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Kenyan Muslims Say Church Trying to Forcefully Convert Obama's Grandmother to Christianity
Weasel Zippers ^
Posted on 04/20/2009 7:01:27 AM PDT by JDAM2007
A Protestant church in Kenya is trying to convert US President Barack Obama's step-grandmother to Christianity against her will, a Muslim group said Monday, condemning the move as provocation.
The Seventh Day Adventist church in the western town of Kisumu had invited 87-year-old Sarah Obama -- a Muslim -- to a function on Saturday, where she was allegedly to be baptised.
According to relatives in her village of Kogelo, "Mama Sarah", as she is popularly known in the US president's paternal homeland, was surprised by the offer and declined to attend. "I regret the attempt by the Christian religion to force her to convert,"Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa, the organising secretary of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya, told AFP.
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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; africanchristians; kenya; obama; obamafamily
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:01:27 AM PDT
by
JDAM2007
To: JDAM2007
To a muslim, “force” is anything and any statement contrary to their group think.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:04:22 AM PDT
by
Soothesayer
(The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
To: JDAM2007
Unlikely. Islam is the religion of forced converts. Jesus said...”No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:44. There can be no forced Christians who are really Christians.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:06:25 AM PDT
by
highlander_UW
(The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
To: JDAM2007
Craziness, you can submerge a person in holy water but you can’t make the soul drink......it must be willing.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:08:06 AM PDT
by
Kakaze
(Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
To: JDAM2007
Of course, muslims not being averse to lying to promote their religion doesn’t play into this.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:08:12 AM PDT
by
FourPeas
(I am the pink flamingo on the great lawn of life.)
To: Soothesayer
This report appears suspect on the face of it. “Forceful Conversion” describes more aptly the Muslim religion than does the Christian church of today. Christian bashing has become stylish, though.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:08:48 AM PDT
by
Twinkie
(HITLER WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.)
To: JDAM2007
According to relatives in her village of Kogelo, "Mama Sarah", as she is popularly known in the US president's paternal homeland, was surprised by the offer and declined to attend.Outrageous! Next thing you know, they'll be inviting her to a church pot-luck!
To: JDAM2007
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:11:36 AM PDT
by
PGalt
To: Soothesayer
She received an invitation, which she declined.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:11:58 AM PDT
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: JDAM2007
An “invitation” is not force. She is free to accept or reject baptism. Sheesh. Islamists are the enemy of religious freedom.
To: JDAM2007
are we ever gonna get tired of these people...
shezzzzzzzzzzzz...lets start drilling more of our own oil so we can tell the whole lot of ‘em to go straight to hell!
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:16:23 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
To: JDAM2007
RE :
The Seventh Day Adventist church in the western town of Kisumu had
invited
87-year-old Sarah Obama -- a Muslim -- to a function on Saturday, where she was allegedly to be baptised.
They INVITED her. That's FORCE ? Somehow these people do not know the difference between inviting and coercion. Un-freakingbelievable.
To: massgopguy
She received an invitation, which she declined.
PRECISELY ! If you can decline an invitation, then you aren't being forced to do anything.
To: FourPeas
In this case we can believe the muslims. She should remain muslim and tell us more about his birth in nairobi.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:20:30 AM PDT
by
omega4179
(boycott government run entities)
To: JDAM2007
Egads. What, they knocked on her door just like they do to millions and millions of other people’s? Their meaning of “forced” must come from the same dictionary as Clinton’s “is”.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:24:31 AM PDT
by
bgill
(The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
To: JDAM2007
Obuma must be outraged. Maybe he’ll send some FBI flunkies to “observe” the church....
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:28:57 AM PDT
by
Dallas59
("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
To: JDAM2007
A Protestant church in Kenya is trying to convert US President Barack Obama's step-grandmother to Christianity against her will, Of course all Christians know this is nonsense by definition. But one could expect the media to explain the Christian perspective as well, given its relevance.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:38:43 AM PDT
by
Liberty1970
(Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
To: omega4179
She is the one who witnessed his birth in the homeland!
I am afraid “old age” will soon catch up with her as it did with his other grandmother who knew “the truth”!
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:39:12 AM PDT
by
Phosgood
(...Congressmen.. call ........they don't give a ratsass about phone calls. >..<)
To: JDAM2007
Oh, good. Why don’t they work on him first?
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:41:09 AM PDT
by
GnuHere
To: JDAM2007
Wow! This is like the original “pot meet kettle” thread.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:42:57 AM PDT
by
Seruzawa
(Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
To: Soothesayer
Yeah, you cannot force someone to become a Christian. It is simply impossible.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:44:54 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(Jesus loves me, this I know.)
To: massgopguy
Now she must live as a Christian Dhimmi as a result of her refusal.
Oh wait, wrong religion!
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:44:59 AM PDT
by
Soothesayer
(The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
To: brytlea
Mooselimbs cannot fathom that fact since they’re religion is by threat of death if they don’t conform ... and the murderous Taliban is living proof that the insanity of Islam is alive and thriving in the world, sadly.
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:47:38 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: brytlea; Reno232; restornu; sevenbak
I wonder what mooselimbs would say about Mormonism baptising mooselimbs in abstentia? Do Mormons get baptised for mooselimbs, or are they left to their fate? I’ll ping a mormonism apologist or three who’re a regular at FR to find out!
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:50:51 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: MHGinTN; brytlea; Reno232
I wonder what mooselimbs would say about Mormonism baptising mooselimbs in abstentia? Do Mormons get baptised for mooselimbs, or are they left to their fate?

Ill ping stir a mormonism apologist or three whore a regular at FR to find out!
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posted on
04/20/2009 7:56:29 AM PDT
by
restornu
To: JDAM2007
Gee, I hope they don’t cut her head off!
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posted on
04/20/2009 8:06:33 AM PDT
by
FES0844
To: JDAM2007
Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa - snipers wanted.
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posted on
04/20/2009 8:21:55 AM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
To: restornu
Well, Resty, are proxy baptisms done for Moslems?
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posted on
04/20/2009 8:29:26 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: restornu
You could just answer the question....
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posted on
04/20/2009 9:11:34 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(Jesus loves me, this I know.)
To: brytlea
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posted on
04/20/2009 9:24:53 AM PDT
by
restornu
To: restornu
I would interpret that as a yes, you do proxy baptisms for Muslims. Let me know if I am in error (a simple yes or no would have been appreciated).
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posted on
04/20/2009 9:30:53 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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