Posted on 04/06/2009 1:48:41 PM PDT by maggief
ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. – Windmills off the East Coast could generate enough electricity to replace most, if not all, the coal-fired power plants in the United States, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said Monday.
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Salazar could not estimate how many windmills might be needed to generate 1 million megawatts of power, saying it would depend on their size and how far from the coast they were located.
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My suggestion, put them next to the drilling rigs.
Salazar is a delusional fool. 3000 coal utilities replaced by wind ? Think about it.
BULL CRAAAAA-HAAAAAA-HAAAA-HAAAAA-HAAAAAAP.
Thank you.
For God's sake man, do some math.
He was just reading the TelePrompTer No one ever said Ken was a sharp pencil.
80 percent of the wind generated power requires fossil fuel back up. In Texas, this figure is > 90 percent.
LOL
I’m 100% sure this is satire.
And Kenny will have his windmills guarded by swimming uniforms and flying dragons! Get real! If we try this, we will be at the mercy of Iranian tanker captians on a three day bender.
> Yes, and if you had enough monkeys with typewriters, you
> could totally replace the US press corps.
Ummm, maybe you should have picked a less likely probability.
Don’t force me to post a picture of Helen Thomas.
Windmills are a big part of our “stimulus” here in Michigan. The problem is, they’ll be manufactured in Spain and only require a small number of people to maintain them.
However they claim there’s a deal in the works to license their manufacture here in Michigan but no one is saying exactly what “in the works” means.
The inmates are running the insane asylum.
I suggest putting propeller beanies on government workers wired to the grid. When the wind is blowing they can all bend over at the same time and send some peak power to the folks.
I’m 100% sure this is satire.
This administration is so bad, it is impossible to tell anymore.
Iv’eseen elsewhere, Salazar comment mathed out: GE windmill 3.4 MW, 104 meter blade sweep, over 600’ tall,
for the Salazar goal: 277,777 windmills that size required.
Atlantic coast line @ 2400 miles, so that’s over 100 per linear mile, not allowing for ship channels and views reserved for politicals.
The good news, that’s also potential for 277,777 possible sites for oil gas drilling. Now, if only? some $$ wise person can combine these efforts as a joint venture.
I'd like to ask him what percentage of his new wind turbines would be baseload vs. cycling units. I think there would just be a blank stare on his face.
didn’t ted kennedy turn down a wind mill project off cape cod?
Those solar panels arrays at Denver airport in his district were very effective the other day in catching snow.
April 6, 2009
Calling it responsible energy development, Governor Jon S. Corzine today toured Jersey-Atlantic Wind Farm with Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. Salazar was in Atlantic City for a conference regarding Energy Development on the Outer Continental Shelf.
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Jersey-Atlantic Wind Farm, the state’s first wind farm, is comprised of five 380-foot high turbines. The energy produced by the turbines powers approximately 2,500 homes. Estimates indicate that energy produced by the wind farm will save the energy equivalent of 23,613 barrels of crude oil.
Governor Corzine’s Energy Master Plan lays out an aggressive strategy to harness offshore energy resources. Released last fall, the plan set a goal for the state to have 3,000 megawatts of offshore wind constructed off of the New Jersey coast by 2020, and 1,000 megawatts by the end of 2012. To meet these goals, the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities has awarded $12 million in rebates to three offshore wind developers to construct 1,000 megawatts of offshore wind by the end of 2012.
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Yes, and if you had enough monkeys with typewriters, you could totally replace the US press corps.
Oh crap.. I thought that was already done...I thought that was how we ended up with an idiot as President...
And if one big good old fashioned hurricane decides to go crawling up the Atlantic Coast as they have in the past?
the resulting tidal waves of seagull innards washing up on Jersey Beaches will make the Exxon Valdez look clean by comparison....
Salazar’s science IQ is right up there with the Obamaloon. Give either of them wires, batteries, and a light bulb...and they couldn’t get any light.
