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Doctor Mehmet Oz Tells Oprah's Audience Embryonic Stem Cell Research Debate is Dead
Life News ^ | 4/7/09 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/07/2009 4:31:11 PM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A recent appearance by Dr. Mehmet Oz, a cardiovascular surgeon at Columbia University and a regular on Oprah Winfrey's popular eponymous television program, is generating buzz within pro-life circles. During the program, Oz told Americans the truth about embryonic stem cell research.

Oz made it clear that the "stem cell debate is dead" mostly in part because embryonic stem cells have yet to catch up to their adult stem cell and iPS cell counterparts.

The comments are drawing interest because Oz made them in front of the iconic television personality and embryonic stem cell research advocate Michael J. Fox who has warped and twisted the positions of pro-life advocates during previous elections.

"The problem with embryonic stem cells is that embryonic stem cells come from embryos, like all of us were made from embryos, and those cells can become any cell in the body," Oz explained.

"But it's very hard to control them and so they can become cancer," Oz added, pointing to the efficacy problems of the cells causing tumors after injection into animals during experiments.

Oz went on to talk about the new science of induced stem cells made by reverting skin and other adult stem cells into an embryonic-like state without the destruction of human life.

He said he believes researchers are within ten years of making major breakthroughs using adult stem cells, which have already helped patients with more than 100 diseases and conditions.

"I think we are single digit years away from making a big impact in the lives of Parkinson's disease (victims) but also diabetics, heart attack victims, people who have had a lot of problems," he said of the potential success of adult stem cells.

Those successes could be even sooner than Oz thinks.

In what is believed to be the nation's first such procedure, doctors in Texas were recently able to successfully use adult stem cells from a patient to treat the effects of his stroke.

Doctors removed the stem cells from the patient's bone marrow in the leg, then separated or purified the stem cells and intravenously returned them to the patient within a few hours.

Because they are the patient's own stem cells, rejection was not an issue as is the case with embryonic stem cells.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adultstemcells; embryonicstemcells; mehmetoz; moralabsolutes; oprah; prolife
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It's about time the truth was told to a national audience.
1 posted on 04/07/2009 4:31:11 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 04/07/2009 4:32:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 04/07/2009 4:32:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

If anyone can find a video of this, I’d sure like to see this.


4 posted on 04/07/2009 4:33:43 PM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: wagglebee

Well if that’s true, then funding will dry up.


5 posted on 04/07/2009 4:36:13 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: gondramB

Since when did that ever stop a government boondoggle?


6 posted on 04/07/2009 4:37:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Since when did truth ever stop a government boondoggle?
7 posted on 04/07/2009 4:45:06 PM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot child is in charge!)
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To: wagglebee

My unstudied opinion is that an embryonic stem cell desperately “wants” to become a baby. If it can’t, it becomes a tumor. That is the long and short of it.


8 posted on 04/07/2009 4:45:38 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Sun Tzu "The Art of War")
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To: wagglebee
adult stem cells, which have already helped patients with more than 100 diseases and conditions.

That's quite amazing. I knew it was a lot, but I had no idea it was that many.

The fact that adult stem cells have already helped patients with more than 100 diseases and conditions, and yet the government's funding goes to embryonic stem cells , which has yet to help anyone, is so typical.

9 posted on 04/07/2009 4:47:23 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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To: gondramB
If embryonic stem cell research successes are falling behind those successes derived from adult stem cells we must simply increase funding for embryonic research, because we know this will work eventually. How can MJ Fox and Christopher Reeves be wrong? This will be the argument of the pro-abortion gang.
10 posted on 04/07/2009 4:47:33 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: gondramB
Well if that’s true, then funding will dry up.

Private funds will dry up, but i will bet the government earmarks money that will have to be spent on embryonic stem cell research. So even though it makes no sense, embryos will be killed for no real purpose.

11 posted on 04/07/2009 4:48:08 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Huskrrrr

>>If embryonic stem cell research successes are falling behind those successes derived from adult stem cells we must simply increase funding for embryonic research, because we know this will work eventually. How can MJ Fox and Christopher Reeves be wrong? This will be the argument of the pro-abortion gang. <<

Well they may make the argument that the Federal government cut off funding for embryonic stem cell research for 8 years so of course its fallen behind.


12 posted on 04/07/2009 4:49:42 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: wagglebee

I bet she looked like she took a hit on that one. I agree. It’s time to start telling the truth.


13 posted on 04/07/2009 4:50:14 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: wagglebee

Who knew? I'm delighted that he is standing up for the scientific truth. Oz is a Turkish-American educated at Harvard, and University of Pennsylvania's Medical School and Wharton School of Business.

14 posted on 04/07/2009 4:50:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: wagglebee

Did they get a reaction from any California taxpayers? They were delighted to put up $3B for an Embryonic Stem Cell Research Initiative that was cooked up solely as way to poke George w. Bush in the eye after he came down against using federal money to establish any more ESC lines.

