So much so that there is an effort underway to Stop Oil Seep. (Note the source)
Posted on 04/25/2009 5:51:53 PM PDT by Lorianne
In car-crazy California, a new fuel standard ordered by state officials to curb greenhouse gases could dramatically change how vehicles run.
It also could have a huge effect on cost.
The petroleum industry and some economists say the new standard adopted by the state Air Resources Board on Thursday will cost motorists billions, because blending gasoline will become considerably more complicated.
But state officials and environmentalists say the "low-carbon fuel standard" will actually save Californians money by reducing oil consumption and ushering in a competitive new era of biofuels and electric vehicles.
The stakes are enormous. The price of fuel can have a significant impact on the state's economic health. When gas hit $4.50 last summer, it severely hurt tourism and caused delivery companies to impose fuel surcharges.
Gasoline now sells for a relatively affordable $2.35 a gallon on average, but the state's already strict fuel formulas create a delicate balance between supply and demand. Even minor supply glitches have caused big price spikes because only a small number of refiners make gas to California's specifications.
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
If these morons are content with paying $10 a gallon for politically correct gas then let them. They vote for the clowns that impose these stupid standards and deserve every hit that comes from it.
Give CA back to Mexico.
—if I was an oil company, I’d just say goodbye and close the doors—
I have a better idea. How about the oil companies refuse to make these special new fuels and just stop selling oil to California?
It's not like they can't pipe gasoline elsewhere, now is it? Although they'll take a hit (short-term) on sales, and long-term on piping cost, they'll make up a good chunk of it by not having to produce Calbania's weird collection of boutique blends.
Hack, d'ya still have that map showing how many blends Calbania requires, by statute?
Then let Californians walk.
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I sure wish California would isolate itself. Build it’s own ultra expensive refineries and supply all its own fuel. Don’t drag the rest of us down with higher prices for their idiocy, jeez.
GMTA, gents!
“Low carbon” gasoline, that is to LOL.
The really hilarious part is the libs just never learn. They keep electing the same libs over and over again. My only conclusion is that they must enjoy this kind of existence.
Kinda reminds me of the morons in DC who vote Democrat year after year and are now whining about losing their school vouchers.
So much so that there is an effort underway to Stop Oil Seep. (Note the source)
More "feel good" liberal unintended consequences. Not that it matters to me because I don't care how much CO2 is released.
I just think it is continually amazing how small minded these polits are and how a nation's wealth is created.
Not that such things won't work, but did the writer notice that California is deep into it's third year of major drought with agriculture being shut down all over the place due to a lack of water.
And electric cars? California does not now have sufficient electric power for ordinary business to say nothing of millions of electric cars.
They'd need to import both biofuels and electricity ~ but that's not going to happen.
Just raise your price. No need for concern.
A lot of good Californians who gave their lives for this country and their beloved state would take issue with that statement.
Give up one state, and you'll lose a lot more. Where do you plan to draw the line?
You took the words right out of my mouth.
The article claims that there are already only a few refineries who blend gasoline to California's standards. This stupid law may push a couple of them to throw in the towel.
On the other hand, the refineries may just say, "fine with us, but it's gonna cost ya".
“Low carbon” gasoline, that is to LOL.
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It’s no diferent than mandating bread with no flour...
Sell gas to the CA sheep for $10/gallon. The rest of us can get it for under 2 bucks. Wait for the idiotic dhimmicrat legislature to mandate a lower price. Then just leave the idiots to use their bikes. Monitor the Hollywood freaks to insure that they don’t use their jets. The ensuing civil war should be delightful to watch.
Schadenfreude
Make Californians burn methane or liquified natural gas (LNG) by making them convert all their vehicles to LNG.
Then eventually convert them to hydrogen -- made from electricity (from nuclear power plants since California should not import any more electricity).
Add “cap and trade” and you are $20 a gallon.
But state officials and environmentalists say the “low-carbon fuel standard” will actually save Californians money by reducing oil consumption and ushering in a competitive new era of biofuels and electric vehicles.
Low-carbon fuel for cars is a bit of an oxymoron. Low carbon, low “go.”
All the oil companies have to do is tell CA they will no longer sell oil in CA. Simple solution to the insanity the exists in CA.
Time to buy energy stocks again...but probably better to buy Chinese stocks than USA stocks. Communist China being a more free enterprise, capitalist country than Obama’s USA.
The oil companies should just stop selling oil based products in California.
Translation: Californians will save money and reduce oil consumption because it will be too expensive to drive, therefore they will save money by not driving and they will reduce oil consumption by not driving.
In other words, it will be so expensive, you will save money by not being able to afford to spend it.
Those "state officials" are not just, idiots, they are evil idiots...
And they're planning to "save" your money on health care costs through exactly the same method...
I think it makes sense, in a perverse sort of way.
If they make it so expensive that you can't afford to drive, you'll have to just sit at home and watch TV. Move into some apartment within walking distance of work, if you have a job. Think of all the money you'd save if you never took your car anywhere. If they keep at it and reduce your standard of living to that in North Korea, you'll be saving even MORE money.
“But state officials and environmentalists say the “low-carbon fuel standard” will actually save Californians money by reducing oil consumption and ushering in a competitive new era of biofuels and electric vehicles. “
The so-called logic of morons.
Actually, it makes perfect sense. Low-carbon hydrocarbons are known as Hydrogen.
Of course, that does not work, so...
The circumstance that an aircraft is more efficient traveling at higher speeds into a headwind to reduce the time exposed to unfavorable conditions is not as significant in surface transportation. Longer trip times are more than offset by increased efficiency. Whether an SUV or a long haul semi, traveling at posted speed limits on level ground due to power limitations is much more efficient than the additional 45% power requirement to allow rapid acceleration and speed limits on 5% grades.
Improved mileage does not require expensive or exotic blends of several fuel stocks and does not upset the balance of production and distribution developed over the last 100 years.
At that point, the Hugo Chavez wannabes in Sacramento would vote to take over the Refineries, which would be hilarious.
Let those people who love to Legislate Innovation figure out how to make fuel.
” It’s no different than mandating bread with no flour... “
The Pharaoh demanded the Jews make bricks without straw...
The legislature will soon repeal the laws of thermodynamics. They just get in the way of achieving the fantasy. Repeal the Law of Gravity too. We can just fly everywhere like Superman.
The oil companies need to tell the government of california to go too hell,the fastest way possible.
The problem is that California provides a huge amount of the food you eat. Check the boxes on the produce in your store.
Fresno
Sanger
Selma
Kingsburg
Bakersfield
Stockton
Modesto
The liberals want us out of the state because we are the last bastion between them and permanent one-party rule.
Check the bottom of every FR page: Fresno, California
When the phony deregulation scheme failed in the early part of this decade, Gray Davis and the Dems spent all their time blaming Enron.
It would be wonderful to see how long they would hold out without any gasoline.
Then you CA’er need to take it back.
So, just like that, you're willing to roll over and allow foreign and domestic enemies to take a part of your country away without so much as a whimper?
That's disgusting. You obviously have no allegiance to what we call America.
Democrat congressional hearings and Hussein's administration already sing the praises of Kalifornica's standards. They tend to spread east.
yitbos
This map?
U.S. Gasoline Requirements
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/GFM/Files/US_Gasoline_Map.pdf
Also see:
Refined Products Pipeline
http://images.pennnet.com/mapsearch/ref_pipe.jpg
That’s the one, thanks!
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