Someone remind me later to thank all the little brainwashed sheep that voted in the current administration.
Posted on 03/16/2009 8:38:26 AM PDT by george76
The National Park Service has set a goal of eliminating lead from fishing and hunting gear by 2010.
Acting Park Service director Dan Wenk announced the goal Wednesday in Washington. Fragments of lead bullets are suspected to contaminate scavenger birds, like ravens and eagles, and lead used as fishing weights could poison waterfowl and other species.
A firearms group was quick to condemn the action.
“The National Park Service’s decision is arbitrary, over-reactive and not based on science,” Steve Sanetti, president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, said in a statement. His group is a trade association for the firearms and ammunition industry.
“Studies show that traditional ammunition does not pose a health risk to humans, or wildlife populations as a whole,” he said.
The Park Service is grappling with another firearms issue — whether to allow parks visitors to carry concealed weapons as allowed by permit elsewhere. While the Bush administration implemented new rules allowing concealed weapons, the Obama team is reviewing those in a growing skirmish pitting Second Amendment advocates against conservationists.
In announcing the lead goal, Wenk said a ban would extend to rangers who put down wounded or injured animals.
Jackson Hole News&Guide Outdoors columnist Paul Bruun said he wouldn’t expect a drop in performance from bullets made from substitute metals. At issue will be convenience and cost.
Rifles need to be sighted according to a particular ammunition, and switching from lead to a substitute should include a session at a shooting range to ensure accuracy, he said. Those who load their own ammo also would be inconvenienced, he said.
“I think where you’re going to lose is going to be in your pocketbook,”
(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonholenews.com ...
Sportsmen nationwide must immediately contact their U.S. representatives and senators.
Ask your congressman and two U.S. senators to urge the Obama Administration to stop the National Park Service from its plan to stop the use lead ammunition and fishing tackle on its lands.
http://www.ussportsmen.org/Page.aspx?pid=1938
While the Bush administration implemented new rules allowing concealed weapons, the Obama team is reviewing those in a growing skirmish pitting Second Amendment advocates against conservationists.
The issue pits Second Amendment advocates against against leftist control freaks.
Jackson Hole News&Guide Outdoors columnist Paul Bruun said he wouldn’t expect a drop in performance from bullets made from substitute metals.
Someone remind me later to thank all the little brainwashed sheep that voted in the current administration.
“We’re not talking an Argentine duck shoot here – 1,000 shots a day,”
If a ranger finds an injured animal, I guess they'll just have to bash their skull in with a rock? (the animals I mean).
Or, as written, does this mean that rangers who put down wounded or injured animals will be banned from National Parks?
Kinda silly for them to ban rangers from the parks, but I guess they're in charge...
It started with cigarettes, now this. Where are all the cheerleaders for increasing cigarette taxes? Watch it, caffiene and sugary drinks will soon get a national ban or tax.
Now ... all copper is likely to be more expensive. But that's what this is really all about: Making life difficult for the armed citizen subject.
The enviro-wacko’s claim wolf re-introduction eliminates the need for hunting by humans
Part of an ongoing agenda to collapse the 2nd Am.
Except the bullet weight tends not to drop much, so you end up with a longer bullet with a higher ballistic coefficient and better ballistics.
Achieved at a much higher cost...
Guess we will just have to save and discharge our lead projectiles at, in the true spirit of the 2nd Amendment... Tyranny!
Except the bullet weight tends not to drop much, so you end up with a longer bullet with a higher ballistic coefficient and better ballistics.
If copper were as good or better, some shooters (competition, hunters) would already be using it. There is a reason why lead is used.
It’s the only metal over 10k kg/m^3 that isn’t radioactive, preciously expensive, or so hard it will destroy a rifle barrel.
No more lead weights and no more...
“What the heck is anti-conservation about self defense?”
have you been around conservationists much? They are the biggest bunch of liberals ever.
No swimming, no picnicking, no flower picking, no walking on the grass.
Remember, this is your park.
I missed that story. The a**holes are going after the ammunition and components. The shelves are bare of ammo and components already.
