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Woman Jumps to Death in Crowded Queens Mall
New York Times ^ | April 9, 2009 | Sewell Chan & Mick Meenan

Posted on 04/09/2009 10:58:56 AM PDT by Melissa 24

A woman jumped to her death in the Queens Center Mall atrium about 3 p.m. on Wednesday, landing on and injuring a high school student four levels below, officials said.

The crowds in the shopping center in Elmhurst screamed and ran, and police officers had to arrive soon to help calm the crowd.

The Queens district attorney, Richard A. Brown, said the woman was in her early to mid-50s and in the company of two teenagers when she jumped. He declined to release her identity immediately.

A waist-high glass barrier runs around each floor of the atrium. It appeared that the woman jumped from near a T-Mobile cellphone kiosk on the third floor in the center of the atrium, and landed among some teenagers using electric massage chairs on the lower level, which is below ground level.

Police officers and emergency service workers cordoned off sections of the mall and shut down some escalators leading to the lower level. The police also worked to keep onlookers back from the barriers on the floors above, where they had swarmed to get a glimpse of the confusion below.

The lower level was packed with high school students, many of them on spring break. The injured student, Derrick Muñoz, 17, a student at Amityville High School in Suffolk County, was taken to Elmhurst Hospital Center. He was expected to survive.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: mall; nyc; obamasfault; suicide
Holy Crap!

Can you imagine relaxing in one of those electric massage chairs at the mall (Personally, I would never even think about sitting in a massage chair in the middle of a mall) when all of a sudden a woman committing suicide lands on you? Geez - I'd have nightmares for life!

This woman jumped 60 feet to her death at a crowded mall...she could have maimed this kid for life.

Why would anyone but an attention ho go to a mall to commit such an act?

1 posted on 04/09/2009 10:58:56 AM PDT by Melissa 24
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To: Melissa 24

Prayers up for Derek Munoz, and for the relatives of this poor depressed woman.


2 posted on 04/09/2009 11:02:17 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama: "I don't want them punished with a baby.")
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To: Melissa 24

Attention ho, drama queen, or just an average mother of sleazy greedy teenagers raised without values or morals?


3 posted on 04/09/2009 11:02:30 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Melissa 24
Disgusting person! Suicide is the most SELFISH thing you can do and then to do it in fron of people and hurt people is doubly disgusting!

Are we SURE that the kids didn't push her over??

4 posted on 04/09/2009 11:03:13 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Melissa 24

Ban shopping malls. [/s]


5 posted on 04/09/2009 11:05:12 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Ann Archy

Obama’s fault.


6 posted on 04/09/2009 11:05:47 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Melissa 24

And why would she jump into a group of innocent people? I mean, jeez, you can see where you’re going to land from 60 feet up.


7 posted on 04/09/2009 11:06:08 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Melissa 24
...the woman was in her early to mid-50s and in the company of two teenagers when she jumped.

Teenagers will do that to you.

8 posted on 04/09/2009 11:06:26 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Ann Archy

Good point.


9 posted on 04/09/2009 11:06:49 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Ann Archy

I, too, am skeptical that the woman jumped.


10 posted on 04/09/2009 11:07:28 AM PDT by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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To: LibWhacker

Tough crowd here today.

Suicidal people are generally not capable of rational thought.


11 posted on 04/09/2009 11:08:22 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama: "I don't want them punished with a baby.")
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To: DuncanWaring
Teenagers will do that to you.

Mine had to talk me off the ledge more than once. ;-)

12 posted on 04/09/2009 11:08:46 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Obama as President is proof that GOD's judgement has come upon our post-Christian nation.)
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To: Ann Archy

She was there with two teenagers. They were probably her kids, and they will probably be scarred for life by her selfish suicide. The boy she struck “will probably survive”, but how badly did she hurt him? What emotional scars will he carry?


13 posted on 04/09/2009 11:09:07 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work Americans won't do)
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To: DuncanWaring
Teenagers will do that to you.

Some will be aghast at your monumental insensitivity, but that's funny nonetheless.

I'm sure many of us had the exact same thought.

14 posted on 04/09/2009 11:09:15 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Melissa 24
QCM:


15 posted on 04/09/2009 11:09:18 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: AZLiberty

Security camras, which are everywhere at the mall, will show what really happened.


16 posted on 04/09/2009 11:09:34 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama: "I don't want them punished with a baby.")
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To: Palladin

“cameras”. I can spell.


17 posted on 04/09/2009 11:10:37 AM PDT by Palladin (Obama: "I don't want them punished with a baby.")
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To: I see my hands

Maybe she just mis-judged the trajectory to the fountain.


18 posted on 04/09/2009 11:12:10 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: CougarGA7

Care to comment?


19 posted on 04/09/2009 11:12:55 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Melissa 24

Queens Mall? You mean the limp-wristers have their own mall?


20 posted on 04/09/2009 11:12:59 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people ----- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Melissa 24
This woman jumped 60 feet to her death at a crowded mall...she could have maimed this kid for life.

Not to mention scarred him for life. Wow. It's hard to imagine. And what about the two teens with her? And she chose such a busy time, in addition. Such a tragedy for all involved.

21 posted on 04/09/2009 11:19:14 AM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: boomop1

Obama lied; lady flied.


22 posted on 04/09/2009 11:22:22 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Ann Archy

Another thing about that... She was in her 50s, right? I doubt that she could’ve bounded over the railing in a single burst of raw power. She’d have to climb over it. That would take a few seconds at least. Yet she was with other people. Why didn’t they stop her? Maybe they weren’t close enough, but there are plenty of lines of questioning I’m sure the police will pursue.


