Posted on 03/15/2009 8:18:43 AM PDT by BGHater
Police Report Says Priest Wielded Unknown Object; But Cop On Tape Knows It’s A Camera
A Roman Catholic priest who monitors law enforcement treatment of minorities with a video camera released footage that appears to contradict the police account of his own arrest.
A police report says the Rev. James Manship was confronted and arrested Feb. 19 because he was holding an "unknown shiny silver object" and struggled with an officer who was trying to take it from him. But a 15-second video released this week by Manship's attorneys shows East Haven police Officer David Cari asking Manship, "Is there a reason you have a camera on me?"
"I'm taking a video of what's going on here," Manship replies.
"Well, I'll tell you what, what I'm going to do with that camera," Cari says as he approaches the priest. The tape then goes blank.
The arrest has reignited the debate about racial profiling and ethnic discrimination in East Haven, a working-class community of about 28,000 that borders New Haven. The shooting death of an unarmed black man by an East Haven officer in 1997 sparked harsh criticism by minority groups that has lingered. Manship and his parishioners say officers have been unfairly targeting Hispanics in recent months.
Hugh Keefe, a New Haven attorney who represents East Haven police, said the videotape shows only a small portion of what happened and confirms part of what Cari wrote in his report. He also said the tape doesn't show what happened from the time the camera was turned off until Manship's arrest.
Marcia Chacon, co-owner of My Country Store, where Manship was arrested, said Friday that the priest surrendered peacefully after the camera was shut off.
"He didn't say anything," she said.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
In the real world, a German policeman would have broken the guy’s arm taking the thing away from him.
Politicians are pathological liars.
Cops, as the muscle backing up politicians, lie too, but they tend to be less skilled at it...
Cheers!
I’m torn on this. Citizens have the right to tape a public action. But I remember that cop that had a perp handcuffed and over a car and was beating him for no apparent reason. It looked bad.....until it came out that the perp had the cops privates in his cuffed hands and was squeezing. Sometimes these tapes clarify. And sometimes they don’t.
"I'm taking a video of what's going on here," Manship replies.
"Well, I'll tell you what, what I'm going to do with that camera," Cari says as he approaches the priest. The tape then goes blank.
A police report says the Rev. James Manship was confronted and arrested Feb. 19 because he was holding an "unknown shiny silver object" and struggled with an officer who was trying to take it from him.
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So, the officer lied on the police report. Bye, bye Civilian Cari.
Not all cops are bad and not call cops are good cops.
Recently watched Changeling (not sure how much of it was true), but having people watch the police isn’t really a bad thing as long as they stay out of the way and just report accurately what happened (Good and Bad).
I keep telling folks that the military is not going to be as much of a concern as our police officers if martial law is declared. Some of these guys have no intention of wasting perfectly good SWAT gear and training.
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Van Jones to the rescue ??? (See Obambi Green Czar)
These kinds of threads can be interesting once the badge lickers show up and find new ways to turn themselves into pretzels.
But enough of them are so the public has a legitimate reason to distrust and dislike them. Until they police their own departments and rid themselves of problematic and downright dirty cops and management they and their supporters have no right to feel put upon or slighted.
The public gets what it pays for. I was amazed to learn the puny salaries of those who are supposed to risk their life to protect us. You pay dirt, you get dirt.
The next time my local police department calls me out because there's a search and rescue mission (I'm a volunteer) the term badge licker is going to be stuck in my head real bad.
Any substantive corruption by police officers should be punishable by death. If there’s any job where there must be zero tolerance for corruption, that’s the one.
At the very least he should be kicked off the force- and I hope he does go to jail. This wasn’t even a tense situation. It was just a super jerk of a cop who was acting like an @sshole. Watch the cop on the right- he/she doesn’t want anything to do with the situation.
“I keep telling folks that the military is not going to be as much of a concern as our police officers if martial law is declared. Some of these guys have no intention of wasting perfectly good SWAT gear and training.”
I have done an awful lot of reading in my life about war, invasions, conquests, occupations and such, and I don’t recall ever seeing where the indigenous police were a problem for the new powers that be.
You're not in California, are you?
So, the presumption here is that the police have a right to know what everything is that you are carrying, which implies unlimited search powers.
