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United To Charge Heavier Passengers Twice To Fly (Fat Tax)
wbbm ^ | Apr 15, 2009 | Bob Roberts

Posted on 04/15/2009 7:22:32 AM PDT by tlb

Airline Says Overweight Travelers Will Need To Buy Extra Seats Or Be Denied Entry To Planes.

Chicago-based United has instructed its customer service representatives at O'Hare International Airport ticket counters and gates to be extra vigilant beginning Wednesday for passengers they deem to be overweight. Those unable to comfortably fasten a safety belt with one extension or sit comfortably with armrests down will be denied boarding unless they purchase an extra seat, even if they can be placed elsewhere in the aircraft next to an empty seat.

If no empty seat exists, the passenger will be forced to take a later flight.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbs2chicago.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: airlines; fat; obesity; ual; united
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I approve. Discouraging unattractive people from flying and sitting next to me is long overdue.
1 posted on 04/15/2009 7:22:32 AM PDT by tlb
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To: 50mm

Well, now we know what the topic is of Meg’s next column.


2 posted on 04/15/2009 7:23:32 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: tlb

No problem from my prospective as long as this is not a government mandate.


3 posted on 04/15/2009 7:24:57 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: tlb

Fine, this is perfectly reasonable.
All kinds of people will scream about
it, but that is to be expected.


4 posted on 04/15/2009 7:25:16 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: tlb

Smelly ones too, lets not forget the smelly ones that forgot what a shower is for.


5 posted on 04/15/2009 7:25:25 AM PDT by edcoil (Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner Liberty is a well-armed lamb)
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To: tlb
I agree. There's nothing worse that seeing a 400lb person coming down the isle as you pray their seat isn't next to you, only to have them reach down, lift up the armrest that defines your space and plop that huge ass on the seat, pinching your thigh with their butt cheeks. My luck is such that most appear to belong to a religion that doesn't approve of bathing, either.
6 posted on 04/15/2009 7:26:18 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: tlb

Can we double-charge the Hollywood liberals who said they would move out of this country if GW Bush was elected anytime they are passing through customs? I mean, they never DID stay away those 8 years.


7 posted on 04/15/2009 7:26:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: edcoil

And what gauge do we have to measure the odor on?

Hey, take a vote of the five closest passengers to the odor emitter. Five rather than four to auto tie break.


8 posted on 04/15/2009 7:26:54 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: econjack

How much to we get to charge for crying babies and stinky hippies on flights?


9 posted on 04/15/2009 7:26:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: tlb
I approve. Discouraging unattractive people from flying and sitting next to me is long overdue.

I know many skinny people, and I know many heavy people. Appearance wise, they are about euqally distributed as to who is "attractive" and not, but I'd have to say the majority of those with unattractive attitudes towards others are skinny. I'd rather squish a little than sit next to a jerk.

10 posted on 04/15/2009 7:27:44 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: tlb
Those unable to comfortably fasten a safety belt with one extension or sit comfortably with armrests down will be denied boarding unless they purchase an extra seat, even if they can be placed elsewhere in the aircraft next to an empty seat.

Someone who can't fasten a seatbelt even with an extension has a serious, serious problem.

11 posted on 04/15/2009 7:28:59 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: tlb

Good for them! I’ll go out of my way to choose United from now on.


12 posted on 04/15/2009 7:29:07 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: tlb

A 250# person with 50# free checked baggage plus 25# carryon = 275#.

My wife can barely carryon 15#. That makes her total about 190# but she pays the same.


13 posted on 04/15/2009 7:29:36 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: tlb

I wonder when they’ll start charging me because my shoulders extend well into the seats on either side of me. It’s not that I’m a giant; it’s that their seats are like 15 inches wide.


14 posted on 04/15/2009 7:30:04 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: tlb

I can’t say I disagree with this. If you can’t fit into one seat and take up two, then you should have to pay for it or fly first class. Why should the person sitting next to the fatty have to suffer and be denied their fair share of space?


15 posted on 04/15/2009 7:30:14 AM PDT by lwd (Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless.)
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To: econjack
There's nothing worse that seeing a 400lb person coming down the isle as you pray their seat isn't next to you,

Yes there is, being in the middle seat between two of them, as has happened to me.

16 posted on 04/15/2009 7:30:24 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: tlb

Airline Says Overweight Travelers Will Need To Buy Extra Seats Or Be Denied Entry To Planes.....

Bout time!.....


17 posted on 04/15/2009 7:31:09 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: tlb

I fit nicely into the middle seat without elbowing anyone. I should get a discount, right?


