We are all gonna DIE!
AGAIN!
Posted on 03/26/2009 10:01:30 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
The Government was urged today to make contingency plans for a freak solar flare that could 'knock out' the National Grid and create severe water and food shortages.
Labour former minister Graham Stringer said Britain should be prepared for a repeat of the solar storm of 1859, which hit Earth and paralysed much of the telegraph system. In a Commons motion, Mr Stringer said such an event could now 'knock out the National Grid, which would lead to a loss of water supply,
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Standby generator sets needed for all the water pumps in the country. Not hard to do..many water systems already have them to prevent contamination when the power and pressure go off.
“DUH”
Hmm...methinks somebody has been watching “Knowing” (movie) recently and is now getting a “tingling feeling” up his (or her) leg...
Not to worry, the physical world is an illusion. Have fun - Be Happy
I just wasted $12 on a new fishing license, too...
Fear not, the messiah will deliver us to the mountain,just follow the tracks left by the teleprompter
...a solar flare could destroy us, an asteroid could hit us, a black hole could destroy us, a gamma ray burst could destroy us, the earth’s magnetic field could shift and destroy us, we could elect Obama President along with a Democrat-controlled Congre......oh wait!
I just love doomer porn. The more Obamized we get ove the next few years, the more doomer porn will materialize.
Now that global warming has been exposed, this is the next great hoax. Bet Gore is linked to this somehow. They always have to come up with something to fill the coffers. Hmmm. Got an idea....gotta go.
scientists need straightjackets and real jobs... they have completely turned into nutjobs ... global warming, green house gases, global cooling, .... now solar storms for cash.... puhleeze!!!
I have two generators and am on a well. All I need to do is make sure I’m alive to start them up. If the whole world blows up, so be it. Nothing we can do about it..........wait a minute, Al Gore will fix it. Just send him money.
Here comes the solar flare tax!
We are all gonna DIE!
AGAIN!
OK ... so lets turn the sun off for an hour a day ...
Doomer Porn will reach its peak in the months leading up to Dec. 21, 2012.
Bbut, the mayans said.....
/sarcasm
An interesting Sun Spot Plotter web site shows sun spot activity over selected 10 year intervals. Take a look at activity over the 10 year interval centered at Jan 1 1994. Take a look at 1984, 1974, etc.
Now take a look at 2004 (covering the range Jan 1 1999 thru Jan 1 2009).
And they meet in secret.
Which is OK now.
If you listen closely, none of these doom poopheads actually say the Mayans say any of this BS, ONLY that their calendar ends on 12.21.12, but their civiliazion ended hundreds of years ago.
Tried the sunspot link but graph not loading. Any help?
At the end of the movie,only a few children are rescued by spacemen in funny looking spaceships.
I guess if you aren't brought up to believe that God meant what he said after the flood - that we were safe forevermore, you have something to worry about 24/7.
The secular humanists are driving themselves into drink and want to rest of us to join in.
Ignorance is bliss...
The fact is, this particular worry is pretty legitimate. Solar flares can seriously mess up satellites, electrical transmission, terrestrial communications, and so on.
A solar storm back in 1958 caused widespread disruption of telephone service and also caused power outages. And that was land-based stuff.
Since then, satellites have become more common; and satellites have in the past been killed by solar flares.
The consequences of a big solar flare (of the 1859 class) would be pretty unpleasant. Not fatal, but your normal life would be pretty significantly disrupted.
By on a well, do you mean oil well?? Because those generators are great, but they require lots and lots of fuel to run. They'll make great paperweights after you run out of the little gas/diesel you have on hand.
It's weird how the lows were in the middle decades. There's no uptick after 2004 though.
I wish I had an oil well.....right now anyway. No....my water comes from a well....my well. I’m getting a hand pump for it just in case. My new generator can run for eight hours (approx) on a gallon of gas. Granted, it’s a big problem if we can’t get gas. I’m looking at a small solar system to run the refrigerator and the freezer.
I just wasted $12 on a new fishing license, too...
$12 for your licence? where might that be? Out here in Kalifornia they are $41
Missouri resident. Lots of good life in these parts. Low taxes, cheap gasoline, you can step outside and shoot your gun. Deer, turkey, all kinds of fish in the lakes. Further north; pheasants and quail.
There seems to be an 11-year cycle plus other, longer-term cycles. You notice that the peaks of the 11-year-cycles themselves seem to undergo cycles of high ( ~ 200 ) and low ( ~ 100 )
Tis interesting. I wonder what the low we are experiencing is all about? I know there is some sunspot data during the “Little Ice Age”, but I am reminded of the instrumentation they had gathering data and our modern data gathering techniques.
Algore is now trying to figure out how to make a billion or two off this.
Wouldn’t better use of your money being buying the huge industrial size extra strengh SPF100000000000000000000 sun block from Costco?
