Posted on 04/12/2009 10:25:08 AM PDT by Ladycalif
U.S. ship captain held by pirates off Somalia, has been freed, senior U.S. official says. Three of four pirates killed.
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there are millions of extortion dollars on the line for the pirates.
Tommorrow the pirates are going to be deconstructing what went wrong so they can bee better pirates the day after tommorrow.
Those 200+ remaining hostages in the hands of various pirates just had their value decreased if the pirates think they are now a liability.
I heard Joe say that the President had to come down and take care of these guys...as in, take them out. There’s an AP report somewhere on the thread with his exact quote but I’m unable to find it now.
Thanks. It was not taken as rude at all. Having followed your postings for a while, your credentials as a conservative were not being questioned. Just did not want to break proper etiquette.
Happy Easter to you as well. This special day will be very important going forward. It will demoralize our enemies, and hearten our allies. Italy is reported to be asking about some assistance with some of their nationals. The leftists are already going nuts over the use of deadly force. Patient and cooler heads will prevail.
I like that!!
“But you would not have SEALs based on foreign territory, and there are no Navy bases close-by that I know of.
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Really? Wanna research that one again and get back to us?
It was just reported the hijackers asked to be taken to calmer water....They asked to be towed.
“The nearest ones would have been in Iraq, and they could have done a practice drill or two before leaving. “
For someone who claims he doesn’t want to do factless bashing you sure state things that you don’t know anything about.
“So you could be looking at three days just to get the SEALs out to the destroyer.”
Once again talking about things you know nothing about.
Probably hard to keep pointing toward Mecca when praying if the boat is bobbing in the waves.
“And it turns out they had run out of ammo after firing on a launch approaching the lifeboat. “
Got a link to that? Are you saying we shot unarmed pirates? Are you still insinuating the Navy waiting to take action because they simply could get their shit together fast enough, yet, the pirates were at some point unarmed??
EDIT: Are you still insinuating the Navy waited to take action because they simply could not get their shit together fast enough, yet, the pirates were at some point unarmed??
Thanks..... the admiral did not mention when and how the towline was connected. I could visualize swimmers and nylon or polyester line making a hitch on a cleat or prop
A Navy spokesman said they purposely prolonged any action as long as possible. It allows them to become "friends" with the hijackers. They gave them food/medical supplies/dry clothes etc. The longer the wait the better the outcome.
As there were no news teams on the scene, I accept that whatever the official story is, it may or may not be true. We have no way of knowing, and will never know. If they make a Movie of the Week about this, the script I'd believe would go thus:
Obama refuses to allow the U.S military to make a first move. Cpt. Phillips dives off boat first time and the attempt fails. Navy SEALS are pissed. They know that if they'd at least been in the water in the vicinity, they could have taken advantage of the situation. They request having guys in the water. Obama says no, or maybe even says "Yes, but don't make the first move." SEALS are in the water regardless, and those guys aren't just going to wait around for Obama to make up his mind. They go in, grab the captain, kill three of the guys and take the other to the ship where he was supposedly negotating. The official story that the captain jumped again to protect the SEALS.
Push is going to come to shove with our military with Obama in office.
You say bargaining chip... I say warehouse of information about enemy locations, strength, weaknesses, names and faces of leaders. And then when he is weak from months of grilling and questioning without rest, THEN we use him as a bargaining chip.
I’m hearing rumors that Obama couldn’t make a decision so the military basically said “screw you dirtbag” and made the decision.
At least we can count on Bush’s mighty military to over-ride the incompetent illegal usurper when needed. And he would just as soon let them make any hard decisions.
All the American people have to do is look at Zero’s voting record. During every hard decision (also known as a vote) Zero wouldn’t vote but just listed himself as “present” or took other measures to avoid having to make a decision.
Libtards heads are exploding everywhere...LOL.
Rumors? Do tell.