Seems to me that the good doctor just told them they were conned. But then I’m a cynic.


15 posted on 04/07/2009 4:51:22 PM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: wagglebee

http://www.beretta-online.com/wordpress/index.php/yay-for-stem-cell-research-but-why-bring-embryos-into-it/

This guy totally nails it — anyone still after embryonic stem cells at this point may (but not necessarily) just want to kill babies. Or be intellectually incoherent. Or both.


16 posted on 04/07/2009 4:53:24 PM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: wagglebee

I wrote Mr. Michael J. Fox a letter in 2006 stating that he was so much in support of embryonic stem cell research he should he impregnate his wife and then “harvest” stem cells from their unborn child.

He and his wife have 4 children so they are clearly fertile.

I told him that it would do wonders from his cause if he would step up to the plate and show everyone how it’s done.

Surprisingly he’s never answered.


17 posted on 04/07/2009 4:53:38 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal
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To: gondramB

Good point! Also this issue has been such an “In your face Bush” weapon, I can’t see the left letting it go. So much for good science dictating where funding is directed.


18 posted on 04/07/2009 4:55:49 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: gondramB

The adult cell breakthrough was a Japanese thing. No dough from Uncle Sam involved.


19 posted on 04/07/2009 4:56:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: wagglebee
Well, Dr. Oz is technically correct. However, free and easy access to birth control has not stopped abortions. While it may seem a strange analogy, it's simply a fact that the superiority of using adult stem cells will not stop some researchers from continuing to make embryonic cells do what they want them to. Some scientists simply cannot let something go when they believe it should theoretically work and they want it to so badly.

Embryos will continue to be experimented with because the lure of being able to use them for "spare parts" is simply too much for some people who aren't capable of comprehending the horror of what they are actually doing.

20 posted on 04/07/2009 4:57:06 PM PDT by PLK
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To: Albion Wilde

He doesn’t look like a Muslim!


21 posted on 04/07/2009 4:58:13 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: Balding_Eagle
The fact that adult stem cells have already helped patients with more than 100 diseases and conditions, and yet the government's funding goes to embryonic stem cells , which has yet to help anyone, is so typical.

I think the government has been funding Adult Stem Cell research.

22 posted on 04/07/2009 4:58:20 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: wagglebee

Unfortuntely Obama has cut the federal funding that would help bring the cures from adult stem cell research.


23 posted on 04/07/2009 4:59:23 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: All
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24 posted on 04/07/2009 5:00:25 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: PanzerKardinal

25 posted on 04/07/2009 5:03:16 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Doe Eyes
I think the government has been funding Adult Stem Cell research.

What about the lines of embryonic stem cells available at the National Institute of Health? Remember those? Were those all used up??

President Bush kept making the point that embryonic stem cell research was still available to those interested because those lines of cells existed and could be used in federally-funded studies.

26 posted on 04/07/2009 5:04:39 PM PDT by PLK
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To: mbraynard

There’s really no need for that.


27 posted on 04/07/2009 5:10:11 PM PDT by TankerKC (Revenge and Envy--the new Principles of Freerepublic?)
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To: Reagan69

http://www.oprah.com/media/20090319-tows-dr-oz-brain


28 posted on 04/07/2009 5:19:42 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: PLK

“Embryos will continue to be experimented with because the lure of being able to use them for “spare parts” is simply too much for some people who aren’t capable of comprehending the horror of what they are actually doing.”

I won’t be surprised if, after people start getting cancer from the embryonic stem cells, John Edwards leads the law suits against the very researchers he was championing.


29 posted on 04/07/2009 5:23:36 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: GOPGuide

Well, Islam is a religion, not a race, so there are white, black, brown muslims, etc, even though many people think of Arabs and Islam as synonymous. He’s Turkish, so yes he probably is a Muslim, but there are Turkish Christians and probably Turkish Jews as well, so it’s not safe to assume he’s even a Muslim really.


30 posted on 04/07/2009 5:24:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Since when did that ever stop a government boondoggle?

Never.

Look at the stupidity of the global warming sturm und drang. It has so many vested interests vying for government money that it will never go away.

Not even when we wind up deep in another ice age.

31 posted on 04/07/2009 5:27:17 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Boogieman

I’m thinking he was joking. His religion and, frankly, his views on the ethics of embryo experimentation are irrelevant. What is relevant is that he chose to be intellectually honest to Michael J. Fox’s face, when it must have been very seductive for him to blow smoke like everyone else has been.


32 posted on 04/07/2009 5:28:35 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: wagglebee
But they don't want adult stem cells...
They want embryonic stem cells.
So that they can continue to promote & profit from abortion and hide big sums of money in their "research".
33 posted on 04/07/2009 5:35:34 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: GOPGuide

I don’t believe that he is; if you read the link I provided, he mentions being inspired by the works of the Swedish mystic Swedenborgian, who was a Christian.


