Posted on 04/12/2009 9:22:47 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
It's bad for our democracy to exempt half the country.
If you thought Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme was bad, wait until you hear about the inverted pyramid scheme the federal government is working on. While Mr. Madoff preyed on people who trusted him with their money, the federal government has everyone's money, and the implications of its actions are worse.
Picture an upside-down pyramid with its narrow tip at the bottom and its base on top. The only way the pyramid can stand is by spinning fast enough or by having a wide enough tip so it won't fall down. The federal version of this spinning top is the tax code; the government collects its money almost entirely from the people at the narrow tip and then gives it to the people at the wider side. So long as the pyramid spins, the system can work. If it slows down enough, it falls.
It's also what's called redistribution of income, and it is getting out of hand.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
Nothing is “free” in a capitalistic system.
Everyone should pay something, because they are utilizing the government's services. I don't care if it's $.01 or $1.
Well, actually, I think that everyone should quit paying their taxes this year and next year — until Obama’s government falls, and we vote in a new government. Then we can start paying taxes again to the new government that we vote in....
Yesssssss!
:-)
I wouldn't mind paying taxes if I could choose where my share could be used. That way I wouldn't be forced to support abortions or stem cell stuff or other asinine project.
IOW, let the tax payers choose where their money should be spent. I bet it would be an eye opener to the government.
And that’s precisely why they won’t let you do it... :-)
WRONG! It's none of the little Brown Shirts in governments business how much any of us make. The passage of an "income tax" was the first major step to tyranny in this country. Property taxes are possibly even worse. YOU SLAVES OWN NOTHING! You merely rent your lives from the control freaks in charge. Sales taxes on new goods and tariffs on foreign goods should be the only way a legitimate government should be able to fund itself.
NO ONE should be paying 'income' taxes. This country got along just fine for 150 years without one.
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And here’s an article from the New York Times all the way back from 2004:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/13/politics/campaign/13tax.html
Well, then..., I guess you’re all set for the tax protest.... :-)
I hope i have made myself clear.
Nothing wrong with having a debate over a federal income tax or a national sales tax.
You are clear, and I agree. :-)
Not only did the IRS remove people from income tax rolls, it gave them money that they hadn't even earned in the first place!!!
Now not only do millions of Americans get this money, even illegal aliens who file taxes (presumably under false SS nos.) get money that they've not earned.
Now less than one-half of Americans pay any income taxes. Whenever a tax reduction is proposed, these very same American non-taxpayers, scream about "the rich getting tax breaks."
I can even go one step further - only those who pay taxes have any right to vote!!!
Non-taxpayers vote in people who promise to take from those who do pay taxes and give to those who do not, get elected. Non-taxpayers vote in people whose aim is to take even more from the taxpayers!
Now the government is demanding that we give up our private health insurance so that we can pay into a pot to continue the wealth transfer through the so-called "health care" business. Anyone who shows up at an emergency room is treated whether they can pay or not. The rest of us pay for their bill. If that's not bad enough, now Obama is demanding that I give up an insurance policy that I pay for in favor of his kind of "government insurance." Congress sure as hell is not going to be forced into this scam and neither is any government employee!!!
If this isn't financial tyranny and slavery, I don't know what is.
The article from Rush’s site was titled:
“Only The Rich Pay Taxes — Top 50% of Wage Earners Pay 96.03% of Income Taxes”
So, it’s income taxes only.
Here’s the footnote that I should have put underneath the chart:
“*Data covers calendar year 2001, not fiscal year 2001 - and includes all income, not just wages, excluding Social Security”
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/top_50__of_wage_earners_pay_96_09__of_income_taxes.member.html
Thank you for the kindly replies.
OK, but if you think that if you allow your government to follow every cent you make you are still a free man... well, I would like to know just what your definition of freedom is. Lets face it folks. The control freaks in government have long since ceased to use the income tax code as a means of simply collecting money for legitimate government functions and are using it as a means to control our behavior.
And thank you for bringing that up.
It was very important to note, and I missed it.
Let’s bring up your point in a debate then.
Paraphrasing Ayn Rand. “The best way to control a population is to make so many things illegal that no member of the society can carry on their lives as free people without violating one or more to them.”
Very well. Why can't the government of the United States switch to a non intrusive sales tax on new goods to an end user and tariffs?
Eliminate “earned income tax credit” and make those welfare cases pay income tax.
If they don’t earn anything charge them a penalty!
A TAX POEM
At first I thought this was funny...then I realized the awful truth of it.
Be sure to read all the way to the end!
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he’s fed.
Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.
Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.
Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think..
Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.
Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his a__.
Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won’t be done
Till he has no dough.
