Pelosi: 'We Want Registration'; Holder: 2A Won't 'Stand In The Way'; SAF: 'Gloves Are Off'

Second Amendment Foundation ^ | 8 April, 2009 | NA

[marktwain]

BELLEVUE, Wash., April 8 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on April 7 acknowledged that gun registration is on her agenda, days after Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters in Mexico that the Second Amendment would not "stand in the way" of administration plans to crack down on alleged gun trafficking to Mexico.

"These are alarming remarks from Speaker Pelosi and Attorney General Holder," said Second Amendment Foundation founder Alan Gottlieb. "It appears that the Obama administration and Capitol Hill anti-gunners have dropped all pretences about their plans for gun owners' rights, and it looks like the gloves are coming off."

Pelosi's revelation came during an interview on ABC's Good Morning, America. While insisting that Congress "never denied" the gun rights of American Citizens, Pelosi told Roberts, "We want them registered. We don't want them crossing state lines..." Gottlieb noted that citizens' rights do not stop at state lines.

"But that doesn't really matter," he observed. "History has shown that around the world, registration has always led to confiscation."

In Mexico, according to the Wall Street Journal, Holder was asked if the administration might encounter constitutional issues as it tries to crack down on alleged gun trafficking. His response: "I don't think our Second Amendment will stand in the way of efforts we have begun and will expand upon."

"These comments belie administration promises and Democrat rhetoric that party leaders respect the rights of law-abiding Americans to own the firearm of their choice," Gottlieb said. "They imposed registration of semi-autos in Pelosi's California and it led to a ban, but it certainly didn't disarm criminals, like the convicted felon who killed four Oakland police officers last month. We know from Holder that the Obama administration wants to renew the nationwide ban on such firearms, but that won't prevent crime, either.

"The administration and Congressional anti-gunners have declared war on gun rights," Gottlieb said. "The press seems deliberately blind to the statements from Pelosi and Holder, who blame our gun rights for their incompetence in dealing with crime. More than 90 million gun owners haven't hurt anybody, and they are tired of being treated like criminals."

The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation's oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control.

[marktwain]

In rare moments of candor, the administration exposes the first steps in its plan to disarm the American people.

[cowboyway]

"History has shown that around the world, registration has always led to confiscation."

What will history show to the future citizens of the USA?

Will it show that we let a tyranny win or will it show that we fought and defeated tyranny and returned the government to the people?

[Twinkie]

“..and women shall rule over them.”

[P8riot]

I ain’t registerin $#!t.

[2001convSVT]

Let them try. I double dare them.

[commish]

Yo Queen Nacy the Awful, I have 3 words for you - F*** Y** B****. And they go double for your little lap dog in the White House.

[ChoobacKY]

How would they enforce it if no one complied with the requirement? There are no jails big enough to hold every gun owner in the country.

[commish]

I don’t have anything to register. Sold em all last week, well all that the dog didn’t eat. :-)

[mkjessup]

Never bring a knife (or a stack of proposed legislation) to a gun fight.

[Jeff Gordon]

...and they are calling us paranoid for stocking up on arms and ammunition....

[Le Chien Rouge]

Is it time for a MILLION man(woman) gun march on DC, yet????

[Mygirlsmom]

So register them all-under the name of Mickey Mouse.

Hey, if it's good enough for Acorn......

[tatsinfla]

so they believe that if they have all legally owned guns on record then the bad guys won't use guns to commit crimes...??...genius i'm telling ya just pure genius

[EGPWS]

I ain’t registerin $#!t.

I'll register the boat that capsized will all my firearms on board. ; )

[Old Teufel Hunden]

There’s going to be a second amendment March on Washington in April 2010. Being planned now.

http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/

[Dead Corpse]

Me neither. I’ve complied with their arbitrary and capricious “laws” about as far as I’m ever going to.

[Venturer]

I lost mine in a hunting incident. There we were, out in the duck blind with every gun I own. Since there is a law saying I cannot have over 3 shots with the same gun I take them all. It was cold, so very cold, the clouds were out and the Jack Daniels we took with us for warmth wasnt getting the job done. so we decided to start a charcoal fire. We had charcoal and a cooker, for the hot dogs, you know. Well we had forgotten the lighter fluid, but there was a gas can in the truck. We liberally threw some gas on the charcoal, and lit er off.
The gasoline fire got into the brush lining the blind and before you know it we had a conflagratiom it happened so fast the dog was singed, and up the blind went with every gun I owned burning in it. I wept as the ammunition cooked off.

