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Daily Aspirin Right for Men and Women?
ABC News, ChicagoTribune.com via CBN.com ^ | March 21, 2009

Posted on 03/22/2009 8:00:25 AM PDT by GonzoII

CBNNews.com - Men should start taking a daily aspirin at age 45 to lower the risk of heart attack by 20 percent, according to recent U.S. Preventive Services findings.

Doctors add that women should start a daily aspirin regimine at age 55 to protect against strokes.

However, some medical experts have concerns.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: health; heartattack; heartdisease; medical; research
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I was taking one adult aspirin a day until my sister wised me up.

1 posted on 03/22/2009 8:00:26 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Might not be a good idea if you have an ulcer. Just sayin!


2 posted on 03/22/2009 8:01:16 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: GonzoII

81 mg baby asprin....


3 posted on 03/22/2009 8:03:38 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

That’s what I’m taking now.


4 posted on 03/22/2009 8:04:50 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

You’d get the same protection drinking a cup of weak willow bark tea every day, without the ulcer problems.


5 posted on 03/22/2009 8:05:30 AM PDT by CH3CN
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I heard tell Obama is going to tax...Aspirin.

Because they are white...and they work.

6 posted on 03/22/2009 8:05:54 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: onedoug
My late Dad was getting out of whack with his coumadin, and it was to the point where the medicos wanted his blood tested a couple of times a week -- and it was almost impossible to drag him to the blood lab.

I called the cardiologist, and he told me to just quit the coumadin and dose him - twice a day - with a baby aspirin. I had the pharmacist confirm this remedy, and he concurred.

IMO, the whole prescription blood thinner program is a racket to keep a big segment of the medical community gainfully employed.

7 posted on 03/22/2009 8:07:08 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Here's hoping the Kennedy family trust is in deep....with Madoff)
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To: GonzoII
I had never taken an "aspirin a day" until February 20, 2001. That was the day after I had 3 stents inserted in my coronary arteries.

To date, the stents are still there....the clotting within them is at about 40%, and I take an aspirin a day; every day.

Coincidence?? You tell me.

8 posted on 03/22/2009 8:08:07 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Welcome, one and all, to the islamo-muslim states of obammica!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Ulcer = Bad
Stroke or Heart Attack = Badder

Do the math


9 posted on 03/22/2009 8:13:01 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: GonzoII

I wonder how many of the consultants on this project take money from the companies that make aspirin.


10 posted on 03/22/2009 8:15:34 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: GonzoII

I use enteric coated aspirin. It’s never been a problem in five years.


11 posted on 03/22/2009 8:17:36 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: PAR35
"I wonder how many of the consultants on this project take money from the companies that make aspirin."

Okay, let's just give up, it's useless./s

12 posted on 03/22/2009 8:19:02 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: ErnBatavia
IMO, the whole prescription blood thinner program is a racket to keep a big segment of the medical community gainfully employed.

It certainly looks that way. The percentage of older people on the stuff is almost beyond belief. Testing and maintenance of this people on this stuff is an industry all in itself.

My cardiologist tells me that for a lot of heart arrhythmias like mine, statistically there is no benefit to anti coagulants. I have been six years without coumadin. But there are others that would have never let me off of it.

That said, each person ought to carefully and fully educate themselves on their own condition.

13 posted on 03/22/2009 8:20:59 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ErnBatavia
Why was your dad on the coumadin? My husband has an artificial aortic heart valve and will be on coumadin for the rest of his life. He's been on it since 1993. He has to have a pro-time every two weeks. Sometimes he can go as long as 4 weeks. They have to keep the blood at such a consistency that platelets won't build up on the artificial heart valve, nor will his blood get so thin he will have a bleed through.

Not knowing why your dad was on it, I would think even on an aspirin they would need to keep a watch on his pro-time.

14 posted on 03/22/2009 8:23:47 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: GonzoII; All
I recommend anyone with a history of high cholesterol have a non-invasive test called a calcium screening test. It saved my life.

I'm 5'8", 120 pounds, haven't had red meat or caffeine since 1983 and my cholesterol stayed at around 500 because my liver only processes 1/2 of it.

I tried Lipator and Zocor but got leg cramps so I took red yeast rice which brought it down to 375.

My doctor told me to have a calcium screening...normal level is 400, mine was 1411.

I now have 2 stents, take Palvix, baby aspirin, Zetia and Crestor.

15 posted on 03/22/2009 8:27:25 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: GonzoII

Only take 81mg/day, in other words a third of the normal pill.


