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Obama sending ATF agents
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | March 18, 2009 | Eileen Sullivan & Devlin Barrett

Posted on 03/18/2009 7:36:29 AM PDT by HiJinx

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration plans to send reinforcements to the Southwest border to help contain the rampant violence of the Mexican drug cartel wars.

Thirty-seven agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are being deployed to the region. An official familiar with the plan said the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency is considering reassignment of at least 90 officers to the border.

The official requested anonymity because the plan has not yet been announced.

(Excerpt) Read more at svherald.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; asylum; banglist; bho44; mexico; refugees; warnextdoor
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Here we go...two week media blitz creates a crisis, and the Administration implements a pre-planned operation.

Keep yer powder dry, y'all...

1 posted on 03/18/2009 7:36:29 AM PDT by HiJinx
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To: HiJinx

How about building a fence?


2 posted on 03/18/2009 7:38:06 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: HiJinx

They should just ask Sheriff Arpaio. He’ll get er done.


3 posted on 03/18/2009 7:39:36 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: HiJinx

Oh this is going to get interesting...

Maybe they can find a compound and do a “dynamic” entry.


4 posted on 03/18/2009 7:39:45 AM PDT by Never on my watch (What part of Socialism works and what part of Capitalism doesn't?)
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To: HiJinx

Good lord our pres__ent is an idiot.


5 posted on 03/18/2009 7:40:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: NoGrayZone
They should just ask Sheriff Arpaio. He’ll get er done.

Stop dreaming. Nobody will get 'er done.

6 posted on 03/18/2009 7:40:48 AM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: HiJinx
Thirty-seven agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are being deployed to the region.

Oy veh, on so many levels...
7 posted on 03/18/2009 7:41:19 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: NoGrayZone

Sheriff Arpaio isn’t an anti-illegal immigration zealot.

He just enforces the law. And it just so happens that he’s in an area where there are a lot of people breaking the law who also happen to be here illegally.

What we see in other localities is that they are more likely to let the illegals go to avoid the accusations that Arpaio is being subjected to.


8 posted on 03/18/2009 7:41:47 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Riodacat
"Stop dreaming. Nobody will get 'er done."

With your attitude, no, nobody will get er done. Why don't you just sit in the corner while the big boys take care of things.

9 posted on 03/18/2009 7:43:17 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: HiJinx

Who is kidding who? Obama and his storm troopers will not give up one ILLGAL MEXICAN VOTE. More show, more living lies, more deception, more liberalism.....


10 posted on 03/18/2009 7:43:40 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: HiJinx

I was thinking that maybe the boy king needed some “powder” for himself and was sending federal agents to get a big supply to sustain him and his friends who party with him.


11 posted on 03/18/2009 7:44:19 AM PDT by madinmadtown (It is good to be right.)
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To: HiJinx

Wait a minute, the ATF?

WTF

Are they setting things up for failure there? Why send the ATF?


12 posted on 03/18/2009 7:44:58 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: MrB
"Sheriff Arpaio isn’t an anti-illegal immigration zealot."

Correct.

"He just enforces the law. And it just so happens that he’s in an area where there are a lot of people breaking the law who also happen to be here illegally."

You "answered" your own argument in one breath.

13 posted on 03/18/2009 7:46:24 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: NoGrayZone
Why don't you just sit in the corner while the big boys take care of things.

Who are the "big boys" and when are they going to "take care of things"? Curious minds want to know.

14 posted on 03/18/2009 7:46:44 AM PDT by houeto (I see Obama voters...and it's changed my tipping habits.)
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To: Danae

Ya well they did such a good job a Waco.


15 posted on 03/18/2009 7:47:01 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Riodacat
Give me free rein and I will get r done.

1. Shoot across the border at us and you will get a swift and painful return from an Apache or a Predator.

2. Get caught within 1 mile of the border with more than a kilo of drugs you will be executed on the spot.

3. Get caught leading more than five illegal invaders into the country and you will be executed on the spot.

4. ALL "detained "illegal invaders will be return to Mexico via the most Southern port on the appropriate coast.

5. All "detained" invaders get a mark to show they have been here and returned. Get caught a second time and you are executed on the spot.

