Posted on 03/17/2009 11:50:28 AM PDT by AndrewWalden
A fairly impressive internet industry has sprung up claiming that Obama was born in either Kenya or Indonesia. This is nonsense which distracts from the broadly unexplored story of Obama’s upbringing. This kind of nonsense has emerged because the McCain campaign chose not to raise the many questions about Barack Obama’s numerous hard-left alliances. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu.
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There can by no rumors without facts. Let the theories continue until obama comes clean.
See you next time a obam BC thread is started. But until you have facts reported by the court they have examined obama's bc and other documents and traced them in records accordingly, I will not be replying so you can get your propaganda talking points out.
ML/NJ
Gemsbok, I think we’re done talking.
Right. Like that rumor that Obama had to have used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981 because of the fact that there was a travel ban there. Only there wasn't any travel ban and State Dept documents prove that getting into Pakistan was no more difficult than picking up a 30 day tourist visa when you arrived at the airport there.
That's been repeated often, but proven nowhere. Do you actually expect the courts to rule by hearsay on the internet -- with no proof presented by these attornies in their briefs?
No, unfortunately for you, none of courts for obama's lawsuits have ruled that obama even has a legitimate U.S birth certificate.
And none have ruled that he doesn't -- simply because none of these lawsuits have succeeded, or made it to the point of discovery -- a hearing where evidence is presented -- so to say that "none of the courts...have ruled that obama has legitimate birth certificate" is a bit deceptive, isn't it?
If you are willing to take whatever obama hands you in the way of truth then maybe America is not for you. North Korea sounds more to your liking.
No, actually, I wish these attornies had come up with some proof -- which they haven't -- and I've never taken anything "obama hands me" as proof of anything. I doubt I'd adapt very well to N. Korea, but thanks for the gratuitous insult.
Obama must show the vault birth certificate and not the abbreviated version with few details.
I know it's tough to accept, but according to Hawaii law, the COLB is sufficient to prove date and place of birth. The COLB is accepted as date and place of birth for U.S. passports, and every other government proof-of-birth requirement. Most states now issue the same sort of computer-generated COLB, which are also accepted as legitimate proof of birth.
I'm not speculating, by the way, just commenting on what has happened/not happened to this point with these lawsuits.
Illigitimate birth? Muslim religion? No detectible testicles?
Because his father is Malcolm Little?
Yeah, it is hard to accept when you and a couple of others show up for the obama bc threads and then post talking points or obama thugs lies as truth. It is hard to accept that any American would obfuscate the truth coming out about a commander in chief because it sets a precedent for the future for anyone to do the same. It could be Kim Jung Il's cousin next time and you would be it's all good. At the very least you should want truth in return for your blind faith and support in obama. It is your right to know who your president is but you come in here and you don't care about anything but denying everyone else who is seeking the truth.
The COLB is accepted as date and place of birth for U.S. passports, and every other government proof-of-birth requirement. Most states now issue the same sort of computer-generated COLB, which are also accepted as legitimate proof of birth.
What a bunch of malarky. You could not get a drivers license with what obama is showing in California. In California they do give copies but they are on paper not used in a copy machine. They are also stamped heavily. Without all of that you cannot get to step one for a passport, drivers license or government position. And you do not get to keep it after you show the BC. They keep it. I have gone through this enough times with my children so don't try to pass off your lies to me.
obama is not showing a COLB. But you thought you could pass that one off too I guess. obama is showing Certification of live birth. What obama shows is not acceptable for any federal position. It is the abbreviated version of the original. The original BC could be a actual Certificate of Live Birth, Late Birth Certificate, or Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. We need to know which one and the read information on original document and any amendments made, especially to names or place of birth.