The wolves are wiping out the deer, elk and moose. They are turning to domestic livestock and making forays into cities in search of food. You'll need to watch your pets and your own safety as this progresses.
That is why you mix the copper with some tungsten (wolfram) to bump up the weight.
Iron coated tungsten shot travels even further, making your 16 shoot like a 12, and your 20 shoot like a 16.
And then, like the tax on pot, they can just refuse to sell the tax stamps, or even to print them up.
Enviromental nazis never used the word conservationist until recently. The definition of conservationist used to include farmers, loggers, hunters, & fisherman. Conservation means you use the natural resources wisely. Wise is something environnmentalists are not. Thus the need to start calling themselves conservationists.
Every time one of the nazis calls themselves a conservationist they need to be called on it.
Thanks for the ping George.
They’ve been trying to do this for a long time. There are those who would like to see fishing/hunting banned totally in parks.
The Park Service has only a small percentage of national parks open for hunting. The anti’s goals include closing all parks to these consumptive uses.
I knew all of those depleted uranium rounds I have been hoarding would come in handy some day.
“The definition of conservationist used to include farmers, loggers, hunters, & fisherman. Conservation means you use the natural resources wisely.”
true, and they are trying in various forms to ban farming, logging, hunting and fishing.
You NAILED IT Cold Heart. This needs to be repeated often:
“Enviromental nazis never used the word conservationist until recently. The definition of conservationist used to include farmers, loggers, hunters, & fisherman. Conservation means you use the natural resources wisely. Wise is something environnmentalists are not. Thus the need to start calling themselves conservationists.
Every time one of the nazis calls themselves a conservationist they need to be called on it.
I do a lot of fishing, and i fish salt water. Everything I use, almost, has lead. It sure would suck if they implement this in a year.
I got together with some friends, and we melted down hundreds of pounds of scrap lead into various lead-based fishing gear. Sinkers, weighted trebel hooks, “bucktails”, all kinds of stuff. I have about a 10 year supply. UGH!
Even if you did lose the lead, it’s nearly insoluble, so there is no real danger.
I fish rocky New England waters, and do lose a considerable amount of lead, especially going for blackfish. The lead levels in the water are not elevated, especially not from sportfishing.
Abosolutely, George!
Thanks for the post and ping.
No swimming, no picnicking, no flower picking, no walking on the grass no camping no fishing no fun you tax dollars at work.
Interesting. However, my main concern is rifles and pistols, not shotguns. Iron/tungsten would destroy a rifled barrel
Effectively, it eliminates any hunting of any kind.
Harmful to ducks? I never heard of divers that feed that deep.
As I understand it lead is heavier than dirt or mud. So what happens to the lead from shot, bullets or lures? It sinks out of sight within weeks if not days or hours when laying on the bottom.
Regulations for the purpose of control of people pure and simple.
Another draconian regulation based on "suspected" and "could".
Disgusting.
No proof required - just a regulatory agency with a woodie for power.
So let's ban it, just because we can.
Pathetic.
Sure would, but that is why you use the copper jacket...
As the other poster noted, Barnes-X. Been around a while and, not some, quite a few shooters are using them.
I haven't and don't care to be forced to.
Deranged, all of them. Why don’t we all just sit in our homes with no electricity. Stop driving, stop doing anything. Just sit in our homes and read books or magazines that are on the zer0 approved reading list. This is out of control now.
If hunting and fishing are outlawed, just think of all the taxes we wouldn't have to pay for the wardens, management, etc. Oh, wait, it woulddn't even come close to the lost tax revenue sportsmen pump into the economy with their sporting goods, restaurant, RV, camping, hotel purchases, etc.
This isn't just anti-sportsmen, it's anti-business!
Be Ever Vigilant!
Sure would, but that is why you use the copper jacket...
(Never mind the extraordinary cost difference).
They are trying to GET AROUND the concealed carry legalization that Bush implemented, by BANNING THE AMMO!
Not in a properly saboted round
Not as well as uranium with an aluminum jacket. Actually these were tried by the military and although they worked fine in a .50 cal, they had a tendency to turn sideways in a .30 barrel and destroy the barrel. Of course they were using a plastic jacket that would fly off upon leaving the barrel.
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