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Kenyan Muslims Say Church Trying to Forcefully Convert Obama's Grandmother to Christianity
Weasel Zippers ^

Posted on 04/20/2009 7:01:27 AM PDT by JDAM2007

A Protestant church in Kenya is trying to convert US President Barack Obama's step-grandmother to Christianity against her will, a Muslim group said Monday, condemning the move as provocation.

The Seventh Day Adventist church in the western town of Kisumu had invited 87-year-old Sarah Obama -- a Muslim -- to a function on Saturday, where she was allegedly to be baptised.

According to relatives in her village of Kogelo, "Mama Sarah", as she is popularly known in the US president's paternal homeland, was surprised by the offer and declined to attend. "I regret the attempt by the Christian religion to force her to convert,"Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa, the organising secretary of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya, told AFP.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; africanchristians; kenya; obama; obamafamily

1 posted on 04/20/2009 7:01:27 AM PDT by JDAM2007
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To: JDAM2007

To a muslim, “force” is anything and any statement contrary to their group think.


2 posted on 04/20/2009 7:04:22 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: JDAM2007

Unlikely. Islam is the religion of forced converts. Jesus said...”No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:44. There can be no forced Christians who are really Christians.


3 posted on 04/20/2009 7:06:25 AM PDT by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: JDAM2007

Craziness, you can submerge a person in holy water but you can’t make the soul drink......it must be willing.


4 posted on 04/20/2009 7:08:06 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: JDAM2007

Of course, muslims not being averse to lying to promote their religion doesn’t play into this.


5 posted on 04/20/2009 7:08:12 AM PDT by FourPeas (I am the pink flamingo on the great lawn of life.)
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To: Soothesayer

This report appears suspect on the face of it. “Forceful Conversion” describes more aptly the Muslim religion than does the Christian church of today. Christian bashing has become stylish, though.


6 posted on 04/20/2009 7:08:48 AM PDT by Twinkie (HITLER WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.)
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To: JDAM2007
According to relatives in her village of Kogelo, "Mama Sarah", as she is popularly known in the US president's paternal homeland, was surprised by the offer and declined to attend.

Outrageous! Next thing you know, they'll be inviting her to a church pot-luck!

7 posted on 04/20/2009 7:11:12 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: JDAM2007

Perhaps Yusuf Islam could cover Starship’s Sarah in a new world tour...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJcCoom6dlM


8 posted on 04/20/2009 7:11:36 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Soothesayer

She received an invitation, which she declined.


9 posted on 04/20/2009 7:11:58 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: JDAM2007

An “invitation” is not force. She is free to accept or reject baptism. Sheesh. Islamists are the enemy of religious freedom.


10 posted on 04/20/2009 7:14:33 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: JDAM2007

are we ever gonna get tired of these people...

shezzzzzzzzzzzz...lets start drilling more of our own oil so we can tell the whole lot of ‘em to go straight to hell!


11 posted on 04/20/2009 7:16:23 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: JDAM2007
RE :

The Seventh Day Adventist church in the western town of Kisumu had

invited

87-year-old Sarah Obama -- a Muslim -- to a function on Saturday, where she was allegedly to be baptised.

They INVITED her. That's FORCE ? Somehow these people do not know the difference between inviting and coercion. Un-freakingbelievable.
12 posted on 04/20/2009 7:18:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: massgopguy
She received an invitation, which she declined.

PRECISELY ! If you can decline an invitation, then you aren't being forced to do anything.
13 posted on 04/20/2009 7:19:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: FourPeas

In this case we can believe the muslims. She should remain muslim and tell us more about his birth in nairobi.


14 posted on 04/20/2009 7:20:30 AM PDT by omega4179 (boycott government run entities)
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To: JDAM2007

Egads. What, they knocked on her door just like they do to millions and millions of other people’s? Their meaning of “forced” must come from the same dictionary as Clinton’s “is”.


15 posted on 04/20/2009 7:24:31 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: JDAM2007

Obuma must be outraged. Maybe he’ll send some FBI flunkies to “observe” the church....


16 posted on 04/20/2009 7:28:57 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: JDAM2007
A Protestant church in Kenya is trying to convert US President Barack Obama's step-grandmother to Christianity against her will,

Of course all Christians know this is nonsense by definition. But one could expect the media to explain the Christian perspective as well, given its relevance.

17 posted on 04/20/2009 7:38:43 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: omega4179

She is the one who witnessed his birth in the homeland!

I am afraid “old age” will soon catch up with her as it did with his other grandmother who knew “the truth”!


18 posted on 04/20/2009 7:39:12 AM PDT by Phosgood (...Congressmen.. call ........they don't give a ratsass about phone calls. >..<)
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To: JDAM2007

Oh, good. Why don’t they work on him first?


19 posted on 04/20/2009 7:41:09 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: JDAM2007

Wow! This is like the original “pot meet kettle” thread.


20 posted on 04/20/2009 7:42:57 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: Soothesayer

Yeah, you cannot force someone to become a Christian. It is simply impossible.


21 posted on 04/20/2009 7:44:54 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: massgopguy

Now she must live as a Christian Dhimmi as a result of her refusal.

Oh wait, wrong religion!


22 posted on 04/20/2009 7:44:59 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: brytlea

Mooselimbs cannot fathom that fact since they’re religion is by threat of death if they don’t conform ... and the murderous Taliban is living proof that the insanity of Islam is alive and thriving in the world, sadly.


23 posted on 04/20/2009 7:47:38 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: brytlea; Reno232; restornu; sevenbak

I wonder what mooselimbs would say about Mormonism baptising mooselimbs in abstentia? Do Mormons get baptised for mooselimbs, or are they left to their fate? I’ll ping a mormonism apologist or three who’re a regular at FR to find out!


24 posted on 04/20/2009 7:50:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; brytlea; Reno232
I wonder what mooselimbs would say about Mormonism baptising mooselimbs in abstentia? Do Mormons get baptised for mooselimbs, or are they left to their fate?


I’ll ping stir a mormonism apologist or three who’re a regular at FR to find out!

25 posted on 04/20/2009 7:56:29 AM PDT by restornu
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To: JDAM2007

Gee, I hope they don’t cut her head off!


26 posted on 04/20/2009 8:06:33 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: JDAM2007

Sheikh Mohamed Khalifa - snipers wanted.


27 posted on 04/20/2009 8:21:55 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect" - Thoreau)
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To: restornu

Well, Resty, are proxy baptisms done for Moslems?


28 posted on 04/20/2009 8:29:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: restornu

You could just answer the question....


29 posted on 04/20/2009 9:11:34 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

Acts 10:34!:)


30 posted on 04/20/2009 9:24:53 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

I would interpret that as a yes, you do proxy baptisms for Muslims. Let me know if I am in error (a simple yes or no would have been appreciated).


31 posted on 04/20/2009 9:30:53 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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