So assume the low end at 2 megawatts realistic and you get the 500,000.
Now what happens when the wind stops? Or better yet when the wind is over 40 mph. What is the backup plan. Everybody's house goes dark? Traffic lights go off?
Salazar is a moron and is pushing windpower because windmills are a big business scheme in Colorado this year.
Windmill + electrodes = desalinated water.
Don’t waste time, effort and copper connecting them to the grid.
The List, ping
At a conservative cost estimate of $3M per MW installed, this will run three trillion dollars. Which as point of reference is more than the entire federal budget pre-Hussein.
Considering this will be a federal program with the emphasis on melanin quotas and congressional patronage instead of on the bottom line, the real cost will end up at least double that.
Where does this idiot think we will get our power from when the wind drops (hasn’t he heard of the Bermuda high?)
Great idea!
those coal fired plants could be converted to coal gasification plants and coal would be converted to natural gas with no harmful emissions!
...and if we install solar concentrators on the beaches, we can save all the energy now used to manufacture glass in factories!
But haven’t you freepers read that these windmills will supply 100% of the power we need. It’s true.
The liberals have redefined our usage needs.
We don’t need our current usage. Go figure about 10% of what we use today, that’s all we will get.
Be happy or move to another planet.
It's Ma Chalmers and her soybeans.
Salazar isn't the sharpest pencil in the drawer, is he?
According to the global warming idiots CO2 is a greenhouse gas. How do you avoid CO2 emissions?
So, take the number of turbines you think you need to replace the generating capacity of a 100% duty cycle power plant (like a coal-fired baseload generator) and multiply that by 4 to get the same output. That same 300,000 turbine wind farm really needs to have 1,200,000 wind turbines to replace the equivalent coal-fired power plants' energy output.
Of course this does not take into account any time-of-day shifting required to keep the wind-generated energy available 24/7.
I thought the soybeans rotted. And how are we supposed to transport them around the country if the Taggart Bridge is down?
Unless a lot of them traumatically self destruct and need to have most of their parts replaced. Then there will be lots of work.
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/25/wind-turbine-self-de.html
At least he is no longer messing things up for us here in Colorado.
For effective output, I think you have to use around 30 percent of the mindmills max rating.
He cannot possibly believe this stuff? California has this thing about buying green power... they buy most from out of state now and the get some of their power from Utah where they have a limited number of windmills which makes CA feel good about buying green energy... of course most of the energy is actually from coal power, but the minimal windmills allows them to play pretend...and those windmills are something like $6 million each!
Salazar; Colorado's loss became everybody's loss.
This is the guy who shut off oil shale in the United States.
If wind energy worked, which it does only poorly, it would replace coal and natgas, which we have plenty of.
It will do nothing, not one thing, to reduce the amount of fuel we import from the middle east. Oil shale would do that, offshore drilling would do that, coal-to-diesel plants would do that. Wind energy and solar energy will not reduce our use of middle east oil by a single drop.
The selling point for wind energy is that it is supposedly a clean source of fuel. It is anything but. It consumes enormous amounts of land per watt generated.
He wants to put them offshore? Get real. The cost of the offshore infrastructure will kill it. And these things have to be maintained. I’d like the chopper contract for ferrying the maintenance workers out to service these monstrocities.
Smart Grid for the stupid people who think this is a good idea.
The ammonia that is produced is sold to fertilizer company and the noble gases are sold to the circus for balloon inflation!
BTW were we to collect the wind energy that exists in the Plain States from North Dakota to Texas we could exceed our needs for electrical energy. Here's a thought. wind Mills on the Texas coast could hyddrolize water. The Hydrogen and Oxygen could be shipped to those desert areas in the Texas panhandle and New Mexico. It would be pumped into fuel cell generators to bring electricity to those communities. The byproduct of this electrical generation is PURE WATER. It could be fed to the people and animals or used to water hydroponic farms!
We have the skills we just need to get the envirowackos and STUPID policitians outta the way!
Now your talking.
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