Yup lost every weapon I had in that fire. Thats my story and I am sticking to it.

By the way Nancy Pelosi is a greater danger to this country than Bin Laden ever was.

[Pistolshot]

Where is your line in the sand?
What are you truly willing to give up if TSHTF?
Are you willing to give up home, job, finances, to actually fight?
When do you say enough is enough to actually pull the trigger?

This is what it really boils down to. Do you have the cajones to give it all up for real rebellion?

[TLEIBY308]

I am a double son of the American revolution.I have the cajones for it.

[libs_kma]

"I don’t have anything to register. Sold em all last week, well all that the dog didn’t eat. :-"

Better tell that gubmint puke to back off if it looks like your dog's gonna belch, it could be dangerous.

[thethirddegree]

This may get very bloody.

[thethirddegree]

All with open carry.

[commish]

Better tell that gubmint puke to back off if it looks like your dog's gonna belch, it could be dangerous.

Tell me about it, he farted the other night and shot out two windows.

[ziravan]

I read somewhere that Democrats calculated in 1994 that fully half of the 54 seats they lost were directly related to the assault weapons ban - they polled that they would not have lost half of those seats, and control of the House, if it were not for that one issue.

I will be surprise if they bring this up before the 2010 elections.

That said, elections matter. The last 2 election cycles have embolden the Marxists and is coaxing their agenda from the shadows. The more these people feel their oats, the more 2010 will matter.

Conservative ideas are better for America. There’s a REASON why these people shun accurately descriptive terms like liberal and socialist and run as “moderates” and “independents”.

The blowback on these people is going to be huge. 40 seats to change the House.

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[Pistolshot]

I have ancestors that fought for the US in 1847, the Union later, others that never saw Europe in 1918, marched in Bataan, died in the Ardennes, died in a sh!thole called Khe San, and my bride served 2 tours in Gulf 1.

That should tell you what I have running in my blood.

[TLEIBY308]

There are more of us than these commies know.

[Le Chien Rouge]

Thanks!!! I was not aware and I will be attending.......

[andy58-in-nh]

It may be premature to consider such things at this moment, but your line of questioning is essentially correct: how far are we willing to let our own government go in denying rights recognized (not "granted") under our Constitution to all Americans?

The answer to this question in part depends upon how far the government is willing to push the matter and what legal recourse we still have through the ballot box and the jury box.

Either way, organized resistance is going to be necessary, with the preferred model that of Dr. King: nonviolent protest accompanied by legal challenge by institutions and individuals dedicated to our cause. But - and this is crucial - we must always reserve the right to act in defense of our own freedoms, as did our forefathers, when and if our leaders no longer represent us, but pretend to rule us.

[Dr.Zoidberg]

"We want them registered. We don't want them crossing state lines..."

FMCDH you ugly b*tch.

[Sigurdrifta]

I live in Florida, and I have a bunch of relatives in Florida (aka the “gun show loophole”).

Good luck finding my guns.

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[snowsislander]

"The administration and Congressional anti-gunners have declared war on gun rights," Gottlieb said. "The press seems deliberately blind to the statements from Pelosi and Holder, who blame our gun rights for their incompetence in dealing with crime. More than 90 million gun owners haven't hurt anybody, and they are tired of being treated like criminals."

You can become a member of the SAF by calling 1-425-454-7012.

You can also currently join the NRA for free at http://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus. The free membership is for one year, and the price of a two year membership has been reduced to only $25, a very good deal.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Somebody brought up a point I didn't even think about. These gun bans a great for Pelosi and Obama but can do nothing but hurt other Democrats reelection chances in 2010. Those Dems would even have many of their own voting against then if they supported a ban. Not to mention they could activate the largest voting block out there, the apathetic who don't vote. They are the sleeping giant.

[RedWireNut]

My earnest prayer is that wealthy patriots everywhere are buying and stockpiling guns and ammo in quantities that would cause Nancy Pelosi to buy Depends by the truck load.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Thanks!!! I was not aware and I will be attending......."

I plan on attending in Washington DC next April also. However, they are also trying to coordinate having the second amendment march on the same day in capitols and towns across the country for people who can't make it to DC. Let all of your friends know and we need to keep posting this on sites like FREEP so we have max attendence. We have to let Obama and his minions know that we are citizens and not subjects.

[Northern Yankee]

I'm with you on this!

