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Lobster Industry Seeking Bank-Style Bail Out
CBC ^ | April 1, 2009

Posted on 04/02/2009 4:20:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Fearing a crash of prices, lobster fishermen and processors in eastern Canada are looking for bridge financing from the federal government similar to that being offered other industries around the world.

Processors and fishermen made presentations on the troubles in the industry to the federal fisheries standing committee in Charlottetown Tuesday. With lobster season opening in about a month, processors still have large inventories in their warehouses. The industry fears the opening of the spring season will take the bottom out of prices.

"Lobsters are going to be worth nothing," said fisherman Wayne Campbell.

"Hate to say that. I preached that we're not supposed to say that. But anyway we'll see, won't we?"

Processors won't say how much frozen lobster they have in inventory, but it was about $30 million in total in January. It's the most ever going into the opening of a spring fishery, said Mark Bonnell of Mariner Seafoods in Montague, P.E.I. Processors have lots of lobster in storage, and more will be coming in soon.Processors have lots of lobster in storage, and more will be coming in soon. (CBC)

Bankers are hesitant to extend loans to processors to buy more lobster.

"Government's got to move pretty fast here because in four weeks time we're gonna have lobsters coming ashore," said Bonnell.

"Not a lot of packers have the financing in place because of the way the banking industry has been."

MP Lawrence MacAulay, who represents the Cardigan area, helped bring the committee to eastern Canada and admitted while the trip is useful to bring new information to MPs, any recommendations from it won't be made in time to help this spring.

Still, he insists some aid must come.

"We're talking about bridge financing for other major companies across the country and across the world. But we happen to have an industry here too and we need support," said MacAulay.

There are already signs processors are expecting a troubled season. Ocean Choice, P.E.I.'s largest processor, has announced one of its plants in eastern P.E.I. will not be opening this year.


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1 posted on 04/02/2009 4:20:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

i will personally bailout the lobstermen....market price for 1 1/4 chicken lobsters is what maybe 3.99?.....I’ll go 4.50 - its still cheaper than decent beef....deliver it to Rochester NY - I’ll be the one in the hot tub full of butter


2 posted on 04/02/2009 4:27:04 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

I like my lobsters 2 1/2 to 3. I’ll help bail them out too.


3 posted on 04/02/2009 4:31:03 PM PDT by MarkeyD (OBAMA. Chains we can believe in!)
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To: nickcarraway

If they take govt money then the PETA types will demand a more humane way of cooking the poor little crustaceans.


4 posted on 04/02/2009 4:31:18 PM PDT by Klondike
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To: nickcarraway

Funny we have heard nothing like this in the New England States. Maine lobsters are the best. The article says this is about Canada.


5 posted on 04/02/2009 4:31:49 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Obama is not my president until we see his birth certificate. A real one.)
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To: nickcarraway
Last fall, chick lobsters were going for under $4 a pound in NH. I bought a half dozen, took out the meat (averaged 4-5 oz per lobster), and froze it all. Still have one or two left. Thanks for the reminder, I've been hankering for a nice lobster casserole or bisque lately.

But they have been going up. The little ones are about $6/lb now. Next fall I'll just buy one big bug at $6-7/lb, but get a LOT more meat out of it.
6 posted on 04/02/2009 4:32:54 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: nickcarraway

Let them eat Lobster!


7 posted on 04/02/2009 4:33:57 PM PDT by tubebender (99% of Lawyers give the rest a bad name...)
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To: AGreatPer
Maine lobsters are the best. The article says this is about Canada.

They're all the same, basically. We have guys who put out of Kittery, and some out of Portsmouth, hit the same damn area, traps mixed among each other, but only the ones ported in Maine can "legally" call themselves Maine lobsters. Bunch of hype, really.

Put it this way--do YOU want to pay an extra $2-3/lb for a lobster because of where the lobsterman ties up to the dock?
8 posted on 04/02/2009 4:35:43 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: MarkeyD
I like my lobsters 2 1/2 to 3. I’ll help bail them out too.