Well if I were in on the planning I would think that the first early run was to test their defense. I think they saw that they all came out to start shooting. So they would run a boat back in again and they would all come out again. Targets were assigned and the sharpshooters did the rest.
You're actually in favor of the military no longer taking orders from the President?!?
I’m thinking the fourth pirate should be sent to CTU medical. Then we’d be four for four. :^)
Place a drycleaning bag over your head for thirty minutes, and come back and tell us all exactly where you heard the rumors. I call BS. I further contend that FTL is a disruptor from the left, by the tactics used.
To quote a great line from Tombstone: "You're getting a little ahead of yourselves, ain't you boys?"
I have a problem with “has been freed” in the headline.
He escaped in my opinion with the help of the navy.
“3 of the 4 pirates killed, the 4th captured, the Captain safe. What more could we want?”
Looks pretty much like we drew a straight flush on this one. Kudos to our servicemen! And, I am very pleasantly surprised that our government allowed our Navy to take out these pirate pukes. I had been saying I thought The Bamster did not have what it took to authorize such an action. He surprised me. Kudos to him, too.
The Islamofascists are going to test him on this.
OK, so what's he batting, .013? That's nothing - unfortunately he's a player/ manager and his disastrously bad decisions are sinking the whole team.
I just read where the captain of the Bainbridge ordered the shooting of the three pirates as he felt Captain Phillips was in mortal danger. He has that authority. Now it very well may be that The Bamster had nothing to do with the decision to take out the pirates. I assume the real story will eventually come out. The main thing is that Captain Phillips is safe and three of the four pirates are taking dirt naps and the fourth is probably singing like a bird to the intelligence folks on the Bainbridge.
Fair enough -- so stipulated.
I do know that the WH took the unprecedented step of having the FBI in charge of negotiations.
Fair enough -- so stipulated.
I do know that the Captain tried to escape twice.
No you don't. You know that the media has reported that he did.
Sure, the media reported that it started five days ago and that the FBI was put in charge, and there is plenty of other things or sources to corroborate that information.
There is ZERO source of corroboration for reports about the captain's actions while a hostage. We can only take the "official" word for it. Personally, I think Cptn. Phillips jumped once. If there was a second jump, it wasn't initiated by him, but by the Navy -- and that same Navy has the unworthy traitorous Marxist CIC by the balls.
Does that not mean instant pirate hamburger?
When I watched a streaming press conference earlier today, the shooters on the Bainbridge were being referred to as 'snipers' and here again:
Navy snipers on the fantail of a destroyer
In common parlance, 'sniper' usually implies a shoulder-fired weapon but given that this is the media I wouldn't parse their words too closely, given the media's history of breathtaking, laughable inaccuracy pertaining to anything involving weapons of any kind.
That being said, I'm sure that some of our Vets here can attest to a sniper's bullet turning someone's head into something pretty darned close to 'hamburger'. :-)
Sometimes there might not even be much of a head left at all.
I would also be very interested in learning what exact weapons were used but I suspect that this information 'may' not be released, as they may feel it would compromise a tactical advantage in the future.
.......At least we can count on Bush’s mighty military to over-ride the incompetent illegal usurper......
that is the most ill informed and moronic post on the thread.
God Bless the Navy on this solemn day.
Yep. It seems to me that SEAL training alone is an act of heroism.
I was just watching Fox News. They are running a special. The Naval Commander for that area said the pirates were becoming agitated, pointing weapons at the Capt. The Capt. of the Bainbridge determined Phillips was in immediate danger and gave the order. When all 3 pirates were in sight at the same time they were all shot simultaneously in the head, killing them instantaneously.
"We love all you Navy boys. Everytime we gotta go someplace to fight, you fellas give us a ride." -- US Marine Lt. Jonathon Kendrick (Keifer Sutherland), "A Few Good Men"
God bless ALL American warriors.
I see them as tearing down the country and I want everyone I can get on my side to help stop them from destroying capitalism and our free market economy to say little if anything about preservation of the constitution.
