... I know it is too early to know.
btw. of course sooner or later it will kill some people in the US and Europe too. but this is normal. as said before the “standart” influenza viruses kill 250.000 - 500.0000 people worldwide every year. it only depends on the % rate.
From the article:
“Lynch noted that a new definition of “probable” swine flu cases was issued at 3 p.m. yesterday by the Center for Disease Control and that under that definition, the University of Delaware cases qualified. The day before they would not have.”
And lest we all forget, there is still a “regular” flu going around. I had it in March, and it was BAD, and lots of people had it. I had a flu shot in the fall, but flu shots aren’t good for all strains, so I got it anyway. So we’ll have to wait for the tests on these Deleware kids to know whether they have “regular” flu or the Mexican/Swine Flu.
I have had the flu twice in about six months. I had one in the fall, slow, but got me in the end. The one that hit me mid-end March was FAST. I had a dry cough for about a week, then the real cough & congestion hit, within two days I couldn’t breathe, and ran a fever higher than I have for years.
How long is the confirmation test taking? I suppose my earlier article could be the suspected, but the phone call was the reporting of confirmation.
Just a little correction, they are responding to anti-viral meds, such as Tami flu.
That was my first thought too....
I'm sure nobody wants to get sick from this thing — you have a 1 in 14 chance of dying as current statistic stand in Mexico. But there's a lot to be said for developing an immunity early while you can still be seen by a doctor...
I don’t know for sure how long the confirmation test takes, only what I’ve read other FReepers post, and that was that it takes 2 days.
Did you receive the phone call, or are you referring to the post by ktscarlett66 ? I wasn’t clear, from her post, that it was a phone CALL... it said automated message... I thought that might have been a text or an email. And still waiting to hear back from her whether she is SURE it said “confirmed”.
Well, she did say phone in her comment. So yeah, cell phone will give you a text or an email...
Sorry, but an important correction: IF you get the Mexican Swine Flu, you have a 1 in 14 chance of dying, if you live in Mexico and don’t have access to the same medical treatment that we do in the US.
Not everyone who comes in contact with an infected person will get the flu, so the stats don’t mean 7% of all people are dying, just 7% of those who get this flu, in Mexico.
The phone message said (I went back to listen to it again) that preliminary results were swine flu. Having worked in healthcare for 20+ years, I never saw prelims that weren’t in agreement with the final results.
agreed. as i have said many people seem to forget that the mexicans don´t have the medical standarts “we” have.
How many confirmed cases of swine flu in 1976?
What if this hits China, Japan, India? Still interesting.
Meanwhile the sheeple bleat "Obaaaaaaaaama!" and are blind to the frightening reality we face.
Good points. You also have unknown the health condition of those infected.
And I certainly agree it’s not panic time; too much is unknown.
You’re not flying a flag on your Free Republic profile page, so I’m guessing from your writing and spelling that you’re a German speaker?
How is this being played out in your domestic news media, wherever that might be?
One of the reasons those numbers may be so low is that basically those infected were already effectively quaranteened.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0965.htm
Like this one from a week ago in Zimbabwe:
Source: http://www.newsnet.co.zw/index.php?nID=15529
Mysterious flu-bug under investigation (Zimbabwe, Africa)
Posted: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:07:11 +0200
Following some unconfirmed reports emanating from some high density suburbs in Harare that there is a mysterious flue-bug that has claimed two lives in Budiriro, the Deputy Minister of Health and Child Welfare, Dr Douglas Mombeshora, says his Ministry in conjunction with the World Health Organisation, has set out teams to carry out a thorough investigation.
Health officials from Budiriro have reported a flue like disease which they say might have claimed two lives in the area last week.
Although the said disease is still shrouded in mysteries, Dr Mombeshora says Zimbabweans should not panic as it could just be a different and stronger strain of flue which could be a result of changes in seasons.
Dr Mombeshora said his Ministry, in conjunction with the World Health Organisation, have since sent out teams to investigate and make laboratory tests of the disease in Budiriro and results are expected before the end of the week.
The Minister was however quick to point out that as the country approaches the winter season, people should keep warm and take a lot of vitamins.
He said if an individual contracts flue and the disease persists for more than seven days, it is proper that one quickly visits a health institution for treatment.
Flu bugs are not new to the region as last year in South Africa, a strong and rare flue bug claimed several lives prompting the international community to carry out research which revealed that the flue virus can easily change and in some cases it can be so strong that victims die.
I believe it was over 500.
You’re not flying a flag on your Free Republic profile page, so I’m guessing from your writing and spelling that you’re a German speaker?
How is this being played out in your domestic news media, wherever that might be?
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