Same here. A chick lobster only gives you about 4 or 5 oz of meat, tops. A 3 or 4-lb lobster costs more per pound, but gives a much higher percentage of meat--at least 25-30 oz, meaning the price per pound of meat is much lower.
9 posted on 04/02/2009 4:37:18 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: nickcarraway
With lobster season opening in about a month, processors still have large inventories in their warehouses. The industry fears the opening of the spring season will take the bottom out of prices.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but sometimes in a capitalist society, people lower prices to get rid of excess inventory. The beauty of that solution is they might be able to bring some new people to the table (no pun intended) - people who have forgone the delights of eating lobster because of price. Some will even stay with the delicacy after the price starts going back up...

11 posted on 04/02/2009 4:41:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (The Queen gave Obama a signed photograph. What did she give President Bush?)
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To: nickcarraway

Who needs ‘em? Lobsters are just sea cockroaches.


12 posted on 04/02/2009 4:42:26 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: GOPJ

Oh, now see? There you go, making sense again!


13 posted on 04/02/2009 4:43:01 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OrangeHoof
Lobsters are just sea cockroaches.

Yes, yes they are. Tasty, tasty roaches.
14 posted on 04/02/2009 4:43:43 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OCCASparky
I will take three or four, they are very expensive in Las Vegas. I you are over stocked, pack up a refrigerated truck and bring us 20 tons or so, park on the Boulder Highway and I guarantee you.You will be out of Lobster by day's end.
15 posted on 04/02/2009 4:48:40 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: nickcarraway
There are already signs processors are expecting a troubled season.

I guess the lobstermen are in the hot water this time, instead of the lobsters.

16 posted on 04/02/2009 4:52:15 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oh my God, am I hoping for change.)
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To: nickcarraway

So? Let the lobsters enjoy the spring and not set out the traps. When the surplus is run out, restart catching them. No taxpayer money will be necessary.


17 posted on 04/02/2009 4:55:38 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: nickcarraway
What is the Lobster from So America that Costco sells? I prefer the Dungeness Crab from the waters off Humboldt Bay...
18 posted on 04/02/2009 4:55:42 PM PDT by tubebender (99% of Lawyers give the rest a bad name...)
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To: nickcarraway

Well boys, it’s called supply and demand...Where is there more value??? You making five bucks a pound for the lobster on my plate, or nothing per pound sitting in your freezer???

But then you want me to pay five bucks a pound while leaving the lobster in your freezer...


19 posted on 04/02/2009 4:56:09 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: nickcarraway

If the guys that gather lobsters could just freeze-dry them and sen them to me directly, I would buy lobster enough to eat every day.

But they can’t. I don’t know why. But if you google lobster prices, they are still around $7 or more a tail.

I’d buy 50 lbs right now, just not at the middlemen prices.


20 posted on 04/02/2009 4:57:27 PM PDT by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religeon.)
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To: OCCASparky
I always have purchased my lobsters out of Lobster Co-op.com directly from the ships in Scarborough. Until the last few years their chicks (#1.25) have ranged around $7.75 to $9.00 each. Now they are at $10.50 each plus shipping.

Those Maine lobster people just don't get supply and demand. I don't order anymore.

I used to love to drive to Maine on a week-end and stop at one of those lobster pots on the roadside. I understand that even those places are keeping the prices high.

21 posted on 04/02/2009 5:07:36 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Obama is not my president until we see his birth certificate. A real one.)
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To: BooBoo1000

Yes, but with my poker skills, I won’t be taking much money back...


22 posted on 04/02/2009 5:09:29 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Darwin Fish
If you freeze lobsters, you MUST cook them first. The best way to keep them is once they've been steamed, pull out the meat and put them in freezer bags with enough milk to cover the meat. The milk keeps the ice crystals off the meat, and can be used as part of your recipie if you're making lobster bisque, for example. Vacuum packing works as well, if you have those.