18 posted on 04/15/2009 7:31:16 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (HOPE and CHANGE? More like BAIT and SWITCH.)
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To: tlb

Hope this causes United to go bankrupt. They have the nastiest flight attendents in the sky.


19 posted on 04/15/2009 7:32:38 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ColdWater

My wife would kill me if I made the same calculation of her traveling weight in a public forum.

I wish you well. :)


20 posted on 04/15/2009 7:34:00 AM PDT by Never on my watch (See you at the Tea Party!)
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To: jalisco555
Yes there is, being in the middle seat between two of them, as has happened to me.

I sympathize, empathize, and have been there also.

21 posted on 04/15/2009 7:34:07 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: tlb

Those unable to comfortably fasten a safety belt with one extension or sit comfortably with armrests down will be denied boarding unless they purchase an extra seat, even if they can be placed elsewhere in the aircraft next to an empty seat.

ROTFLMAO. Are there seriously people that need an additional extension????? Sheesh. I approve this too. I mean this is not government nanny crap. This is a private airline who says get on a dang eliptical or pay more...another extension...holy cow. lol.


22 posted on 04/15/2009 7:34:09 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: edcoil
Smelly ones too, lets not forget the smelly ones that forgot what a shower is for.

Or worse yet, so fat, they can't reach their crack.

23 posted on 04/15/2009 7:36:08 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: tlb
Those unable to comfortably fasten a safety belt with one extension or sit comfortably with armrests down

I'm OK with that as long as they don't start weighing people next or charge by the pound. If they went that way, only five year olds, dwarves, midgets and asians will be able to fly.

24 posted on 04/15/2009 7:37:09 AM PDT by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!")
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To: lwd

90% of the time, the airlines upgrades me to business at
no charge. Not a question of weight, but height.


25 posted on 04/15/2009 7:38:02 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: tlb

And if the little crying, spoiled-rotten, whiny brat with the a “best friend” for a parent sitting behind me wants to scream and kick my seat for the entire 2 hour ride, he should have to pay extra as well.


26 posted on 04/15/2009 7:38:02 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: tlb

Ticket prices should be a factor of

1) Distance travelled

and

2) Weight hauled


27 posted on 04/15/2009 7:38:33 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: napscoordinator

I once ran into a fellow who told a tale of sitting in an aisle seat with a really big guy next to him who had purchased two tickets/two seats.

The problem was that Mr. Big Guy needed two-and-a-half seats.


28 posted on 04/15/2009 7:38:43 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: tlb

And if the little crying, spoiled-rotten, whiny brat with a “best friend” for a parent sitting behind me wants to scream and kick my seat for the entire 2 hour ride, he should have to pay extra as well.


29 posted on 04/15/2009 7:38:54 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: tlb

Perhaps all some need is a seat and a quarter. Perhaps a few seats that wide could be installed, and sold at a premium?


30 posted on 04/15/2009 7:40:56 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Hat-Trick
And if the little crying, spoiled-rotten, whiny brat with the a “best friend” for a parent sitting behind me wants to scream and kick my seat for the entire 2 hour ride, he should have to pay extra as well.

As someone with an infant, I never understood why businesses, including airlines, have separate sections for families with small children so that other people are not bothered when they make use of the services for which they paid.

Heck, with an airplane, you could just stick all of the families with small children in the back of the plane and all the people traveling without children in the front or something like that.

31 posted on 04/15/2009 7:41:30 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: tlb

Yes... because when they sit around the plane, they really sit AROUND the plane.


32 posted on 04/15/2009 7:43:26 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: dragonblustar

you write: “I’m OK with that as long as they don’t start weighing people next or charge by the pound. If they went that way, only five year olds, dwarves, midgets and asians will be able to fly.”

Yes, but we will fly CHEAP.

Airline ticket prices should be like almost any other energy intensive transportation charge: a product of distance & weight. Try calling up a trucking company to ship yourself in a box and see if they don’t ask for your weight......LOL.


33 posted on 04/15/2009 7:43:27 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: jalisco555
Once I was stuck between 2 tall men on an airline flight from Denver to Pittsburgh, non-stop. I am 5'3" and weighed around 118 pounds. They weren't overweight but being tall they had long legs and arms which often were bent into my space.

I never in my life had any sort of anxiety attack or claustrophobic feeling until that day. It came on me suddenly and unexpectedly. I felt like I was gasping for air. I had to get up a number of times through the flight to go to the rest room to calm down, which I'm sure, drove the aisle seated guy near nuts also.

From then on, I always chose an aisle seat.

