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German police accuse Kurdish men of "honour killing"
Monsters and Critics ^ | Apr 2, 2009

Posted on 04/04/2009 11:44:31 PM PDT by george76

German police charged Thursday that the grisly death of a 20-year-old ethnic Kurdish woman had been an 'honour killing,' and that her brother had confessed to the crime.

Germans have been outraged at a recent series of execution-style honour killings of young women by immigrant families.

Police said the family had attempted to force Gulsum into a planned marriage and then discovered she was not a virgin and had undergone one or more abortions.

Gulsum had left home last year with the help of welfare officials and moved to a safe house, but then returned home to Rees.

Honour killings occur in conservative central Asian societies which view female premarital sex as a stain on their reputation.

In a similar case, a 24-year-old ethnic Tajik youth from Afghanistan was convicted in February of stabbing to death his schoolgirl sister, Morsal O, aged 16, in Hamburg last year.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Germany; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; honourkilling; honourkillings; islam; kurds; muslim; muslims
" Honour killings occur in conservative central Asian societies ..."

Muslims ?

1 posted on 04/04/2009 11:44:31 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Over the past two years...the Germans have been busy identifying these episodes and trying the folks for major crimes. The Islamic community is getting heat for not integrating into German society.


2 posted on 04/04/2009 11:50:07 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: george76

You asked — “Muslims ? “

Actually, Kurds seem to hate Muslims.... LOL...

I remember about a Kurdish girl being stoned to death (a very young girl, maybe 15 or 16 or so) because she dated a young Muslim boy.... The pictures of her head getting smashed and blood running from her head was on the Internet, a bunch of Kurds taking pictures of her with their cel phones... ugghhh... a bad sight...

So, it would appear that Kurds don’t like the Muslims that well, but they seem to like the practice of honor killings, even if they aren’t Muslim...


3 posted on 04/05/2009 12:19:16 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: pepsionice

You said — The Islamic community is getting heat for not integrating into German society.

I can understand that for the Muslim community, but what about the “Kurds” — since they aren’t Muslim? Is the same thing happening with the Kurds, even though they aren’t Muslim?


4 posted on 04/05/2009 12:20:57 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: george76
to me an honour killing is vengence for something very bad a person has done to your loved one.
5 posted on 04/05/2009 12:26:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: wardaddy

They have a very strange concept of love by our standards, it will allow a young man to kill his mother, or a sister, if they “shame” the reputation of the family.


6 posted on 04/05/2009 12:57:10 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: george76

C’mon, George. You have to get with the program. The problem in the world isn’t Muslims, it’s conservatives. You’re never going to get your MSM gold star if you don’t understand that.


7 posted on 04/05/2009 2:28:37 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Star Traveler
Today, the majority of Kurds are officially Muslim...
---Kurds
8 posted on 04/05/2009 2:30:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Star Traveler

Most Kurds are Muslim.


9 posted on 04/05/2009 2:31:40 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: pepsionice

Only libtards can support the irrational, illogical position that Muslims can be assimilated. Islam’s prime directive is NOT to assimilate. Duh.


10 posted on 04/05/2009 2:34:20 AM PDT by x_plus_one ("Salvation comes about though change in individual lives, not through the ending of unjust society")
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To: wardaddy

Exactly. True honor comes from the righteous defence of your family, friends or country... not from the cold-blooded murder of one of your own family members. One of your own FEMALE family members. It’s always females murdered and always males doing the murdering in these “honor killings”.

There’s no “honor” in the stronger brother murdering his weaker sister.

These people are suffering from a mental disease that acts as if it were demon possession. I’m not religious and I don’t believe in demons but what I’m saying is that their behavior is AS IF they were possessed by demons.

They are severly and dangerously mentally deranged and they are out there in the 10s of millions.


11 posted on 04/05/2009 2:35:38 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: george76
Honour killings occur in conservative central Asian societies ...

Conservative is a relative term. It all depends on what one is trying to conserve.

12 posted on 04/05/2009 5:52:36 AM PDT by Salman
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You said — Most Kurds are Muslim.

The following is what I would refer to, and it’s exactly those people who did the “honor killing” that I referred to — of the young girl going out with that young Muslim boy. She was killed for going out with that Muslim boy, and also wanting to get married to him.

I think the *key* in understanding that “phrase” you presented to us — is the word “officially* ... LOL... [wink, wink]


The original religion of the Kurds was Yazidism, a religion greatly influenced by Jewish, Zoroastrian, Christian and Islamic beliefs.[82][84] However, there are significant differences between Yazdanism and Zoroasterianism, such as the belief in re-incarnation. Most Yazidis live in Iraqi Kurdistan, in the vicinity of Mosul and Sinjar.[85] The Yarsan (or Ahl-e Haqq) religion is practised in western Iran, primarily around Kermanshah.


From the section that says Yazdanism [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_people [


13 posted on 04/05/2009 7:28:22 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler; fieldmarshaldj

Kurds are almost all Muslims.

the largest community outside Near Asia is here in Nashville...so far no honour killings but plenty of gang activity

some of the Kurd kids cliqued up in rough public schools fro self preservation but I think it goes beyond that


14 posted on 04/05/2009 10:09:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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To: wardaddy

You said — Kurds are almost all Muslims.

I think most people are misunderstanding the Kurds, actually, in terms of being Muslim, but not in terms of their “cultural” actions, which do include the honor killings, to be sure...


15 posted on 04/05/2009 10:15:27 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Interesting. Thanks for posting that. I didn’t know.


16 posted on 04/05/2009 3:09:09 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Oh..., and a note here on the Kurds in Iraq. They’ve been our greatest supporters in Iraq. They really like having us over there and they’ve never been a problem. Saddam Hussein really oppressed them, and they were glad when we got rid of him.


17 posted on 04/05/2009 4:08:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Kurds hate Arabs, but most Kurds are Muslims.


18 posted on 04/05/2009 4:58:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Being condemned for corruption by Mexico is like being lectured on morals by the adult film industy)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Note post #13...


19 posted on 04/05/2009 5:09:07 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Noted.


20 posted on 04/06/2009 3:12:43 AM PDT by samtheman
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