Lobsters are more expensive in the spring because they don't "run" inshore during the winter, preferring warmer and calmer deep waters. We have lots of "lobster pounds" where in September and October, lobsters can be had very cheaply. As winter goes on the price will rise due to lowering supply until spring, when the lobsters start coming back and fishermen can start going out after them again in April or so.
23 posted on 04/02/2009 5:20:55 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: AGreatPer
Some do, some don't. Like I said, they're more expensive in Spring anyway. I don't seriously look for lobster until Memorial Day.

And in that regard, yeah, I'm spoiled. I can just run down to Seabrook, Portsmouth, or Kittery and get something right off the dock and take it home, and 1/2 hour later I'm picking out lobster meat while I grill my steak on the BBQ.
24 posted on 04/02/2009 5:25:12 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: nickcarraway

We had a lobster bailout in the U.S., but the Congress put in one of those claw-back provisions.


25 posted on 04/02/2009 6:01:41 PM PDT by Nick Danger (This post is made of 100% recycled electrons)
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To: RicocheT

Problem is, lobster season is relatively short and only comes around once a year - the exact time of year depends on the area. That’s how it works in Canada, anyway. If they don’t go lobstering this season, they’ll have to wait a whole year before they can go out again. And then the boys won’t get their “stamps” so they can drink bear and collect pogey (unemployment insurance) for the rest of the year.


26 posted on 04/02/2009 7:49:18 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: AGreatPer; All
Maine Lobster Prices Plummet

Web Editor: Sarah Delage 6 months ago
Lobster is selling for just $2.75 a pound in Stonington (ME). Lobstermen are already dealing with high fuel and bait prices. Some lobstermen are setting traps closer to shore and letting them sit longer to save money on fuel and bait.

The low prices are the result of low demand for lobster. Wholesaler Hugh Reynolds said demand is falling sharply from corporate chains who usually buy their lobster six to eight months in advance "There's less of a demand primarily in the frozen sector, which would come from places like Outback Steakhouse, Red Lobster, and corporate dining chains have slacked back on their product," Reynolds said.

"We don't know whether the customers in the restaurants aren't eating them or they are financially strapped due to the credit crunch to buy a lot of inventory ahead."

Excerpt

TODAY: April 2009 Task force hears concerns from lobstermen

by Sandra Dinsmore
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Robert Beal, of the Beals-Jonesport co-op, warned, "If you cut traps, don't cut them in half; [fishermen] will go bankrupt." He went on, "I can't see trying to solve world economic problems on the backs of lobster fishermen." And Carter noted if you fish fewer traps, you haul them more often.

Another problem, that lobstermen fish in summer when product quality is at its worst, brought much discussion. The length of its coastline exacerbates Maine's problem because as one moves east the water grows colder. Stonington fisherman Bob Williams, speaking from the floor, explained, "We get the heft of [shedders] in August," but "by the time Cutler get theirs in November, the Canadians are open." Williams was saying that by November, Cutler fishermen, then selling shedders, have to compete with hardshell southwest Nova Scotia fishermen, who don't fish during shedder season.

Dana Rice, of the Lobster Institute, talked about considering joint-maketing with Canada and whether to certify the Maine lobster fishery as a sustainable fishery.

Carter, who refers to himself as an independent lobster catcher says there is "a strong lack of trust between fisherman seller and dealer buyer"."We need to be more ambidextrous. The federal government has taken that ability away from us." {I noted fresh lobster is around 7.99 a lb at the local fish market in town (harborside) which buys fresh seafood each day. The pickup trucks, backs filled with coolers, have been sitting in the closed ice cream sand parking lots selling Maine "baby" shrimp, fresh fish, scallops etc directly to the customers. Thanksgiving had lobsterman running slogans saying Eat Lobster Save a Turkey! That was the lobsterman's own creative way to stimulate their own economy, they said. The New Soft shells I still favor (less weight per lb cost too) as can get to the meat faster!