When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He’s good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he’s laid..
Put these words
upon his tomb,
‘ Taxes drove me to my doom...’
When he’s gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise axes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury axes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recu rring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was
the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in
the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What in the world happened? Can you spell ‘politicians!’
And I still have to ‘press 1’ for English!?!?!?!?
I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!!!!
YOU can help it get there!!!!
GO AHEAD - - - BE AN AMERICAN !!!!!!
While I understand you sentiment, I disagree with your basic premise. It's none of any ones business how much money we make. Top to bottom. It's also no ones business to tell anyone else that it's their obligation to take care of someone else unless it's their own direct family.
Obama has given a whole new meaning to “paying income taxes.” For many of cult followers it means getting a check in the mail for taxes that they did not pay.
That was great! Thanks for sharing.
“The leper’s bell of the approaching looter.”
Jamil Mahuad, president of Ecuador in the late nineties, did away with their income tax and replaced it with a banking services tax of 2 percent. The theory was that, doing this, all money was taxed whether legal or hot money, at the point that it entered or left the banking system.
Cash transactions weren’t taxed, obviously, but the theory was that eventually all money enters the banking system and gets taxed when it does. Credit card transactions, checks, deposits, withdrawals, whatever.
They eliminated the income tax on the basis that there was, in their system, too much fraud involved, and it was a burden for small business owners to deal with it. Banks are set up to keep track of transactions, so all the taxation would take place there, and no where else.
The Left didn’t like it, because as they said, “all advanced countries have an income tax” therefor, they should have it also.
He also eliminated their local currency and went to the US dollar, since the upper class was already dollarized. This eliminated inflation in one blow.
Within short order, he was overthrown. They brought back the income tax, but kept the bank services tax, so now they have both. Oh well. Still, it was an interesting experiment in getting rid of the income tax, and the Left went wild. The guys who overthrew him were on the payroll of Chavez, for whatever its worth.
Hopefully Congress’ pork-filled ays are numbered.
No madam, I never did.
I agree. I want roads and public schools and I don’t want to organize building and running them. So, I’m willing to pay the government to do that for me.
I don’t want to pay for my perfectly able landlady who was laid off and got 6 months of unemployment. She then got that 6 months extended to 1 year “because of the bad economy”. The obvious problem is not that we don’t tax enough, but that we allow the government to spend and waste on so many things that are really disservices to the country.
DUDE! You're tossing money year after year into the biggest flim flam scam in the history of the human race! Feel better now?
actually no citizen should pay income tax
I disagree, NO ONE should pay income taxes they are an abomination and a terrible drain on this country and on free enterprise.
Simple.
Thank you for posting something with clarity.
Not only should sales taxes and tariffs be the only means of collecting revenue, but the end use of those funds should be only those things specifically enumerated in the Constitution, i.e. “the common defense” - which is, of course, just another way of protecting trade and commerce.
No man owns the fruits of another man’s labor.
Period.
And #11, 21 = NO IncomeTax = Sales taxes on new goods and tariffs on foreign goods should be the only way a legitimate government should be able to fund itself. - by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
#32 - Jamil Mahuad, president of Ecuador in the late nineties, did away with their income tax and replaced it with a banking services tax of 2 percent. The theory was that, doing this, all money was taxed whether legal or hot money, at the point that it entered or left the banking system. -> Leftist liberals didn't like it... [Short Must Read!] - by marron
It’s too bad we can’t hit the federal government under RICO. Income taxes and property taxes are nothing but extortion.
I trust you'll forgive me if I disagree, having retired now. I'm living on twice-taxed funds from yesteryear. No matter how paid (FICA, 1040's, whatever), I've paid in. Done deal.
To go over to a national sales tax would reload us Boomers and Silent Generation retirees, while Gen Y and Gen Z pay much, much less w/o an income tax.
I like Ari, but he has it wrong: No American should pay an income tax!
In fact, if I had it my way, we’d all pay a consumption tax, such as the Fair Tax — and we’d only pay a consumption tax.
There would be no other taxes!
Let’s get our politicians attention (a metaphoric two by four between the running lights?), and force them to replace ALL federal taxes with a consumption tax!
And, once we get ALL federal taxes replaced with a consumption tax, then we replace ALL state and local taxes (including property taxes) with state and local consumption taxes!
It is long past time to make April 15th just another nice spring day!
And throw the Marxist progressive income tax on the trash heap of history!
Amen, brother!
I agree.
If we had FairTax in place, the American economy would be roaring right now with the DJIA around 17,000. Why? Because savings and investment income will no longer be taxed, and the savings and investment rate would literally go through the roof.
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