16 posted on 03/18/2009 7:47:16 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Danae

Why send the ATF?

Confiscate cases of Corona from underage drinkers?


17 posted on 03/18/2009 7:47:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: HiJinx
"Thirty-seven agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are being deployed to the region."

Great now those Mexicans smuggling the illegal cuban cigars will be put on alert... [\sarcasm]
18 posted on 03/18/2009 7:47:29 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: HiJinx; All
You folks are missing the whole point.

The BATFE isn't going to the border to 'help' with the illegals situation.

They are going down there to identify which gun shops on THIS side of the border are having a lot of straw sales and put them out of business.

19 posted on 03/18/2009 7:48:19 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: Danae

Is Janet Reno a consultant for this project?


20 posted on 03/18/2009 7:48:43 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: HiJinx
,,is considering reassignment of at least 90 officers to the border.

Is that all?

During the siege of the Randy Weaver "compound" it was reported that as high as 800 meals per day were delivered to the jack booted thugs surrounding his house.

Agents and military personnel at the Branch Devonian "compound" ?

21 posted on 03/18/2009 7:48:57 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: HiJinx
This will be a 2-week LSM blitz orchestrated to divert attention from Congress, the Dems, the bank bailouts, Fwrank, Dodd, Gorelick, Ranies, Johnson, etc., etc., while Polesuki and her ilk push through even more 'unread' legislation to include more spending, but not even talked about....i.e. Porkulus 2 ReDux.

Sending 37 ATF agents is a sham, though it will help some. However, still more physical barriers are needed especially in Arizona on the land of the Tohono O'odham nation. There are several other hot spot routes for illegal entry along the AZ / Mex border that are wide open still.

So, let the sheeple drink the 0 kool aid and the goobermint will continue lying at all costs as a select few in DC and AZ take drug cartel money to look the other way. See if FOX news or any other media can get a close up sat photo, and you'll see exactly what I mean.

22 posted on 03/18/2009 7:49:03 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: SolidWood
How about building a fence?

I saw the fence on TV. Especially all the patches to the fence where they were opened up by illegals. They are defenseless. A waste of money, as I see it.

23 posted on 03/18/2009 7:49:16 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: HiJinx

The ATF? That can only mean that the idea is to harass FFL holders and try to put them out of business for minor things like entering “St.” for Street.


24 posted on 03/18/2009 7:49:17 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: HiJinx

The problem is that they have orders to shoot Americans...


25 posted on 03/18/2009 7:49:27 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: 70th Division

Thats what I meant. Ruby Ridge too right?

Seriously it looks like they are setting up failure with the signals that is sending.


26 posted on 03/18/2009 7:49:28 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: varina davis

Who needs Reno when you have Obama?


27 posted on 03/18/2009 7:49:52 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: HiJinx

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

Bootleg whiskey?
Bootleg smokes?
American citizens with registered fire arms?


28 posted on 03/18/2009 7:50:15 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Danae

YUP...smoke and mirrors...lots of wide open ‘undocumented’ routes for illegal entry still exist in AZ.....one of the catels’ favorite spots.


29 posted on 03/18/2009 7:50:30 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: houeto
"Who are the "big boys" and when are they going to "take care of things"? Curious minds want to know."

The big boys are people like Sheriff Arpaio and the rancher Roger Barnett. These are 2 fellows who have stood and upheld the laws of the land. These are the type of "big boys" I refer to. We just need a few more like them.

30 posted on 03/18/2009 7:50:37 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: silverleaf

TO make the case that we need the Assault Weapons Ban back of course.


31 posted on 03/18/2009 7:51:00 AM PDT by SgtSki
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah, the guy helping me with my last yellow sheet was VERY insistent that I not use “st” for street, or the two letter abbreviation for the state.