I GOT IT! Sunspot offsets, please send me $20.00 for each offset you want. I even print them using soy base ink and recycled paper. :-)
This is what NASA had to say about this in 2003:
“NASA Scientist Dives into Perfect Space Storm10.24.03
A image from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) shows an erupting coronal mass ejection, with an Earth inset at the approximate scale of the image.
Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history’s most massive space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a century-and-a-half ago could happen again.
In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth’s inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth’s North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole.
“Remarkably, science has documented solar events a hundred times more intense,” said Dr. Bruce Tsurutani, a plasma physicist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. “But none of them interacted with the Earth in such a violent manner. What happened in 1859 was a combination of several events that occurred on the Sun at the same time. If they took place separately they would be somewhat notable events. But together they create the most potent disruption of Earth’s ionosphere in recorded history. What they generated was the perfect space storm.”
To begin to understand the perfect space storm you must first begin to understand the gargantuan numbers with which plasma physicists like Tsurutani work every day. At over 1.4 million kilometers (869,919 miles) wide, the Sun contains 99.86 percent of the mass of the entire solar system: well over a million Earths could fit inside its bulk. The total energy radiated by the Sun averages 383 billion trillion kilowatts, the equivalent of the energy generated by 100 billion tons of TNT exploding each and every second.
But the energy released by the Sun is not always constant. Close inspection of the Sun’s surface reveals a turbulent tangle of magnetic fields and boiling arc-shaped clouds of hot plasma dappled by dark, roving sunspots.
Every once in a while — exactly when scientists cannot predict - - an event occurs on the surface of the Sun that releases a tremendous amount of energy in the form of a solar flare or a coronal mass ejection, an explosive burst of very hot, electrified gases with a mass that can surpass that of Mount Everest.
What transpired during the dog days of summer 1859, across the 150 million-kilometer (about 93 million-mile) chasm of interplanetary space that separates the Sun and Earth, was this: on August 28, solar observers noted the development of numerous sunspots on the Sun’s surface. Sunspots are localized regions of extremely intense magnetic fields. These magnetic fields intertwine, and the resulting magnetic energy can generate a sudden, violent release of energy called a solar flare. From August 28 to September 2 several solar flares were observed. Then, on September 1, the Sun released a mammoth solar flare. For almost an entire minute the amount of sunlight the Sun produced at the region of the flare actually doubled.
“With the flare came this explosive release of a massive cloud of magnetically charged plasma called a coronal mass ejection,” said Tsurutani. “These things actually fire out from the Sun radially, so not all of them head toward the Earth. But those that do usually take three to four days to reach Earth. This one took all of 17 hours and 40 minutes,” he noted.
Not only was this coronal mass ejection an extremely fast mover, the magnetic fields contained within its charged particles were extremely intense and in direct opposition with Earth’s magnetic fields. That meant the coronal mass ejection of September 1, 1859, overwhelmed Earth’s own magnetic field, allowing charged particles to penetrate into Earth’s upper atmosphere. The endgame to such a stellar event is one heck of a light show and more.
Not only did the inhabitants of Hawaii, Havana and Rome witness their first aurora borealis, but telegraph lines throughout the United States and Europe failed under the solar blitz. Telegraph operators in New England discovered they could actually disconnect their telegraphs from their power and still operate on solar storm energy alone. Of course, back in 1859 the invention of the telegraph was only 15 years old and society’s electrical framework was truly in its infancy. A 1994 solar storm caused major malfunctions to two communications satellites, disrupting newspaper, network television and nationwide radio service throughout Canada. Other storms have affected systems ranging from cell phone service and TV signals to GPS systems and electrical power grids. In March 1989, a solar storm much less intense than the perfect space storm of 1859 caused the Hydro-Quebec (Canada) power grid to go down for over nine hours, and the resulting damages and loss in revenue were estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
“The question I get asked most often is, ‘Could a perfect space storm happen again, and when?’” added Tsurutani. “I tell people it could, and it could very well be even more intense than what transpired in 1859. As for when, we simply do not know.”
To research this perfect space storm, Tsurutani and co-writers Drs. Walter Gonzalez, of the Brazilian National Space Institute, and Gurbax Lakhina and Sobhana Alex, of the India Institute of Geomagnetism, used previously reported ground, solar and auroral observations, and recently re-discovered ground-based magnetic-field data from Colaba Observatory in India. The findings were published in a recent issue of the Journal of Geophysical Research.”
Media contact: DC Agle (818) 393-9011/JPL
“Deer, turkey, all kinds of fish in the lakes” and with this type of sun fare you won’t even have to cook them. Only problem is you have to eat it well done. :-)
“- that we were safe forevermore, \”
I think God said that he wouldn’t destroy the earth by flood again. (A line that seemed to me to have a large ominous side).
A solar event in 1859 generated enough current in telegraph wires to burn them out and start fires. What do you think will happen to the coils in the generator?
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