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McCain Battles Party Leaders on Budget Plan
CQ Politics ^ | 2009-03-31 | Jonathan Allen

Posted on 04/01/2009 8:13:58 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Republican leaders in the Senate are clashing with John McCain, their party’s 2008 presidential nominee. He wants to offer an alternative to the Democratic budget and they don’t.

The behind-the-scenes battle is part of a larger split in the Republican Party.

Some in the GOP believe their best strategy is to resist President Obama’s agenda and take carefully chosen shots through amendments they all agree on; others want the party to do more to demonstrate how a Republican imprint would be different.

As Congress works on setting broad budget caps for fiscal 2010, McCain appears to be in the minority among Republicans, most of whom seem unwilling to stand behind a full-size alternative to the Democrats’ budget (S Con Res 13).

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 111th; maverick; mccain; mccaintruthfile; rino; rinoparty; senate; ussenate

1 posted on 04/01/2009 8:13:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: Dick Bachert; 50mm; stockpirate; Eaker; ducdriver; ChrisInAR; AvOrdVet; MaggieCarta; indylindy; ...

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—John McCain, October 2, 2008

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2 posted on 04/01/2009 8:14:28 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

‘McCain appears to be in the minority among Republicans’

As his 37% Republican vote in the primaries last year proved conclusively.


3 posted on 04/01/2009 8:18:21 AM PDT by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain: Only slightly less Democrat. The right choice for milquetoast republicans..
4 posted on 04/01/2009 8:18:28 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (What did Obama's Teleprompter know, and when did it know it...)
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To: rabscuttle385

A party with no cajones can not produce viable results. The GOP has flatlined. No life left in it I fear.


5 posted on 04/01/2009 8:18:38 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: rabscuttle385

The only way to battle the Obamabots is 100% intolerance of everything they propose.
If we refuse to compromise, they will eventually have to give in.


6 posted on 04/01/2009 8:18:41 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (To stand up for Capitalism is to hope Teleprompter Boy fails.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Based on what I’ve seen in the past year, I no longer trust ANYONE in Washington DC to do what’s best for our country.

We’ve been sold out to foreign powers and special interests.


7 posted on 04/01/2009 8:19:11 AM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: "I'll loan you all the money you need to get out of debt.")
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To: rabscuttle385

“...take carefully chosen shots through amendments they all agree on; others want the party to do more to demonstrate how a Republican imprint would be different...”

why not both??


8 posted on 04/01/2009 8:20:45 AM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: rabscuttle385

These moron fools had better get their COLLECTIVE ACT together. That has been one of their biggest weaknesses -— LACK OF ORGANIZATION AND LEADERSHIP.

They had better develop a party line that extends all the way to 2012 and stick to it. That should not be difficult to do, given what America is going to have to tolerate and survive through for four years. IMHO, Americans will long for the protection of the Constitution, their God-given freedoms, and to be free of oppressive tyranny and taxation by 2012. The GOP would do well to make use of that simple, and plain to see, scenario.


9 posted on 04/01/2009 8:21:08 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: rabscuttle385
Some in the GOP believe their best strategy is to resist President Obama’s agenda and take carefully chosen shots through amendments they all agree on; others want the party to do more to demonstrate how a Republican imprint would be different.

But none of them want to fight the dem's tooth and nail over every bill that goes against conservative principals.

Lets make a deal is the new rule

10 posted on 04/01/2009 8:22:53 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Lets make a deal is the new rule


11 posted on 04/01/2009 8:24:08 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wish McCain would STFU!


12 posted on 04/01/2009 8:24:45 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: rabscuttle385
I never thought I'd say this---

I AGREE WITH McCAIN ON THIS!

I'm tired of the Repubs not having an alternative---and being accused of just saying, "No."

I"m hearing on FX News right now that the Repubs are issuing an alternative.