34 posted on 04/07/2009 5:38:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: soccermom

BTTT


35 posted on 04/07/2009 5:39:39 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Doe Eyes
I think the government has been funding Adult Stem Cell research.

Thanks, I've learned two things on this thread!

36 posted on 04/07/2009 5:43:16 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If Liberals would pay their taxes, there would be no deficit..)
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To: chris_bdba

Unfortuntely Obama has cut the federal funding that would help bring the cures from adult stem cell research.

If they can’t legitimize the killing of the innocent through abortion, how can they legitimize tyranny?


37 posted on 04/07/2009 5:57:23 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: wagglebee

“The problem with embryonic stem cells is that embryonic stem cells come from embryos ...but it’s very hard to control them and so they can become cancer.” Oz explained.

That’s not the right reason to oppose it. Embryonic stem cell research is wrong, not because it’s difficult or ineffective, but because it’s morally wrong. It’s no more morally acceptable to kill babies by way of an abortion to get embryonic cells for research than it would be to kill two year old children to get them. Life begins at conception.


38 posted on 04/07/2009 5:59:07 PM PDT by mcswan
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To: Ole Okie
Today it is about the money following the politically correct ideology. Then it is labeled as “science”. Everything is about ideology these days. The left ideology is organized in of all the western nations. They shape the policies of the United Nations and then use this promote the illusion that EVERYBODY agrees with them.
39 posted on 04/07/2009 6:01:21 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: soccermom

Yes, I saw that show last week when Dr. Oz said that. I did a double take at the screen because I thought Oprah was quietly having a cow. And Fox didn’t have too much to say after that either. I hope Dr. Oz’s days aren’t goling to be numbered on the show because of it.


40 posted on 04/07/2009 6:02:02 PM PDT by growingpains
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To: gondramB
Well they may make the argument that the Federal government cut off funding for embryonic stem cell research for 8 years so of course its fallen behind.

That was precisely the argument made. My lib cousin is a devote of all things Oprah and that is what she said.

41 posted on 04/07/2009 6:10:54 PM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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To: wagglebee

Long overdue. When Bush addressed this issue, it was already well known that embryonic stem cells have failed to live up to any part of the hype about them. Bush was right to ban embryonic stem cell research and fund other stem cell research that has proven more promising.


42 posted on 04/07/2009 6:13:14 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: growingpains

Well Oz does sell diet books (”fad diets” as the notoriously unbiased Wikipedia reports). That and Oprah go together like a hand and a glove.


43 posted on 04/07/2009 6:15:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Swedenborgian, who was a Christian
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I didn’t know ths.


44 posted on 04/07/2009 6:28:37 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: mcswan
OK -- that is our reason to oppose it. But I see nothing wrong with making medical arguments against it as well.
45 posted on 04/08/2009 6:11:09 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: Boogieman
Turkey consists of the peninsula Asia Minor, plus a small part of Thrace in Europe. Asia Minor consisted of a large number of independent states, most of them inhabited by different peoples of Indo-European descent. It was absorbed into the Persian, Alexandrian, and Roman Empires, and, along with the Balkans, formed the heartland of the Byzantine Empire. Eventually it was overrun by people from Asiatic Turkey, and became the heartland of the Ottoman Empire. The Turks were a small part of the populations of most of the Empire, where Turkish was not spoken, but were a substantial portion of the population of Asia Minor, along with people of Greek descent, language, and religion. Over the centuries the bulk of the original peoples became absorbed into the Turkish or the Kurdish populations, or remained Greek in identity. At the end of WWI the losers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, and the Ottomans), were divided up into numerous independent states, according to ethnicity, religion, and the interests of the winning powers. The remnant area was at first called the Muslim people of Asia Minor, until Attaturk proclaimed the Turkish Republic and drove the Europeans, including the Greeks, out of the country. The result is that the Turkish people are majority Turk and minority Kurds, but both groups are largely of Indo-European ancestry, and overwhelmingly Muslim, mostly speaking Turkish. Most likely Dr. Oz, or at least his parents, is a Muslim, but of European ethnicity.
46 posted on 04/08/2009 8:17:21 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: wagglebee
Good for Dr. Oz. Didn't think I'd ever hear myself saying that.

However, his career trajectory may be seriously altered by this bit of truth-telling...
47 posted on 04/08/2009 8:20:26 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: ElayneJ
Swedenborgian, who was a Christian...
I didn’t know ths.

Swedenborgian, and the neoChristian movement he started.

48 posted on 04/08/2009 8:21:45 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: mbraynard

Do you find it odd that actors put on glasses and the whole world thinks of them as smart?


49 posted on 04/08/2009 8:27:05 AM PDT by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: Albion Wilde

interesting. I thought he was something like a mystic instead.


50 posted on 04/08/2009 9:01:43 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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