Below is what obama would need to pass security at pearl harbor ship yard. Not one reads CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH.
http://www.wbdg.org/ccb/DOD/UFGS/UFGS%2001%2014%2000.pdf
a. Birth registration card
b. Certificate of live birth, birth certificate
c. Certificate of Naturalization
d. Certificate of registration
e. DD-214 (Must Cite Birthplace)
f. DD Form 4 (Contract for Enlistment and Must Cite Birthplace)
g. DD 1966 (Application for Enlistment)
h. Military discharge papers (must cite birthplace)
i. Delayed birth certificate
j. Hawaii certificate of foreign birth
k. Hospital birth certificate
l. Marriage license certificate
m. Merchant marine certificate
n. Military officer ID card
o. Notification of birth registration
p. State of Hawaii ID card
q. USA passport
r. Verbal inquiry with State of Hawaii Vital Statistics Office
I'm not speculating, by the way, just commenting on what has happened/not happened to this point with these lawsuits.
Since nothing has been investigated and a ruling based on facts what is there to comment on? The fact that obama has been able to avoid showing a simple document we all have to show certain times in our life?
We want the truth. We want facts. You say you have the truth based on what oBama allows you to know. Communist countries are run based on what they want you to know. You claim what you post here are facts.
Not good enough for me. If you accept that then bully for you. You have commented on the BC showing he was born in hawaii, you know it has not been shown in court, until then it is a forgery. Nothing on it, Hawaii birthplace or even his name is valid.
See you and bubba next time one of these threads is posted on obama's lack of BC and eligibility. But like I said, don't expect me to comment on anything posted unless it is obama finally coughing up a genuine COLB. Not a certification.
Obama would not pass a background investigation for a security clearance. Amazing.
Below is what obama would need to pass security at pearl harbor ship yard. Not one reads CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH.
http://www.wbdg.org/ccb/DOD/UFGS/UFGS%2001%2014%2000.pdf
a. Birth registration card
b. Certificate of live birth, birth certificate
........
UH HUH
CertifiCATE
CertifiCATION
Sorry Barbara Nelson came out after that story was published and said she was misquoted and the events as written didn’t occur. I don’t know if you noticed it but she also stuck with the “official story” giving Obama Sr a degree which he never held (he had an M.A. never a Phd) and she mentions that when he gave the Kenyan presentation to the grade 5 class it was the first time he had seen his son since his son was two. We know Ann and Jr were in WA state when Obama Sr left HI June 22, 1962, Jr wasn’t even a year old at the time but the “official story line” says his father left when he was two.
In 1961 the birth of a "black" baby to a white mother named Stanley would be sufficiently unusual to stick in most people's minds. They might have brought that memory out to "look at it", until something, say the canidacy of BHO. a "black" man with a white mother born in Hawaii, would trigger the memory.
From my own experience, I doubt it. The doc would have to be aware that the baby was half black as opposed to some other type of mixed race child, which he wouldn't necessarily realize. (Mixed race children are not rare in Hawaii.) As I've said, I could have delivered someone famous, and I wouldn't know it. I don't recall details of the appearance of women that I delivered, and usually didn't see details on the birth certificate that would have told me the race or the name.
You're asking a lot of hard working nurses and doctors - without an ongoing relationship with mother and/or child, it's extremely unlikely. I think there are stronger arguments. This one will get dismissed by medical people know from experience.
bookmark.
Perhaps Jay Leno will ask him about it ... hey Jay, do you read FR? ... ask Barry about his early days.
Since when is debating a subject an attempt to deny people the truth?
As far as "seeking the truth," what I see is exactly the opposite on the "certifigate" threads, which lately are being repeated over and over again. They usually start with a whole lot of screaming such as "show the certificate!" Then some brave soul will make a comment not in agreement with the "gaters," and if they persist, they immediately get labeled an Obamabot, a thug, and just about every other insult short of the bannable.
How that behavior contributes to "seeking the truth" is beyond me, as it is, I'd assume, for most reasonable people.
Not really. He has presented a jpg image of a COLB. I think you would agree that a COLB and a jpg image are not the same thing.
ML/NJ
Chief, thanks for the information in your reply.
I appreciate the amount of research you have done in this matter.
lj—thnaks for the additional information and correction. Davis’s book was published in 1968 and I thought it was more contemporary—but you are correct, the story is from the 1930s.
See post 375 from Chief Engineer to me for additional information on the Washington/Canada crossings.
That has got to be one of the most naive statements I have ever heard. If I had a penny for every internet rumor that's been made up out of whole cloth...
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