16 posted on 03/22/2009 8:30:05 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Logic n' Reason
I had never taken an "aspirin a day" until February 20, 2001. That was the day after I had 3 stents inserted in my coronary arteries.

To date, the stents are still there....the clotting within them is at about 40%, and I take an aspirin a day; every day.

Coincidence?? You tell me.

Is your doctor happy with your clotting level?

How often do you have a stress test?

What else do you take?

17 posted on 03/22/2009 8:30:50 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: 1066AD

Yeah, that’s what I’m doing now.


18 posted on 03/22/2009 8:40:46 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: PAR35

There is no money to be made in aspirin for the big pharmaceutical companies.

The best thing that could happen to them is if aspirin were proved ineffective they they could push more Plavix and the other anti-platelet drugs.

Just for grins, go to Walmart and see how much a 6 month supply of baby aspirin runs, remember that walmart brand works the same as big brand name.


19 posted on 03/22/2009 8:43:10 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: 1066AD

If a normal pill is 325 mg it’s one quarter.


20 posted on 03/22/2009 8:45:33 AM PDT by xp38
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Might not be a good idea if you have an ulcer. Just sayin!

If you have an ulcer why not take an antibiotic?

21 posted on 03/22/2009 8:46:46 AM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you can’t reason someone out of something that they didn’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande

I didn’t mean take the aspirin for the ulcer. I meant it might aggravate the ulcer.
By the way, antibiotics don’t cure all ulcers.


22 posted on 03/22/2009 8:52:01 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: CH3CN

Because it contains the same active ingredient as aspirin


23 posted on 03/22/2009 8:53:04 AM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: GonzoII

Just eat Kiwi Fruit, much more tasty than asprin: http://www.everything-science.com/content/view/49/98/


24 posted on 03/22/2009 8:54:45 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Slipping, falling, breaking hip in bathtub=verrabad
Drunk drivers on the road=verrabad too

Doing your math I’d quit bathing and driving!


25 posted on 03/22/2009 8:54:49 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: bimboeruption

I had a long discussion with a NIH medical expert in 1965 who was convinced that Aspirin truly was a wonder drug. He recommended an aspirin a day. I took his advice, and nearly a half-century later I am glad I did. I will die of some damned thing, but the heart works fine and the carotid artery is as smooth as a baby’s bottom.


26 posted on 03/22/2009 9:08:33 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: airedale

Yes, it does. However, as a liquid, it doesn’t sit in your stomach and burn a hole as it dissolves.

As a kid, we didn’t use aspirin for fever or headache. It was always willow bark tea. It’s the same thing, just easier on the stomach. Even if you try to dissolve an aspirin in water, it doesn’t dissolve completely.

It won’t overcome an allergy to aspirin, however.


27 posted on 03/22/2009 9:11:34 AM PDT by CH3CN
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To: Melchior
I had a long discussion with a NIH medical expert in 1965 who was convinced that Aspirin truly was a wonder drug. He recommended an aspirin a day. I took his advice, and nearly a half-century later I am glad I did. I will die of some damned thing, but the heart works fine and the carotid artery is as smooth as a baby’s bottom.

LUCKY YOU!

I'm thin, never smoked, no red meat or caffeine for 25 years, plenty of exercise and my heart's a mess because my liver doesn't work right.

Genes play a big part in how long a person lives.

And don't forget the Almighty. When He says it's time -- it's time -- no matter what.

28 posted on 03/22/2009 9:16:43 AM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: CH3CN

Quote: The father of modern medicine was Hippocrates, who lived sometime between 460 B.C and 377 B.C. Hippocrates was left historical records of pain relief treatments, including the use of powder made from the bark and leaves of the willow tree to help heal headaches, pains and fevers.

By 1829, scientists discovered that it was the compound called salicin in willow plants which gave you the pain relief. Unquote

Aspirin or acetylsalicylic acid, is a derivative of salicylic acid ....

Source:
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blaspirin.htm


29 posted on 03/22/2009 9:36:43 AM PDT by NutmegDevil
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To: GonzoII

So how did the health effects of a regular intake of aspirin get discovered...by a carefully controlled test? Forget it...no money to be made.

It wound up that people with arthritis virtually never had heart problems. The reason, megadoses of aspirin (it was the only pain relief option for decades...at least).

As to dosage, I take the full dose and will deal with the effects later, if any. I have no confidence in our medical community to figure out the right dose when couldn’t even figure out that a bloodthinner might just help people that tend to get heart attacks from clots, so I’ll get a bit closer to the arthritis dudes in dosage.


