Posted on 04/21/2009 1:42:40 PM PDT by zaphod3000
The Drug abuse problem is a given. The authority to force a strip search is not for a minor. The parents must be involved or the child should be expelled. Simple as that.
It's for the Educators safety...
This was WRONG. This goes too far. Much too far.
Incidentally, they didn't even find anything on her making her TWICE a victim.
So it’s OK for a kid to get an abortion without parental consent, but are subjected to a friggin strip search for IBUPROFEN?
You just keep tellin' yourself that, Scooter.
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This Scooter is a woman. But, as a coworker said about a drug addict relative, they hide a vial of someone else's pee up their vagina when they go in for the urine test. That way it's the right temp.
Tonight we have Tempo. My son gets a urine test, but hubby can't go tonight. I asked him who should watch our son pee? He told me he's OK alone. And that's why all the trouble happens when I'm working Friday and Saturday night so that someone is always at home to be the parent. One of us is too trusting.
Or one of you has trust issues...
I have no dog in this fight, but the strip search of any student by untrained micro-managers masquerading as teachers is beyond stupid. As others have said, either the police are called, the parents are brought in, or the student is expelled.
I have never trusted teachers since high school, and have never been given a reason to change my mind to date. This sounds like some lesbian who wanted to take a boo at this little one. The violation of trust is beyond forgiveness.
Any search on or off school property should require a warrant.
Was the search based only on the word of another student? Imagine what mischievous students could do with that one.
Still, with the current wave of sexual predators working their way through the schools I don’t think we really need the school administrators giving anyone a “strip search”.
Let me make this perfectly clear....someone strip searches my daughter and peeks in her underwear...I’m going to consider it rape....and someone is gonna get shot...
And maybe you missed the part where the good Mr wright claims IN COURT that a CAVITY SEARCH would still be legal....
To to be graphic...he’s saying he has the legal right to put his fingers up my minor daughters virgina or anus.
So saying your OK with that is kinda sick...and I dont want YOU anywhere near my kids.
If you're ok with giving School officials the legal right to strip search young girls I'd suggest that it's you who is too trusting.
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I can imagine situations where a student needs to be searched. My primary point was that if the offense is that bad (A) the parents should be notified and have the option of being present, (B) law enforcement should be called and supervise whatever is done to make sure it’s proper and legal, (C) the parents and student should be given some options about who performs the search (if they prefer to the school nurse to a police woman, then the nurse is OK), and (D) there should be reprocussions for false accusations, something missing in modern society. Please look at the link I posted earlier in the thread about a young woman who was strip searched by a McDonald’s manager when a person impersonating a police officer called the manager and asked her to do the search.
Nobody should ever be strip searched without law enforcement at least being on the scene, no child should be strip searched without their parents being on the scene, and the evidence (especially if the student is not a trouble student) should not be a single accusation from another student. And unless there is some urgency, the parents should also be given the opportunity to contact a lawyer and/or a judge before such a search takes place.
And as I pointed out, the Constitutional protections against unwarranted searches. reqiring habeas corpus, and so on are all inconvenient to law enforcement and let the guilty go free. Those protection are there to protect the innocent and something like a strip search is very traumatic for a young adult. Once you go down the road of stepping on the innocent to get at the guilty, it becomes easy to treat everyone like a criminal and that’s not justice. And if you think school is the only place where kids are exposed to drugs, you are kidding yourself.
That's not what this is about. It's about parental rights.
Statists ALWAYS can produce a "valid reason" to usurp parental rights and the parental right to extend those rights to their children or waive them at their (the parents) discretion.
You have the right to have your minor son strip searched the pleasure of the school janitor if you wish, or you can require the entire statist tyranny to obey the law and the Constitution and NOT violate any of your God given rights that you extend to your minor children, (provided you KEEP the Republic that the founders built for you). You do not have the right to approve strip searching other people's children.
The statists bent on imposing tyranny will ALWAYS try to sell you security at the price of your (and your children's) rights and freedom. They feign concern but wallow in the lust and greed for power, their ultimate goal.
I pray for your son. His salvation will not come from catering to the whims of public "servants" or destroying the lives of innocent by-standing children.
School bureaucrats are state agents and at mimimum, need to at least be subject to the same rules as law enforcement.
I'm not sure I agree. Any issue important enough to justify a strip search would involve suspicion of a crime with legally defined PC, so they could call the cops and the search would be subject to constitutional restrictions. If the issue is important enough to them that they don't want her at their school but doesn't involve an allegation of a crime they can expel her, but not tell her to take her clothes off. Period. Advil doesn't justify a pat down, let alone a perv search.
IOW, they’re just there to run the school, not to be wannabe LEO’s over stuff that isn’t even illegal.
The school should detain the child and call in the police AFTER NOTIFYING THE PARENTS.
I love Scalia.
IF? If a frog had wings he wouldn't bum his a$$ a hoppin'.
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