Lobstering is considered one of ehe most dangerous job in America.

Summers coming and one of the best Lobster shacks in Maine is in Wiscasset--Red's Eats on RT. 1 just before the bridge. People stand in lines for the biggest lobster rolls, fried fluffy batter clams etc and like tradition return every year--celebs make a stop, Justice Roberts ate a season ago..has been in most cuisine magazines etc..small place, BIG reputation.


27 posted on 04/02/2009 8:25:08 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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RED'S EATS

Red's boasts that each lobster roll contains all the meat from a one-pound lobster, and then some. Rolls are served with melted butter (or mayo) on the side for you to drizzle on as desired."

28 posted on 04/02/2009 8:34:13 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fanfan

Canada PING?


29 posted on 04/02/2009 8:38:32 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: fight_truth_decay

Had my first lobster roll President’s Day weekend last year! It was in NH, but this year’s roll will come from Maine when we get up there in the summer!


30 posted on 04/02/2009 9:11:21 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: tubebender
What is the Lobster from So America that Costco sells?

That'd be a Caribbean "warm water" lobster....they're ok, but priced at a fraction of such cold water tails as Australian or New Zealand.

I've been out of the business for seven years now, but cold water lobster tail importing was our flagship item. They were a commodity, and prices could vary from a low of $15.00 per pound (to the wholesaler) to well over $30.00.

Virtual fortunes would be made and lost by buying at the wrong time.

31 posted on 04/03/2009 4:34:14 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (FUBO)
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To: Nick Danger

Great one


32 posted on 04/03/2009 6:22:27 AM PDT by ninonitti
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To: fight_truth_decay
there are two places in NYC where you can get the most amazing lobster rolls on the planet.

of course, they cost $30 each. so worth it.

33 posted on 04/03/2009 6:24:35 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: MplsSteve; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...
Thanks for the ping, MplsSteve.


34 posted on 04/03/2009 7:40:28 AM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: hunter112; thefactor
You have to have that "roll"--the hot dog roll toasted on the side buttered that you only in NE. You want NO! NO! lettuce in a lobster roll like many try to claim it keeps the bread dry?? Ha!..There is mayo on the side or drawn butter not in the mix to look like you have more meat than you really do.

However, I do have a second favorite place, about the same amount of lobster (real close-chunks) but they bake their own hot dog style roll fresh each day--so the bread is fresh split at the top!! Round Pond, Maine.(New Harbor, Damariscotta area Mid coast) Can sit on the docks and bring your own wine/picnic besides. Lobster co-op there as well. A salt water aquarium for the kids to reach in and touch the crustaceans etc. Can't beat the views. Forgot the actual name but Round Pond (ocean) is a small harbor, one general store and a restaurant, co-op and the lobster shack...off the beaten path.

The meat is FRESH..not frozen.

35 posted on 04/03/2009 8:28:04 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: ErnBatavia
I always believed the colder the water the better the lobster tasted. I do not enjoy a warm water and/or frozen lobster meat. Just me. Big bowl of chunky lobster stew & buttery top...another passion.
36 posted on 04/03/2009 8:32:12 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
Ed's Lobster Bar on Lafayette St. in NYC. If you are ever in NYC, do yourself a favor...

Bring money, but it's not obscene. Very casual, too.

37 posted on 04/03/2009 8:51:01 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
Thanks.. I bet it is very good there. Lobster is not a specialty food to me as is just always been "there"...like getting a burger. But my mouth is watering now for the places I have mentioned to open up. Guests, however, always head out for that "lobster fix" first off.

I saved the address.

38 posted on 04/03/2009 8:56:33 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: OCCASparky
I grew up in New Hampshire and now live in Oregon. This winter I saw for the first time Canadian frozen lobster tails. They were sold uncooked like the spiny lobsters are. They also have been selling cooked claws.