30 posted on 03/22/2009 9:48:39 AM PDT by BobL (Drop a comment: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180357/posts)
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To: CH3CN

You’re right it won’t dissolve. That’s due to the cornstarch used as a filler not the acetylsalicylic acid. Cornstarch and water make a non-newtonian liquid. Look up cornstarch and water on line.

I’ve never had a problem with aspirin. I take an extra strength aspirin every day per doctors orders due to the stents in my heart. They’ve taken me off Plavix and some other drugs. My wife on the other hand has arthritis and she avoids it because it does cause stomach problems because of the dose she’d have to take (it would also cause bleeding problems).

The only time I don’t take my aspirin is for 48 hours prior to giving platelets at the Red Cross. You couldn’t take the willow bark tea for 48 hours prior to giving blood or platelets because of the blood thinning properties of the main ingredient in both.


31 posted on 03/22/2009 10:59:43 AM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: bimboeruption
Is your doctor happy with your clotting level? Well, after nine years, to be up to about 40% is not that bad; I use my younger brother as a "guide" (he's a thorasic surgeon and a cardiologist) to how much I should handle. I don't guess it's last forever and I'll probably have to go back in for more work some day.

How often do you have a stress test? I've not had a stress test since 2004. That one showed no blockage at all.

What else do you take? Metoporol, Zocor, and Altace...plus some OTC stuff (Selenium, etc.) I stopped taking Co-Q10 as the doc said there was no scientific proof it worked....and it is very expensive.

32 posted on 03/23/2009 8:22:33 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Welcome, one and all, to the islamo-muslim states of obammica!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Nope. I was stating that the aspirin a day has more heart benefit, than the gastro dangers. But I kept it too minimal.


33 posted on 03/23/2009 4:11:35 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

A perforated ulcer can sneak up on a body just as well as a heart attack. I won’t quibble with you over which is more dangerous, but you can’t make a blanket recommendation that everyone take aspirin to prevent heart attack.
Or would you like it added to the water supply? Of course not. Aspirin is a drug, not a vitamin.
And even vitamins can be administered to the wrong people.

“Preventive medicine.” Words to think twice about.


34 posted on 03/24/2009 6:53:13 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I must have missed that blanket recommendation I made. so I rescend it. my post was hasty. what my intent was that with all things equal aspirin benefits to the heart are greater than the threat to the stomach in HEALTHY PEOPLE.

If you’re wanting to debate this further, find someone that gives a rip.


35 posted on 03/24/2009 2:57:08 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
If you’re wanting to debate this further, find someone that gives a rip.

Quit replying. I'd be delighted not to see your posts. This is a discussion forum and yet some people are awfully intolerant of different opinions.

36 posted on 03/24/2009 3:01:06 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
I stopped taking Co-Q10 as the doc said there was no scientific proof it worked....and it is very expensive.

He hadn't done a good literature search. There is at least one well-executed study with encouraging results. It IS expensive but it definitely works for me -- reduces pain by at least 50%. Have gone on and off multiple times to verify longitudinally.

37 posted on 03/24/2009 3:03:50 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I always reply to any post no matter how irrelevant it is.


38 posted on 03/24/2009 3:06:08 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I always reply to any post

And I generally do not, but offer my opponent the last word, the policy being "noblesse oblige." ;)

39 posted on 03/24/2009 3:35:48 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

We have more in common than differences. Catch you later and call me if you decide to TP your neighbor’s yard.


40 posted on 03/24/2009 3:40:19 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: steve86
There is at least one well-executed study with encouraging results. It IS expensive but it definitely works for me -- reduces pain by at least 50%. Have gone on and off multiple times to verify longitudinally.

Well....if it works, it works!

For me...I don't have the pain...yet. So I guess I'll stick with my regimen for now.

41 posted on 03/24/2009 5:13:07 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Welcome, one and all, to the islamo-muslim states of obammica!)
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To: Logic n' Reason

If you ever do need to take CoQ10, don’t try to scrimp on the dosage. Less than 100 mg/day doesn’t do much for me. I think some people buy the cheapest 50 mg bottle they find, take one a day, and declare it doesn’t work. I take 200 mg now and generally buy it at Costco.


42 posted on 03/24/2009 5:31:34 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
Thanks Steve86!

We don't have a Costco nearby, but I'll check Sams Club to see what they have.

As I think I mentioned, my younger brother is a thorasic surgeon and cardiologist. I'm going to run this by him and see what he thinks...

I'll let you know.

But...when it comes right down to it....if it feels good, do it!

BTW....are you a CAD sufferer or more along the lines of the heart muscle itself?

43 posted on 03/25/2009 5:10:44 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Welcome, one and all, to the islamo-muslim states of obammica!)
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