Posted on 04/12/2009 10:25:08 AM PDT by Ladycalif
U.S. ship captain held by pirates off Somalia, has been freed, senior U.S. official says. Three of four pirates killed.
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At the upper levels, the more journalistic the broadcaster is,covering the who, what, when, where, how and sourcing things well,the more credibility they get.
One of the reasons why Rush is so intent on being right so often 98 or 99% of the time is that gives him more credibility when the drivebys come after him which they always do.
One of the reasons he is so effective is his huge numbers cover a great area. In addition the copy/cat effect of his show alone creates even bigger numbers with other broadcasters picking up on what he has done and using it as well on their shows,both radio tv and print, giving him far more import than the average broadcaster by far.
He has huge numbers sometimes in the 20-25 million arena,few if any newspapers and onoy hannity even come close to his numbers which is why they are so scared of him,he is and will continue to be a force to be reckoned with.
In essence he can have a much larger effect on the overall market for news.
From what has come out today, the SEALs did not arrive at the Bainbridge until Saturday night, long after the good captain's escape attempt. Schnookering the pirates into allowing a tow line to the Bainbridge was brilliant, whoever thought that one up is pretty slick. It allowed the SEALs to set up sniper shop on the fantail and to have a continual view through the rear window/hatch of the lifeboat.
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Agreed. This was a very impressive performance by the Navy.
“Gee, imagine that. I said it could have taken three days to get the SEAL team there. I was savagely attacked. If that is true, then it did take three days. I cheerfully admit I was estimating. But everyone told me how stupid I was and that the SEALs would have been there early on when the the escape attempt happened and were held back. Turns out they were not there, but I don’t expect the FR armchair general squadron to retract some of their attacks against me.”
You said they were not there because they needed to get their act together. I called BS on you and still do. You still have no idea the time between the SEALs having been given mission orders and their arrival.
I said they were not there because they COULD have been training, or it COULD have taken time to get the properly-trained SEALs together and in place. I was countering the unsubtantiated claims by others that Obama had been holding the SEALs back. But I was slammed and my critics all said the SEALs would have been there almost immediately. Turns out the SEALs were not there for four days, and for reasons I doubt (and hopefully for operational security purposes) we'll never know. But all the know-it-alls who attacked me were wrong on their core premise.
“But all the know-it-alls “
You were the one who came up with the 3 day period and stated you assumed they were training or doing mock-ups. You seriously need to stop watching television shows and Chuck Norris movies for your conclusions.
The SEALs train and plan to be anywhere within hours, not days. They forego family and friends, suffer high divorce rates, and beat the Hell out of their bodies all to ensure they can respond as fast as an aircraft or boat can get them there. Yet, you wrongly assume due to your influence from television and movies that they do mockups and train before they ever leave, making for days worth of delay. You are insult and put down those that can get there long before 3 days.
Yet it took them four days to arrive. That was my entire point. The know-it-alls thumped their chests and said the SEALs got there immediately, and some even claimed definitively that the SEALs had been held back from rescuing the captain during his first rescue attempt. I was simply postulating ways the SEALs could have NOT been there within a day. As it turns out, it took four days. And that means the know-it-alls were pulling their definitive claims out of their arses.
“Yet it took them four days to arrive. That was my entire point. “
OK, smartboy, why did it take them 4 days? You are stating it is because they do not have the capability to arrive any earlier. You assume wrong, yet, you just don’t get that. I don’t know what is making you so stupid but it is really working.
Since you seem to know it all, tell us when the Navy issued the order for the SEALs to embark. Go ahead, we’ll wait for that information which you do not have but claim to have.
Frankly, I would rather not know the specifics, as that has impact on revealing aspects of the operation that those outside the chain of command have no need to know.
You are stating it is because they do not have the capability to arrive any earlier.
No, I speculated as to reasons. But my critics slammed me and claimed authoritatively that, yes, the SEALs got there quickly and Obama was holding them on a leash. Turns out their authoritative statements were bunk. I at least couched my statements as speculative.
You assume wrong, yet, you just don’t get that. I don’t know what is making you so stupid but it is really working.
It is truly pathetic to see the levels of derangement folks can descend to on the internet. I speculated as to reasons to try and counter authoritative claims from others regarding claims of a quick arrival of SEALs - and those claims turned out to be bunk now that we have a few facts. Yet I'm the stupid one. Go figure. Seems to me some folks just don't have the character to admit they were wrong.
Boy, you are frothing like a rabid dog now. What we do know is that the SEALs took four days to arrive, for whatever reason - and that is about the extent I care to know. That was my entire point - at the time we were dicussing this yesterday, some were claiming authoritativiely that the SEALs got there quickly and were being held back. Turns out that authoritative claim was false. But instead of admitting that, you are reduced to playground-level taunts.
In other words, you don’t know jack. You’re just another dumb kid looking to be a know-it-all but hasn’t the experience to blow his own nose. You hang out with all the other kids on web sites geared towards wannabees looking to think they are smarter and more experienced than they will ever be.
The SEALs are stationed in that part of the world and could have been there within hours. The fact of when they showed is of no blame of theirs. It was simply when they were ordered to be there. See ya chump.
I am not blaming the SEALs. Another strawman.
And you slither off without any admission that your side was partially wrong. You have no idea about the underlying decision/transit process. I at least admit I was speculating - and entirely to provide a counter argument to a poster long gone from this thread that the SEALs could have acted within the first few hours of the crisis.
Why do you feel the need to disparage the SEALs? Were they getting to much attention for your liking? Are you some kind of Gen-Xer who has to be the center of attention? Maybe no one gave you attention for being on FR posting while they were working?
Try manning up and joining the military and getting a real education about such things instead of hanging out on the Internet talking speculation with a bunch of other wannabees.
The fact remains, the military can place special operations units anywhere on Earth within 24 hours and in most cases within 12 or less. It is what they train to do. Your assertion based on Internet chat rooms, TV, and movies that they need days to plan spotlights your ignorance of the subject.
Ahh, a new line of attack. Now I'm disparaging the SEALs. You are so blinded in your anger, you are just throwing mud now, or something that looks a lot like it.
You truly are a piece of work. You may have the last word, as worthless as it may be.
You are welcome, yeah you never know where he gets half his stuff. My guess he has been burned so many times about having bad info he watches it real close now.
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