The tails were a great product but not as good as steaming live ones. The claws were nothing to write home about. Plus, like you, I like the larger ones for the yield and just for the fun of it.

39 posted on 04/03/2009 9:24:57 AM PDT by mickey finn
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To: fight_truth_decay

I am drooling on my keyboard. Lobster and fried clams...the food of gods.


40 posted on 04/03/2009 9:31:15 AM PDT by mickey finn
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To: mickey finn
Then it's possible you can freeze JUST the tails. I know there's absolutely NO WAY you EVER freeze the whole lobster without at least blanching it first, because of the bacteria in the tomalley. In fact, they've been recommending that people not eat that for several years now..

http://www.lobsterfrommaine.com/using-frozen-lobster.aspx
41 posted on 04/03/2009 9:42:35 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OCCASparky
I think you are right. They are just dealing with their surplus by freezing them now instead of trying to sell them alive.

I love the tomalley and roe.

42 posted on 04/03/2009 10:05:44 AM PDT by mickey finn
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To: OCCASparky

The lobster shack down the street from me just opened up, i guess it’s about time for me to set out my pots. YUM!

OK, Connecticut lobster isn’t quite as good as Maine, but the difference is very slight, plus, i can get then free, for some work. They go great with the clams I dig, too.


43 posted on 04/03/2009 10:28:18 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: mickey finn
I love the tomalley and roe.

Absolutely the best part of a lobster! Everyone seems to gross out about it, though. More for me!

44 posted on 04/03/2009 10:29:07 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Ping! Wonder where I could find good lobster prices in the DC area?


45 posted on 04/03/2009 10:37:42 AM PDT by FrPR
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To: nickcarraway
Let the price on lobsters go down.

They've been overpriced for two decades. It's our turn now to benefit. We must be "fair", right?.

Two broiled lobster tails with drawn butter, a double-baked potato, homemade cole slaw, a jug of wine, a loaf of bread, and thou beside me singing in the wilderness -- oh lobsters, were paradise enow.

Leni

46 posted on 04/03/2009 10:42:14 AM PDT by MinuteGal (FR Regional Convention (southeastern states) 4/25 Orlando....Y'all Invited. Freepmail Me for Info)
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To: MinuteGal

Who needs that? Lobster rolls, people—that’s where it’s at. And until they put the warning out on tomalley, I liked using them as part of sauces more than eating it by itself. But then again, there are some old-time downeasters who still eat their “bugs” using vinegar only.


47 posted on 04/03/2009 1:19:07 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OCCASparky
Where's your romanticism?

I guess I forgot to mention the soft glow of candles on the table, LOL.

Leni

48 posted on 04/03/2009 2:37:54 PM PDT by MinuteGal (FR Regional Convention (southeastern states) 4/25 Orlando....Y'all Invited. Freepmail Me for Info)
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To: MinuteGal
Fine, fine--I'll add a side of onion rings to that lobster roll. If that ain't romance...


49 posted on 04/03/2009 3:31:53 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: OCCASparky
Hmmm, I've never seen or tasted anything like that picture. They look yummy! Must be a regional thing? I don't recognize them.

I grew up in a plains state....we hardly knew what fish was. Good old German cooking, pork, beef, ham, poultry.....huge bowls of potatoes, lots of fresh-baked bread and rolls.....and since my grandpa was a baker from the old country we always had luscious deserts and tortes from his bakery.

I never had a lobster till I was almost 30....and, of course, I was hooked. But we had broiled lobster tail in restaurants, never at home. Tasted better when we went out to eat.

Fish was something "those Catholics" ate on Fridays, LOL.

Leni

50 posted on 04/03/2009 6:58:21 PM PDT by MinuteGal (FR Regional Convention (southeastern states) 4/25 Orlando....Y'all Invited. Freepmail Me for Info)
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