This reminds me why I like GWB.
Posted on 04/16/2009 10:34:55 PM PDT by pissant
The Bush Administration approved the use of "insects placed in a confinement box" during the interrogation of top Al Qaeda official Abu Zubaydah, according to a 2002 document that President Obama declassified for release Thursday.
The legal memorandum for the CIA, prepared by Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee, reviewed 10 enhanced techniques for interrogating Zubaydah, and determined that none of them constituted torture under U.S. criminal law. The techniques were: attention grasp, walling (hitting a detainee against a flexible wall), facial hold, facial slap, cramped confinement, wall standing, stress positions, sleep deprivation, insects placed in a confinement box, and waterboarding.(View pictures of life inside Guantanamo.)
The CIA desire to use insects during interrogations has not previously been disclosed, according to two civil liberties experts contacted by TIME. The Bybee memorandum, which was written on August 1, 2002, described the CIA's plans for using insects this way:
"You [the CIA] would like to place Zubaydah in a cramped confinement box with an insect. You have informed us [the Department of Justice] that he appears to have a fear of insects. In particular, you would like to tell Zubaydah that you intend to place a stinging insect into the box with him. You would, however, place a harmless insect in the box. You have orally informed us that you would in fact place a harmless insect such as a catapiller in the box with him."
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
This reminds me why I like GWB.
Courtesy of Oingo Boingo:
Tiny insects in my hair
Tiny insects everywhere
Tiny insects in my pants
Watching insects make romance
Insects make me make me want to dance dance dance
They make want to dance . . .
Flying insects everywhere
Flying insects buzzing buzzing buzzing thru the air
Just like little diamonds in the sky
Insects buzzing in my eye
Buzzing insects make me want to dance dance dance
They make me want to dance . . .
Insects crawling all around
Insects squirming in the ground
Insects gooey squeaky chewy
Should I eat them—no
Id rather stomp them hurt them stomp
Stomp them while I dance dance dance
I hurt them while I dance dance dance
I stomp them while I dance dance dance . . .
Insects make me scream and shout
They dont know what lifes about
They dont have blood
Theyve got too many legs
They dont have brains in their heads
They know theyll rule the world some day
They bite and sting me anyway
They bite and sting and suck
They bite and sting and suck suck suck
They bite and sting and
Suck suck suck suck suck . . .
Dance dance dance
take um all out and shoot um....
I’m not sure what bothers me more. That someone thinks that this could be construed as torture, when it more closely resembles an NBC game show. Or, the fact that America’s most fervent and dangerous enemies apparently are scared of bugs.
Well, they can’t use bugs anymore. Bring in the pigs!
Play Obama speeches day and night.
Is that Checov with the ear-dwellling, brain infecting alien slug?
Aaaaahhhhhh spiders!!!!
I would have put about a pound of live fishing worms in the box.
Soooo, I suppose showing a detainee the effects of a can of
foam window sealant and then injecting his ass with whipped cream would be considered torture too?
Now really filling his butt with foam window sealer would
be wrong no doubt, no matter how much he deserved it, still it is totally freaky.
Trust me, 50 cochroaches in a dark confined box would drive anybody insane.
Camel Spider.
And if bite left untreated....
Problem solved.
And yes, that's too much information, and tangential to your post. But you had to go and post the Chekhov picture. So really, I blame you.
Pray for America
I’ve seen one in person. It was dead. That camera angle is a little deceiving. They’re big. But, they’re not quite that big. Still, I carefully examined the inside of my boots with some conviction before I put them on - just in case.
Just leave a tray of bacon cheeseburgers when the camel-humpers are hungry.
“Well, they can’t use bugs anymore.”
Obama hasn’t given up the bugs in the least....
LOL! Great post.
caterpillars are scary.
NOTE TO SELF: If bitten by Camel Spider, have bite wound treated.
Jeff Goldblum as “The Fly” was also scary!
Pretty active fantasy life there tet68!
Your idea could forever ruin Saturday nights in the SF Castro district.
Dumped into the press by Obama's people, and parroted by the MSM whores.
I hope they put him in the box with a Tarantula.
And a snake and a rat would be good too.
It’s doubtless to shove both the DHS memo and Tea Parties out of the news cycle.
LoL this reminds me of that reality show where contestants would have to lay in a box full of huge roaches for a certain period of time..the team that had the most minutes won—I think that was the goal. Can’t remember the name...
Please tell me that spider is PHOTOSHOPPED!!!!
You mean before this memo there were NO insects in Guantanamo Bay?
It’s not photoshopped. However, the angle of the photo is deceiving. Camel spiders are nasty little spuds, but the guy standing in the background is several yards back, giving the appearance that the spider is a couple of feet long. Look at the cuff in the upper part of the photo and it will give a better indication of the actual size of the spider.
right ;^)
“Trust me, 50 cochroaches in a dark confined box would drive anybody insane.”
Sounds like everyones bedroom in Manila.
Wouldn’t drive me insane, I grew up under those conditions.
I tried to see the cuff, and yet still couldn’t comprehend the actual size so I googled it. I HATE spiders so bad—
The gist of what I read is they prey upon termites, bugs etc.
They remind me of chiggers—which also insert a venom type of stuff that liquifies the flesh so it can be sucked up.
I have to go to my happy place now. :-)
If one of those things got in your boot he would take a walk in the desert
I guess this means Obama doesnt have the balls to do what is necessary
That is the problem with these enhanced interrogation methods...the subject will scream out any answer, often false, to make it stop. Psychological techniques are much more effective, just not as exciting to read about. Ask any trained police or intelligence professional.
From http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_camel_spider.htm
The photo it’s a pair of scary-looking creatures dangling end-to-end. A typical specimen can grow to about the size of a child’s hand, but, though they are known as predators and can kill insects and very small animals, camel spiders are neither venomous nor a threat to human beings.
Botfly the bastards...
CIA.gov: "MESSAGE FROM THE DIRECTOR: RELEASE OF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OPINIONS Statement to Employees by Director of the Central Intelligence Agency Leon E. Panetta on the Release of Department of Justice Opinions" (April 16, 2009)
FOX NEWS.com: "EX-CIA CHIEF CRITICIZES RELEASE OF INTERROGATION MEMOS Former CIA Director Michael Hayden says release of the memos will give terrorists a precise guide for what to expect in a CIA interrogation if those methods are ever approved for use again" (April 16, 2009)
FOX NEWS.com: "OBAMA MAY RELEASE DETAILS OF CIA's INTERROGATION METHODS USED ON TERROR SUSPECTS" by Brit Hume (SNIPPET: "The president's decision will tell us much about him.") (April 15, 2009)
Make sure the seams are sealded with bacon fat. wouldn’t want insects to get inside.
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