It's hard for me to get caught up in these little troll like arguments when to me there is so much at stake.
Personally, knowing what little I do know about kabar, I would never second guess the guy and always pay close attention to his posts.
This guy has been up and down the ladder and knows govt. at so many levels that few of us have had his experiences.
My hope for the future of this site and others is that we put aside petty bickering and join in on the cause which should unite all of us--preserving our way of life and advancing conservatism. Time to do away with the circular firing squads where we shoot our own.
What does that matter, all is forgotten now, Obama saved the captain:)
Oh yeah, slipped my mind,guess we will all be reminded from now until hell freezes over.
Pizza made by a Joker flown in from St Louis with 20 lbs of dough and 3 gallons of Sauce! Shame ZERO can’t find a decent PIZZA Maker in D.C.? Isn’t there at least one good Pizza maker in D.C. with all the Govt. money flying around instead of flying some Goon in from 1000 Miles away! I.ll bet there is even at least 100 great Black Pizzaria Owners in D.C. that make Pizzas 100 times better than somebody from St. Louis of all places! GEEEEZZZZ! My GOSH! Stupid IS as STUPID DOES! Flying a PIZZA GUY a 1000 Miles is the HEIGHT of STUPIDITY, IGNORANCE, ARROGANCE AND OSTANATION!
PLEASE GOD! GIVE ZERO A BRAIN QUICK!
“I’m hearing rumors that Obama couldn’t make a decision “
Didn’t the Navy say it took asking twice? Seems they had to prod the idiot.
This has been OBE’d. He only jumped once and was tied down most of the time. Three of the pirates were shot from the fantail of the Bainbridege by snipers. The Navy had an ROE to shoot if they felt the hostage was going to be injured or killed.
“but I suspect that this information ‘may’ not be released”
For that reason probably any story we hear from the Navy concerning this incident is suspect, and not that giving us a bogus story is a bad thing. I prefer them to have the advantage of secrecy versus satisfying my curiosity.
Anyone who has worked in the restaurant business can tell you that cooks -- from fry cooks to gourmet chefs -- are often genetically linked to dynamite. The very few gourmet chefs who don't have a reputation for catching fire and blowing up regularly are regarded as lucky breaks for those who work with them. A four-star restaurant chef may well fling a frying pan at an offender in the kitchen (true). I'd say that if a Navy SEAL chef served up a can of catfood with a sprig of parsley garnish, you'd better respond like it was caviar! ;^)
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Thanks for your reply.
Someone else here posted this link.
The follow-up comments are as educational as the story coverage.
I am very glad this turned out well.
However, we all must ask: Why did the pirates NOT take any American hostages for, what, 200 years?
Why now, with Obama as President?
Also, there WILL be more attacks if we do not retaliate, and I doubt that any retaliation will be forthcoming.
The FUTURE is more important than the present, in ANY terrorist or hostage situation.
I am proud of our military, and I think the entire crew of the Mersk Alabama would make great neighbors -—
But this stuff has got to stop, and the French plus the Americans have, what now? TWO successful rescues after HOW MANY Pirate captures?
HOW MANY hostages do the pirates STILL hold?
“Obama failed the test...”
As you said and O will continue to do so. We don’t have to “make up stories” we only have to pick one from many to prove his worth.
It only needs to be posted LOUD and CLEAR for all to see.
“With God and the Navy SEALs on our side”
As much as I love the SEALs and what they do, We really need the Lord. We need to listen and to follow. Even the SEALs would fail with out HIM. So the above statement is the truth.
I was not called into this discussion by dirtboy. I had read the first 100 or so comments, then came back later and read the 900 numbers. Saw this conflict and reacted. You referred to some inappropriate comments dirtboy made earlier. If you give me the numbers I will go look at them. I have a lot of tax stuff to do still or I would look myself. I don’t know if he would classify me as a “useless newbie”. After more than 3 years here, am I still a newbie?
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