34 posted on 04/15/2009 7:43:28 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: pnh102
Heck, with an airplane, you could just stick all of the families with small children in the back of the plane and all the people traveling without children in the front or something like that.

Back in the old days they did that with smokers. Many smokers would come forward to sit in empty seats after smoking in order to get away from the smoke!

35 posted on 04/15/2009 7:44:02 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: a fool in paradise

Reminds me of the time I asked a Stew for a seat extension. At 6’2”, 175 pounds, I certainly didn’t need one, and the stew expressed that opinion. She asked why I wanted one, and I told her, “To tie up that little jerky kid behind me who’s been kickin’ the bottom of my seat for the last 15 minutes.” Kids mother finally got control of the little bas****!


36 posted on 04/15/2009 7:44:24 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 3catsanadog
From then on, I always chose an aisle seat.

Experienced travelers usually learn, from bitter experience, to always request an aisle seat.

37 posted on 04/15/2009 7:45:38 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: tlb

I think United is marketing this all wrong. PAY BY THE POUND! Have a sliding scale ticket where the less you weigh the less you pay. Super Jumbo seating in cargo hold! The possibilities are endless.


38 posted on 04/15/2009 7:46:23 AM PDT by OffMyMeds (Crede et manducasti)
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To: tlb

Where’s that freeper who always posts the picture of the morbidly obese Code Pink woman with her stomach hanging out below her hemline?


39 posted on 04/15/2009 7:47:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: OffMyMeds

so this will become like that planet in “the hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy”?

next we are going to have a “fat in public” crime.


40 posted on 04/15/2009 7:48:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: tlb
The last time I flew, my young son was sitting in the middle seat next to me. The last in our row to be seated was a very wide man. The first thing this person did was speak to my 9 year old, "You don't mind if we put this (armrest) up, do you son?"

I politely placed my hand on the armrest and declared that he prefers to have the armrest down. What a cold hard look I received. The airlines give so little room in their seats that I wasn't about to make my son take the grief of dealing with the rude passenger. My son and I switched seats so he wouldn't have to deal with the unreasonable man and the armrest remained down to guard against posterior intrusion.

41 posted on 04/15/2009 7:50:44 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ColdWater
A 250# person with 50# free checked baggage plus 25# carryon = 275#.

Free checked baggage? What's that?

42 posted on 04/15/2009 7:51:27 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: tlb

The headline’s use of “heavier” is deceiving. This is not about weight, it’s about size.

It should have referred to “wide-body” passengers if they wanted to be both clever and accurate.

And to this plan, I offer my APPLAUSE!


43 posted on 04/15/2009 7:51:51 AM PDT by Beelzebubba ("Typical Rightwing Extremist")
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To: nuconvert

Flight attendent = flying waitress

And yes, I agree with your assessment. We flew United back from China into Chicago and I was so close to klocking out our seat-belt nazi attendent. We had an almost 3 year old we just adopted, he had never been on a plane, spoke no english, knew us for all of 4 days and was scared and this stupid woman made our trip hell. We complained loud and long and received zero response from United Corporate. We flew Northwest with our first adoption, flew home with 52 other adopted babies (yes - 52!) and we were treated great.


44 posted on 04/15/2009 7:52:15 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: SoothingDave
Free checked baggage? What's that?

It started to come back on some airlines this year.

45 posted on 04/15/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by ColdWater
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To: SoothingDave

Bad math.


46 posted on 04/15/2009 7:53:14 AM PDT by patton (I hope that they fight to the death and both sides win.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“How much to we get to charge for crying babies and stinky hippies on flights?”....

When in hell will they stop serving peanuts in those little bags?...Everytime they get passed out I get passed out from someone who farted peanuts!


47 posted on 04/15/2009 7:53:53 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: HD1200

Ticket prices should be a factor of

1) Distance travelled

and

2) Weight hauled


Or (if I may be radical) free-market forces.


48 posted on 04/15/2009 7:54:55 AM PDT by Beelzebubba ("Typical Rightwing Extremist")
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To: tlb; dixiechick2000

it is a quandry for airlines what to do with America’s grotesque fatty population

young women have gotten ridiculously obese early on

and yet all we hear about is Bulemia..

my daughter is in a sorority in college and half the girls are 20% overweight

when I was at Ole Miss, 2% were truly fat....no hot sorority babe was fat....zero...big framed maybe but not fat


49 posted on 04/15/2009 7:56:52 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: HD1200
Try calling up a trucking company to ship yourself in a box and see if they don’t ask for your weight......LOL.

Good one!

50 posted on 04/15/2009 7:56:53 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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