13 posted on 04/01/2009 8:29:57 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: rabscuttle385
*DISGUST* Sen. Juan "Keating 5" McQueeg, Is at it again...
"Its' all about me! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!
Are yah, listening you Zer0Bambi Shills?"

14 posted on 04/01/2009 8:33:48 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: henkster
We’ve been sold out to foreign powers and special interests.

"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators." - P. J. O'Rourke


"There are two sets of rules. One set for the rulers and another for the rest of us." —Richard Yancey, former IRS tax collector

15 posted on 04/01/2009 8:36:10 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: rabscuttle385

This one is an April Fools I hope. Juan needs to go away.


16 posted on 04/01/2009 8:38:23 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: rabscuttle385

I wish this idiot would get voted out and then his daughter who can’t get a boyfriend will disappear for good.

When are the likes of him going to realise that being to the left does not win elections nor is it popular.

He needs to get out of the way and after the way he treated Sarah even the other day of not saying he would back her in an election is disgusting


17 posted on 04/01/2009 8:39:23 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Badeye

“Buchanan said McCain’s alternative would focus on spending cuts”

Who here would have a problem with that?


18 posted on 04/01/2009 8:46:55 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: lonestar

“I never thought I’d say this-—
I AGREE WITH McCAIN ON THIS!”

Ditto. It appears many didn’t bother to read the article before they commented.


19 posted on 04/01/2009 8:48:55 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: rabscuttle385

Will someone tell this dud he needs to just go away and retire?


20 posted on 04/01/2009 8:49:23 AM PDT by CajunConservative (F U 0bama)
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To: rabscuttle385; lonestar
rabs,

I agree with lonestar. This is pretty sad...

“Historically the way this has happened is the party in the minority has not offered a budget. Traditionally. the party in the minority has offered a series of amendments to try to improve the majority’s budget. and that’s the tack we have taken this year,” Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, the top Budget Committee Republican, said on the Senate floor Tuesday. “That seems like a more logical tack to me because it is a more bipartisan approach.”

“They won the election, so they get to draft the budget,” agreed Sen. Jon Kyl , the Republican whip and McCain’s colleague in the Arizona delegation.

That view appears to have majority support, a dynamic demonstrated to McCain at a private lunch Tuesday. Afterwards, McCain was still not sure whether he would try to offer a full-sized alternative.


21 posted on 04/01/2009 8:51:05 AM PDT by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system."--George "the Abandoner" Bush)
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To: rabscuttle385; lonestar

One caveat, though. If they drafted a whole new budget; for the budget to be anything acceptable to us it most certainly would NOT include any McLame proposals.


22 posted on 04/01/2009 8:54:05 AM PDT by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system."--George "the Abandoner" Bush)
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To: rabscuttle385

I seldom, if ever, agree with McCain, but he’s right on this. I just watched Paul Ryan on TV detail a House alternative. The Senate GOP needs to do likewise.

DO THESE GUYS HAVE ANY CORE PRINCIPLES. QUIT PLAYING POLITICS AND STAND FOR SOMETHING!


23 posted on 04/01/2009 8:56:31 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: elpadre
“...take carefully chosen shots through amendments they all agree on; others want the party to do more to demonstrate how a Republican imprint would be different...”

why not both??

Don't be ridiculous that would make too much sense. Anyhow this thread is not about that. It's about bashing McCain or whining about the Republican party or both.

Whiney self-flagellating defeatist Freepers make me sick.

24 posted on 04/01/2009 9:06:31 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: rabscuttle385

“So John ... I understand you’re having all four wisdom teeth pulled tomorrow.” Bob Dole, former senator

“That’s right Bob.” Senator John McCain (R/D)

“Bob Dole says that you should take one or two of these little blue Viagra pills as soon as you sit down in the chair.” Bob Dole

“Why would I do that, Bob?” John McCain (?)

