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Rabbi Asks Pope Benedict Not to Wear Cross at Western Wall
FOx News ^ | March 17th, 2009

Posted on 03/17/2009 9:26:17 AM PDT by TaraP

Edited on 03/17/2009 9:47:14 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A rabbi in Jerusalem has one request for Pope Benedict XVI when he visits the Western Wall in May: Leave the cross at home.

Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who will meet the pontiff when he visits the Holy Land on May 12, said that a cross is not proper when visiting the Jewish religious site, The Jerusalem Post reported.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cross; holyland; israel; papalvisit; rabbi; westernwall
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1 posted on 03/17/2009 9:26:18 AM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

That’s kinda stupid. And I’m Jewish.


2 posted on 03/17/2009 9:27:47 AM PDT by Borges
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To: TaraP

It’s amazing how we invent ways to seperate ourselves.


3 posted on 03/17/2009 9:27:54 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.worldviewradio.com/play.php?EpisodeID=10958)
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To: TaraP

Yo Pope,
Wear a Cross and a Star of David and pray for world peace.


4 posted on 03/17/2009 9:27:55 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: TaraP

They put Jesus on the cross outside the gate of Jerusalem but the Pope is not supposed to wear one. Right.


5 posted on 03/17/2009 9:28:17 AM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: Borges

Don’t feel bad about it, there are plenty of stupids is ALL religions.


6 posted on 03/17/2009 9:28:51 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: TaraP

Wear your cross, Holy Father, it is a part of your papal dress, you never take it off. Just bring the pictures of JPII wearing his, and don’t let them intimidate you because of your heritage. That is pretty much what it is about.


7 posted on 03/17/2009 9:28:56 AM PDT by wombtotomb (I would rather die on my feet as a free man, than live on my knees as a slave)
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To: Borges

Yes it is...

The Cross represents forgiveness, love and salvation..

Soemthing the world needs more than ever.....


8 posted on 03/17/2009 9:29:32 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP
Rabbi Asks Pope Benedict Not to Wear Cross at Western Wall
ROFL!!!
9 posted on 03/17/2009 9:31:23 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: TaraP
Pope should comply with one caveat.

Rabbi must join him for a ham sandwich.

10 posted on 03/17/2009 9:31:52 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: TaraP

Pope’s response:

Duly noted, duly disregarded.


11 posted on 03/17/2009 9:35:28 AM PDT by Never on my watch (What part of Socialism works and what part of Capitalism doesn't?)
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To: TaraP

A piece of gold on a chain is nothing compared to the Pope’s beliefs. I suppose he’ll be asked to leave those at home as well? Talk about a slap in the face.


12 posted on 03/17/2009 9:35:32 AM PDT by bgill
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To: TaraP
"My position is that it is not fitting to enter the Western Wall area with religious symbols, including a cross," Rabinovitch told The Jerusalem Post.

Reb, with all due respect, kish mir in tuchis.

You should be happy. He's already wearing a yarmulke.

13 posted on 03/17/2009 9:37:41 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: TaraP

I wonder if he was offended by the shenanigans of that swarthy leprechaun O’bama last year.


14 posted on 03/17/2009 9:37:41 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: Patrick1

Hey, it was us pagans who nailed up Jesus. Don’t give the Jews the credit.


15 posted on 03/17/2009 9:37:50 AM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: TaraP
I'm not familar with Rabbi Rabinovitch. Is he a serious Jewish religious leader, or is he the Jewish version of "Reverend" Fred Phelps?
16 posted on 03/17/2009 9:39:36 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: Borges

Sounds like he has been studying the Saudis. Except they don’t allow stars of David either.

What a stupid comment this Rabbi made.


17 posted on 03/17/2009 9:43:03 AM PDT by ZULU (Obamanation of Desolation is President. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: TaraP

Pope to Rabbi: “Nuts”


18 posted on 03/17/2009 9:45:37 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Borges

I am Jewish too. And it’s VERY stupid.


19 posted on 03/17/2009 9:46:19 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: TaraP

Tell the Rabbi go get stuffed.


20 posted on 03/17/2009 9:52:46 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: TaraP
“a cross is not proper when visiting the Jewish religious site”

The man that was crucified on that cross was Jewish. How much more appropriate can you get?

21 posted on 03/17/2009 9:54:54 AM PDT by sadamico (Can a state AG file a suit against the federal government for violating the US Constitution?)
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To: TaraP

Pope to Rabbi: “You cannot escort me to the Wall unless you remove your big crooked nose.”