I thought HE was the anal one. I understand now. The bureaucrats use these things to put gun sellers out of business.


32 posted on 03/18/2009 7:51:37 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: HiJinx

Someone start the countdown until innocent Americans get gunned down. 3....2....1


33 posted on 03/18/2009 7:51:40 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: silverleaf

Maybe to arrest those who do not have a lime in the bottle.


34 posted on 03/18/2009 7:52:18 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: houeto

I think the point is that the “woe is me” attitude does nothing but discourages good people from standing tall and demanding that something be done.


35 posted on 03/18/2009 7:52:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I love your ways, but they may be a bit too much for some of the wussie minded we have here.

Hence the problem.

36 posted on 03/18/2009 7:52:26 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: NoGrayZone

That might be who they are after.


37 posted on 03/18/2009 7:52:35 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: SolidWood

37??? oh boy..thats alot of help


38 posted on 03/18/2009 7:53:03 AM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: Pistolshot

Oooooooooooooooo...... you might well have a very good point there.

The ramifications of that thought are really disturbing.


39 posted on 03/18/2009 7:53:38 AM PDT by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: Glenn
An electrified fence would be an improvement.
40 posted on 03/18/2009 7:53:53 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You obviously expect one hell of a budget for ammo!


41 posted on 03/18/2009 7:54:30 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: HiJinx
Look closely at their orders ... they are going down there to stand and face North to stop guns from getting to Mexico, NOT to keep illegals from coming into the US of A.
42 posted on 03/18/2009 7:54:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
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To: Glenn

I’m talking about a real fence/wall like the Israeli one. Concrete, barbed wire, watch towers, guards.


43 posted on 03/18/2009 7:55:03 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: cripplecreek
"I think the point is that the “woe is me” attitude does nothing but discourages good people from standing tall and demanding that something be done."

Thank you for getting my point across. I would have been here for days trying to do what you did in a sec!

44 posted on 03/18/2009 7:57:32 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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To: HiJinx

Ok boys and girls, lets get out our pencils. The US Mexican border is 2000 miles long. If the Pres_ent sends 37 ATF to the border, how many miles would each man have to patrol 24/7?


45 posted on 03/18/2009 7:57:53 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Danae

Maybe the Zeta’s are hiding behind women and children. F- Troop to the rescue!


46 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:10 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Te odeo, interfice te cochleare)
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To: SolidWood

All vets of the Elian Gonzalez, Ruby Ridge, and Waco happenings in the past.


47 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:12 AM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter (Democrat socialist liberal scumbags.....how did we let this happen!)
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To: 70th Division

Maybe the ATF is there to set up another Waco situation.

Let’s see, who can be the perpetrators in a possible gun-running scheme from the US into Mexico? Not that that is a significant source of the weaponry being used in places like Juarez, or anywhere in Mexico, for that matter. Daily shipments of full automatic and military grade ordnance are received from China, Venezuela and North Korea.

But say that there is a religious colony in the near location to El Paso, and they also happen to have a small stockpile of (legally purchased) sidearms. They will be surrounded and stormed as being the “source” of the illegal weaponry being used in Mexico. And how were they getting them into Mexico? Why, a tunnel under the Rio Grande, of course, a highly engineered avenue of exchange of illegal drugs for illegal weapons.

Doesn’t matter that the religious colony never so much as exchanged business cards with the Mexican drug cartels, the fact remains that they COULD have, and the attack on the compound will be launched.

Waco all over again.

No persecution in this country. Nosiree, Bob


48 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:22 AM PDT by alloysteel (Obama was lying, your rights are dying)
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To: silverleaf; Danae

Their job will be to harass and shut down legal FFL gun shops in the area.


49 posted on 03/18/2009 7:59:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: listenhillary
I have no doubt about that. Our “side” wants him as well. Once we allow “them” to take him, I don't think there's any going back.

The line has been drawn and it's time for people to decide which side they stand.

50 posted on 03/18/2009 8:00:33 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Who Is John Galt?)
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