23 posted on 04/09/2009 11:23:59 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Melissa 24

Ban buildings over one story tall. High places are inherently dangerous. Even worse, falling bodies, endanger our children.
BTW, It is pretty dastardly to go to a mall to get your chair massage.


24 posted on 04/09/2009 11:26:56 AM PDT by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Melissa 24

Screaming and running. What an effective response to stimuli.


25 posted on 04/09/2009 11:31:08 AM PDT by fortunate sun (Undermine Obama with every thought, word and deed.)
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To: Melissa 24
The crowds in the shopping center in Elmhurst screamed and ran, and police officers had to arrive soon to help calm the crowd.

What a bunch of nancies.

Were the worried more old ladies were going to drop on them?

26 posted on 04/09/2009 11:33:49 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Steamburg

Quick! pass a Federal law banning all open mall atriums and mezzanines. Call it something like “The Shopping Freedom Act.” Mall owners must now completely glass in all openings from ceiling to floor for shopper’s “protection.” failure to comply will be met with confiscation by eminent domain and stiff fines. </sarc>


27 posted on 04/09/2009 11:34:09 AM PDT by Mister Muggles
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To: Melissa 24

She just ‘dropped in’ for a little shopping.


28 posted on 04/09/2009 11:35:51 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They make take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Perhaps they dared her.

As to if she intended to jump or she was pushed, usually people who are falling and don’t want to and are afraid of death say “NOOOOOOOOO-”

If she didn’t say that, I’d say it was a safe bet she wanted to jump.


29 posted on 04/09/2009 11:37:59 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Mister Muggles

Especially high-capacity mezzanines.


30 posted on 04/09/2009 11:39:14 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: dead
Were the worried more old ladies were going to drop on them?

On the remote chance Helen Thomas might, I'd run too.

31 posted on 04/09/2009 11:40:29 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Melissa 24
Why would anyone but an attention ho go to a mall to commit such an act?
The woman probably didn't go to the mall with the intention of jumping. Acting on spontaneous impulse is common among those who kill themselves.

Prayers for everyone involved.

32 posted on 04/09/2009 11:40:56 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Tijeras_Slim

She really wanted to be on top.


33 posted on 04/09/2009 11:43:11 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Ann Archy

Hello Ann Archy.

Long time we dont speak.

“...Suicide is the most SELFISH...”

Suicide is not that simple. Folks who take their own lives generally have given signs they will. Too often, if they are bent on suicide, in the end, they can’t be stopped. They will find a way.

That poor kid...he could have been crushed by the weight.


34 posted on 04/09/2009 11:46:09 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Yes, I laughed and yes, I know I’m going to hell....


35 posted on 04/09/2009 11:47:41 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: eastsider
The woman probably didn't go to the mall with the intention of jumping. Acting on spontaneous impulse is common among those who kill themselves.

Agreed. If those were her kids with her, there's a possibility she came to a realization right then and there that maybe she couldn't afford something for them. People with a mental illness only need a small thing to break the camel's back to committ such an act.

Not to sound unsympathetic, but the economy is doing weird things to those with weak minds.
36 posted on 04/09/2009 11:52:53 AM PDT by JenB987
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I know it’s complicated, but she killed herself in front of HER KIDS....and OTHER KIDS???? Insanity or selfish? Or was she pushed?


37 posted on 04/09/2009 11:53:36 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: LibWhacker

You have to wonder if she hadn’t threatened to harm herself in the past in some sort of emotional blackmail and the people she was with disregarded this as yet another incident. She may have started to climb and fallen.

I have a friend whose mother would call him claiming she had taken pills or had turned on the gas whenever she wanted him to do something. It was a nightmare for him, she was seriously mentally ill, but she would fight treatment and get the rest of the family to side with her.


38 posted on 04/09/2009 11:54:55 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: eastsider

Ref. post #32.

You are correct.


39 posted on 04/09/2009 11:57:43 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Melissa 24

Dollars to donuts she was Korean.


40 posted on 04/09/2009 12:01:39 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Melissa 24

I actually know of a guy who was standing in line at a post office when a nearby car wreck threw one of the passengers thru a window and onto him. He was hurt pretty badly and disabled for life.


41 posted on 04/09/2009 12:03:13 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: wtc911
Dollars to donuts she was Korean.

Doing a Taepo Dong impersonation?

42 posted on 04/09/2009 12:03:42 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Ann Archy

“I know it’s complicated, but she killed herself in front of HER KIDS....and OTHER KIDS???? Insanity or selfish? Or was she pushed?”

No!!!

I am sure she was not pushed, and she was not being selfish. She simply was not in her right mind.

I had an uncle and then a first cousin who committed suicide. In the end, neither one could have been stopped. It was just a matter of time but hoping it wouldn’t happen.

In the process, they did not kill or maim anybody thank goodness.


43 posted on 04/09/2009 12:11:40 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: passionfruit
but how badly did she hurt him? What emotional scars will he carry?

Compassionate Conservatisim.

44 posted on 04/09/2009 12:19:40 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: Melissa 24

"Do your impersonation of David Caruso's career!"

45 posted on 04/09/2009 12:27:23 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Best of the day!! LOL


46 posted on 04/09/2009 12:40:00 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (My Tee shirt for 2009-2012:" I voted FRED don't you wish you did")
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To: DuncanWaring

“It appeared that the woman jumped from near a T-Mobile cellphone kiosk on the third floor in the center of the atrium...”

Maybe the massive amount of confusion when selecting a cell phone plan drove her to this?


47 posted on 04/09/2009 12:47:21 PM PDT by ILikeBourbon
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To: ILikeBourbon

Nah, that would have more likely caused her to toss the T-Mobile clerk over the rail.


48 posted on 04/09/2009 12:49:42 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

A novel variation of “going postal”.


49 posted on 04/09/2009 12:53:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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