22 posted on 03/17/2009 9:55:17 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood
From your about page:I started on Free Republic back in the 90’s but was thrown out for some reason or other. For that... I am truly sorry.

Keep this crap up and your ass will be thrown off again and rightly so.


23 posted on 03/17/2009 10:03:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

The Pope and the cross are one and the same? No?


24 posted on 03/17/2009 10:06:01 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Borges

Just anothr rabbi all caught up in worshipping another rock ~ (Making clear exactly why Moses told everybody to just steer clear of the rocks).


25 posted on 03/17/2009 10:06:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wombtotomb

That’s right — the Pope should NEVER take it off. Satan hates the Cross/ best for the good Rabbi not to make a big stink about it, esp since there are Muslims crawling all over the Dome of the Rock. If they can do no harm, the Cross of Christ should be ok.


26 posted on 03/17/2009 10:07:23 AM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: bboop

What the Rabbi does not understand IMHO is that the *CROSS* represents the *HEART* of a Christian...It is so hurtful and insulting to most Christians because it attacks the core of there faith *THE HOLY SPIRIT* I respect the faith of Judaism where the heart of our christian faith evolved
however, the Rabbi will cause more hurt in the world and to Israel if he insults the Christian World..Which is composed of Jews and Gentiles alike who have a relationship with the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


27 posted on 03/17/2009 10:15:54 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

I can’t imagine anyone making a problem if an Orthodox Jew entered a Catholic Church in full regalia. This is more of a secular and political attitude than a religious one, IMHO.


28 posted on 03/17/2009 10:21:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: KarlInOhio

Rabbi Rabinovitch does not know Jesus Christ, so he does not understand the *Cross*

You cannot know or understand anyone else unless you have attempted to get to know them, invite them into your home sit down and have a cup of Coffee...

Jesus Christ stands at the door of every single person in the world, he does not care what religion you follow, your race, political affiliation, creed, gender...If you invite him into your heart then he will let you get to know him through the Holy Spirit....

The Rabbi does not know Jesus Christ.....


29 posted on 03/17/2009 10:29:28 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP
I guess it's okay for hypocrites to desecrate the Jewish holy site.


30 posted on 03/17/2009 10:46:24 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: TaraP

They made Jesus wear one.


31 posted on 03/17/2009 10:46:56 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: TaraP

Kind of what they told Peter to do as well. He didn’t listen either.


32 posted on 03/17/2009 10:47:33 AM PDT by Antoninus (So now "change" is defined as "more of the same, but worse"?)
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To: Antoninus

RABBI NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THE CROSS>>>>>>

With the CROSS God takes us out of the ordinary and makes us extraordinary people. Instead of being the flesh that will rot with time, He puts the stamp of infinity upon our foreheads and hands us a ticket to glory.

We no longer have to worry about the limit of time for He makes us timeless.

By that shed blood at a place called Calvary, Jesus made us part of His family. Through it He lifts us out of the bondage of hell and claims us for His own.

He takes us from the clutches of Satan, cleans our souls with tender mercy and careful love, and calls us His brothers and sisters.

If I say I love Jesus and look forward to sharing His kingdom, I must carry His cross.

If I need His help in my life situations I must want to help others in the same way. If I need to share in all His goodness I must share in His suffering. If I know that He died on a cross for me, I must be willing to sacrifice myself for Him if He asks this of me.


33 posted on 03/17/2009 10:52:32 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Mashood

Mashood,
That is not kind or Christian like...Maybe you say that out of frustration but let us all remember what Jesus told us..

First..
The Flesh is weak- Which makes us want to lash out, when we are hurt or offended

But the *Spirit* is mighty powerful in *Christ*
If that cross becomes heavy on my shoulders, all I need to do is remember the treasures it holds for me.

Who will carry the cross? Will you?

“Deny thyself, take up thy cross and follow Me,”

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” Mt. 5: 43-44

“Do not repay anyone evil for evil.....Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath....If your enemy is hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on their heads. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.” Ro. 17: 12

GOD Bless you in your walk with the Lord...


34 posted on 03/17/2009 11:04:37 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

Hey Rabbi, With the world wanting all Jews thrown into the fire...maybe you shouldn’t throw gasoline.Dumb As$!


35 posted on 03/17/2009 11:12:46 AM PDT by odin2008 (EVIL TRIUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: nathanbedford

Hah! On my “about” page, I think I’m listed as 16 yrs. old. Just can’t seem to correct that and now I’m 62. Procrastination?


