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To: Chief Engineer; mojitojoe

Chief, and MJJ:

Of all the theories, I think yours are the closest to the truth(see MJJ’s post at # 150).

Kenyan birth doesn’t ring true to me, but Ann being in Washington State, and possibly having little Barry in Canada could be plausible.

Grandma Toot could have had a contact in the Hawaii State gov’t that put the info on the birth list given to the papers as a favor. It was bad enough that her daughter was married to a black man in 1961, a foreigner as well, but maybe having the kid born in a foreign country was too much for Toot to bear, because of other complications she may have foreseen.

I also believe there is something on that birth certificate about his real father. It is hard for me to understand how Barry could write a book about a man he did not know and title it “Dreams of My Father”. If his father was Frank Marshall Davis, that would explain why Grandpa had Barry spend his teenage years with Davis. The “dreams” could be of his real father, Davis, who Barry admits was his mentor.

Further, there are nude pictures of Ann Dunham that have been unearthed and believed to have been taken by Frank Marshall Davis, who was well known to Ann as Davis was a friend of Toot and Toot’s husband, Ann’s father. Davis even wrote a sexually charged book under a non de plume which included his bedding a 13 year old white girl (Hmmmmmmmmmmm—who could THAT be?).

Chief, there was talk a few months ago about an immigration paper that might exist in Bellingham, Washington that might identify Ann Durham crossing into the US, possibly with a newborn.

Did anything ever come of that?


367 posted on 03/17/2009 7:16:01 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: exit82

Number one with regard to Frank Marshall Davis, the incident he wrote about with the 13 year old girl named Anne was an incident which occurred with his FIRST wife. When I first read about the incident I began to search and it was with a great deal of difficulty that I finally found out that Frank Marshall Davis was married to one Thelma Boyd while he was living and working with her in Atlanta GA.(In the years 1931 to 1935) She was a woman of color as was the girl they seduced. The girl in question was from Jamaica and was living with her aunt in the Atlanta area.
Further, I myself travelled between B.C. and the U.S. in the 1960’s and it was unbelievable how simple it was back then as other Freepers have also mentioned. At that time if you were even stopped the border guards would ask to see the driver’s license of the person driving the vehicle but would pay absolutely NO attention to passengers. There would be no record of Ann travelling between B.C. and WA state if she were a passenger in a vehicle as security wasn’t like it is now. Her friends did say she was staying with a friend of her mother when she first arrived in WA state.
When Ann married Lolo and Lolo adopted Jr, she would have placed a notice in the papers as a way of informing Obama Sr of her intent. When there was no response from Sr she could have honestly appeared in court and stated she didn’t know where Sr was and the adoption could proceed. Remember Sr returned to Kenya in 1964. The original birth certificate would have been sealed and the only way to access it, even for Jr, would be to go to court. Now when Ann returned to HI in 1971 before Obama Sr arrived she could have done the same thing once again to reverse the adoption(Ann and Lolo never lived together again as husband and wife after that time period) and have Sr once again appear as the legal father of Jr, resulting in yet another birth certificate being sealed. Having two sealed birth certificates would really cause a problem for Jr while running for office(the dates wouldn’t tally with his “official story”), so it would be much easier to have one printed with what might have been information that appeared on the original instead of having to go to court and having all those records and documents unsealed. Of course it also helps when it gets out that he often loses papers as was mentioned in a story recently printed about his being in the White House now. This could provide cover for the often raised question about his mentioning his birth certificate in his book and its whereabouts now.


375 posted on 03/17/2009 7:37:58 PM PDT by Chief Engineer
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To: exit82; LucyT

Since Marshall’s perv book was written IIRC in the 30’s, the girl could not have been Ann. Second, LucyT might know about those papers; I never heard any conclusion about them myself.


382 posted on 03/17/2009 9:08:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gama Tamasi Ma Jyotir Gama)
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