“It may give you something to hold on to ....” Bob Dole


25 posted on 04/01/2009 9:07:36 AM PDT by tumblindice (Juan McCain: go away)
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To: lonestar
I AGREE WITH McCAIN ON THIS!

It's sad that conservatives are so mad at McCain that they can't even admit when he's right. And this time he is right.

The Republicans will NEVER win back control by taking "pot shots" at Obama (which is what those that are opposing McCain want to do.)

Newt took back congress in 1994 by presenting a comprehensive plan of what the Republicans would do if they regained power (the contract with America.) That is exactly the same thing we should be doing now (and what McCain is advocating.)

26 posted on 04/01/2009 9:18:54 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: BufordP
I agree with you on that...except I can't see even McCain's being as bad as BHO's.

I'm fed up with all of them!

27 posted on 04/01/2009 9:21:24 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Melinda

Depends on what McCain is going to bend over backwards to give the Democrats, Melinda.

I’ve learned not to trust McCain as far as I could throw him.


28 posted on 04/01/2009 9:30:12 AM PDT by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Brookhaven

A broad Republican program should be advocated and not a McCain/Senate Budget versus a Republican House Budget with neither getting full voice.

McCain’s time has passed to be the Republican conservative voice. For the past thirteen years he has been the consumate backroom deal making pragmatist. He was more covetous of office than he was of principled party victory with unity.

It is time for a legislative leader to gain his caucus’s confidence in both houses and then articulate a broad agenda. Alas it is past time. To present such an agenda it would have to have already been written and vouched for by enough to insure a repeated mantra.

McCain is wanting to display leadership when he has spent fifteen years building his record as a maverick pragmatist.


29 posted on 04/01/2009 9:55:17 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain is actually right on this one (did I say that? I did!)

The Republicans are about to get steamrolled (again) by Democrats who don't want or need their support anyway. They might as well offer a real budget based on real dollars as opposed to the phony one the Democrats are concocting. But that would mean actually taking a stand on something and the timid little mice that run the GOP are too busy cowering from the Fat Cats on Capitol Hill to actually take a chance on anything these days. Pathetic.

30 posted on 04/01/2009 10:00:13 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Once again the alternative universe strikes....and Mccain is right.

Publish a full budget then amend it in if you can.

Be proactive show the country what you want and can do.......unless what you really want is to play ball with this silent coup.

31 posted on 04/01/2009 10:03:39 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain Battles Party Leaders on Budget Plan

I’m glad to read that McCain is not a party leader.


32 posted on 04/01/2009 10:29:11 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Melinda

It appears many didn’t bother to read the article before they commented.

I wonder if McCain read the McCain-Finegold bill before he endorsed it. It sure came back to bite him in the butt during the campaign.


33 posted on 04/01/2009 10:44:21 AM PDT by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: rabscuttle385

Hate to say ti, but he might be right.
If we’re going to diss the Obama budget, we ought to say what’s wrong with it and offer an alternative.
Even if we know we’re just going to be steamrollered.


34 posted on 04/01/2009 10:45:17 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Badeye
‘McCain appears to be in the minority among Republicans’

As his 37% Republican vote in the primaries last year proved conclusively.

LOL! Thanks very much!

35 posted on 04/01/2009 3:13:38 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: MaggieCarta

My pleasure. I’m not going to forget we let airhead Moderates dictate how the last election cycle would go, and I will keep pointing out they lead us to where we are today, so we don’t make THAT MISTAKE in 2010 with the congressional and Senate races, let alone in 2012.


36 posted on 04/03/2009 6:31:29 AM PDT by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: rabscuttle385
That view appears to have majority support, a dynamic demonstrated to McCain at a private lunch Tuesday. Afterwards, McCain was still not sure whether he would try to offer a full-sized alternative.

So where is the beef? The title says one thing but in the article we are told something totally different. At least whatever is going on lord McCain did manage to get some 'press'. Now quite Weary King but better than a total blackout.

37 posted on 04/03/2009 6:39:04 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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