36 posted on 03/17/2009 11:20:44 AM PDT by Twinkie (Obama is NOT Reagan !)
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To: TaraP
Probably a fake planted story.
When I was there, the only thing they worried about was using cell phones and wearing a yamaka.
All the Rabbi's I saw were happy to see a gentile join in.
37 posted on 03/17/2009 11:30:48 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras

That’s good to know...

IMO everything we have here on Planet Earth is a gift from GOD...He can take it back just as he giveth...

That includes the Western Wall...


38 posted on 03/17/2009 11:44:35 AM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

TaraP: Thank you for your kind words. I am merely a sinner.


39 posted on 03/17/2009 11:46:27 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood

I am merely a sinner too!

:)


40 posted on 03/17/2009 12:04:03 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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... but bring a koran.

41 posted on 03/17/2009 12:06:05 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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42 posted on 03/17/2009 4:52:55 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: Cicero
I can’t imagine anyone making a problem if an Orthodox Jew entered a Catholic Church in full regalia. This is more of a secular and political attitude than a religious one, IMHO.

As I noted on another thread, an observant Jew wouldn't enter with a tallit or tefillin because they're worn when praying, and he wouldn't go to a Church to pray. Many observant Jews wear a kippah or other head covering all the time, that wouldn't be allowed when visiting, for example, St. Peters.

Since this is one Rabbi's opinion, and people visit with cross' all the time, it's really not much of an issue.

43 posted on 03/17/2009 4:57:24 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: Zathras
Probably a fake planted story. When I was there, the only thing they worried about was using cell phones and wearing a yamaka. All the Rabbi's I saw were happy to see a gentile join in.

No, it's his opinion, but as you note contrary to accepted practice. Cross' aren't banned, they won't be when the Pope visits.

44 posted on 03/17/2009 4:58:59 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: KarlInOhio
I'm not familar with Rabbi Rabinovitch. Is he a serious Jewish religious leader, or is he the Jewish version of "Reverend" Fred Phelps?

He's the Rabbi of the Western Wall, and is in charge of conduct and appearances. Every year or two he makes the news. A couple years ago it was asking a group of European clergy not to display their crosses openly, once not allowing American female Rabbis to wear tallit. He's the one who got upset, as he should, when someone removed Obama's prayer and released it to the press. A local official.

45 posted on 03/17/2009 5:06:34 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: KarlInOhio
I'm not familar with Rabbi Rabinovitch. Is he a serious Jewish religious leader, or is he the Jewish version of "Reverend" Fred Phelps?

He is the Head Rabbi responsible for the Kotel ( the Western Wall )
which is a synagogue and the most Holy site for Observant Orthodox Jews.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
46 posted on 03/17/2009 5:11:12 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: TaraP

Pope Joihn Paul II prayed at the Kotel dressed as he wanted, so to Pope Benedict will. The Cross part is mentioned by the cultral liberals to screw Orthodox Jews. There is no context here. The Western Wall is the remnant of the holiest site in Judaism. In some respects, it symbolically is the Temple. It is one thing for a non-Jew to pray there, it is another to do so in explicitly non-Jewish terms. No Jew would ask to pray in full religious garb at St. Peter’s.

Not allowing Jews to pray for hours around the Pope’s visit makes this a real insult, something the Christian poster’s here just don’t see.

The story does not relate why the Irish Prelates were not allowed to pray. Were they trying to do so as part of a political stunt? We don’t know. And the atheist writer doesn;t care to tell us because facts are not the purpose, running a hit piece on Jewish control of Jewish sites is.


47 posted on 03/17/2009 6:33:31 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: Cicero
I could imagine there being a problem if the Chief Rabbi of Israel decided to pray in St. Peter's Basilica in full religious garb. Or what if he wanted to pray for the Jews buried under the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. I'm certain that the Armenian clerics would go nuts.

The Western Wall is the only remainder Jews have the Temple. it is holy ground in a way that no church is for Christians. It is all but equal to the Kaba for Muslims.

Still this is a contrived controversy as the pope will pray as he wishes.

48 posted on 03/17/2009 6:40:42 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: TaraP
He IS the Pope. . .and was invited as such; did this rabbi expect him to come as a 'pretender' in profane disguse?

What kind of idiocy is this?

49 posted on 03/17/2009 6:50:06 PM PDT by cricket (January 20, 2009 - the day the music died)
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To: SJackson

Is there a precedent for this? As for example, has the Pope ever visited a mosque, and removed his cross out of respect for the mosque?


50 posted on 03/17/2009 7:00:30 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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