These people are underestimating the seething wrath that is growing against the government.

There will be a revolution if this continues.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

This will arouse the conservative base like nothing since the AWB of 1993, which gave us the Republican Revolution of 1994.

Only this time, conservatives should go with a conservative party instead of the RINO party.

[tumblindice]

“gun registration”

Sure, when I’m room temperature, on a slab.

[Publius Valerius]

How would they enforce it if no one complied with the requirement?

The same way they enforce our "voluntary" tax scheme. With the threat of prison.

[Aevery_Freeman]

HA! But you should use his middle initial: 01001000.

I call him: 464F42414D41
(010001100100111101000010010000010100110101000001)

[Northern Yankee]

LOL...

Reminds of my dad's story of a new double barrel shotgun he had acquired back in the 50's. He and his brother (Joe) were out duck hunting. They had come out to an area in their duck boats.

At the end of hunting they started back. The wind picked up while they were in the middle of the lake. Dad noticed his gun was in his brother's boat so he asked for it. Joe took the gun and handed it to dad. Dad reached out to get it. Dad was in the process of grabbing it over the water when Joe let go. Dad thought Joe had it, Joe thought dad had it, and down it went into the lake.

Dad said the lake was "Too damned deep" to ever hope of getting it again.

It eventually became the humorous story to tell around the table over dinner.

Dad, being a God fearing man, never let that come between them. He said it's just a gun. Love of family is more powerful than anything material.

[Condor51]

Your 'Somebody' is missing another point.
By then (2010) The Kenyan and Pelosi will have *immigration reform* (amnesty) passed. (see drudge and FR threads)

That's another 20-30 million RAT voters. So they have nothing to fear.

If an illegal broke gun laws (and a gazillion others), having a piece of paper making them legal citizens won't make bit a difference to them regarding firearms - they'll still buy their guns on the street if need be.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Just try it.

[Thank You Rush]

“”We want them registered. We don’t want them crossing state lines...””

We don’t care what you want, Nancy. We also want you to jump in the ocean - we’d even be happy if it were the Potomac.

[Condor51]

*** Yup lost every weapon I had in that fire. Thats my story and I am sticking to it. ***

Wow that's some story and I feel for ya.
I lost all my guns in a Clothes Dryer accident.

One day a few years back I was cleaning them all and put them in the Clothes Dryer on 'Low' to evaporate some excess Hoppes #9. Well, when the cycle ended I opened the dryer door and.. POOF ... they were all gone?!? Darnedest thing I've ever seen.

But the real puzzle was, some lost socks from 1989 reappeared!

I never reported this to the Police as I was too embarrassed. But that's my story and I'm sticken to it.

I'm seeing more and more 'lost gun' stories since the Kenyan was (cough) 'elected', its kinda odd ;-)

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Remember their own words, if they cannot take away our guns, they will take away our ammunition first. Or, try to make it financially impossible to afford or possess that ammunition.

[ClearCase_guy]

I have no expectation of any meaningful elections in the future. 2010 and 2012 mean nothign to me — I already know who won.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Does anyone have the original GMA video?

[ziravan]

So they have nothing to fear (in the 2010 elections)

I disagree. My current Congresscritter had an "F" rating with the NRA when he was more or less in a "liberal" district. Then Delay's redistricting plan occurred in 2003, putting Chet Edwards in a much more conservative district. In the meantime and over time, his rating improved to "C-", "B", and now, "A". I'm not saying that I would trust a man whose opinion on gun control is dictated by conversions of political convenience (indeed, I'm running against him in 2010).

What I AM saying is that you better BELIEVE that Chet Edwards is VERY worried about what Nancy and Barry are doing to his re-elections chances.

So far as the immigration issue, that will only serve to bring out even MORE votes AGAINST this Administration, not for it. There is no mechanism to get illegals to the polls in 2010 - the culture in that crowd of avoiding government interaction is working and will continue to work against the Democrats, not for them. So will the outrage this issue will bring to the surface. This is NOT a strictly Conservative issue. Just like the 2nd Amendment, there are plenty of people in the middle and in the other party that are strongly opposed the Administration on this issue. CIR didn't fail because Conservatives and talk radio banded together (as some in both parties would have you believe). It failed because the center held - both parties wanted it, and both were ultimately too afraid of their OWN constituencies to pass it.

[y6162]

“Let them try. I double dare them.”

Cops are going to have to fight door to door to confiscate our guns. It will make the marines taking Falujah look like a day at the beach.