I have several times had a police officer draw a pistol-gripped black device and aim it directly at me, while I was driving. Under the standard offered above, I should have the right to shoot the officer, because I didn't know what it was or whether it was a firearm, and therefore a deadly threat. (In fact, it was a radar gun, which I could see for sure only after coming much closer to the officer.)
Union cops make great money and incredible benefits compared to many of us.
The Town of East Haven is currently accepting applications to test for the position of "Police Officer C". The salary for this position is $47,491/year and the Town offers an excellent benefit package.
Qualified candidates must possess a high school diploma or GED and be 21 years of age.
Cross-Border Cops Arrest Father Jim
As the head of a parish with a growing population of newcomers from Latin America, Manship has been an outspoken advocate for Ecuadorians and other immigrants.
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“A Toxic Iceberg”
“My arrest is the tip of a toxic iceberg,” said Father Manship, during a recent visit back to My Country Store. Manship said that there has been an ongoing campaign of racial profiling, threats, and discrimination perpetrated by the East Haven police department against Latinos and Latino businesses in East Haven.
According to Father Manship, and Latino business owners interviewed, members of the East Haven police department make a practice of parking their cruisers outside of businesses like My Country Store, Guti’z Bakery, La Bamba restaurant, and Los Amigos grocery, waiting for Latino customers to exit and then pulling them over as soon as they drive out of the parking lot. The police then allegedly shout and swear at the drivers and passengers, demanding identification, car registration, and insurance. Latino drivers have been issued exorbitant tickets, had their cars towed, and been told to get out of town, the business owners said.
The owners said police officers punch holes in licenses and throw out-of-state licenses to the ground, saying that they are worthless. Two store owners said that the police ripped in half the license of one out of state driver.
Then explain to me why the military, who has a lower pay scale and a far more dangerous job, has a significantly better image and performance record. A hint might be found in the UCMJ and the lack of unionization.
Exactly, but mention that to an officer the next time you go to the range and watch the response!
Sounds like he is a OBL lover. That does not change the actions of the officer.
I assume that the officer has been charged with perjury?
The officer commited perjury in a sworn statement. He is lucky to get away with just loss of job.
City’s false arrest settlement with priest? Probably somewhere between $50,000 amd $200,000. City does NOT want this case in front of a jury.
In this video the perp priest’s hands were on the other side of the display counter from the officer’s privates.
"After the police arrested the priest, they noticed that the store was equipped with security cameras. Elio Cruz, a leader in New Haven’s Virgen Del Cisne Ecuadorian community, was in the store that night. “When [the police officers] realized there was videotaping from My Country Store, they went crazy,” Cruz recalled later. “They said it was illegal and they tried to grab the computer.”
Matute said that three officers entered the back room without his permission and searched the shelves in his storeroom. When they found the hard drive containing the store’s digital security camera footage, they wanted to take it, but Matute wouldn’t let them, he said. Matute said that the officers then called a detective to bring a video camera to record the security footage off of the computer screen, but the detective’s camera didn’t work...
(Any ten year old can tell you you can copy the files onto a USB memory stick.)
Please, please, please speak with a lawyer familiar with the laws of your state if you ever think that again.
And please, fellow FReepers, I assume it was posted in satire, but regardless, the above is NOT valid legal advice.
The point was that you often don’t get the whole story. As per raybbr in post 20, apparently the police harass illegals and this priest objects.
Thank heavens the officers did not shooting at the object.
Of course they might start shooting at other officer's badges as well.
Oh for Pete’s sake, my son was issued a ticket in Arizona for having an out of state license, car registration and insurance. The car was owned by my husband who has the same name as my son and paid for the car, the registration and insurance.
The cop should do time. In a maximum security prison with other dangerous, violent offenders.
It’s illegal to live in a state and own a car registered in another state. New residents are given a time limit to switch.
Put a cop on a video shoot-or-no-shoot scenario, (he’s got an optical gun, watches a movie in front of him, and bad guys and little old ladies crossing the street pop up before him, and he must decide to shoot or not), and have someone with a radar gun draw on him and see what he does.
My son did not own the car, my husband owned it and covered my son on his insurance while my son was a student.
Seems the .gov mantra of “If you’ve nothing to hide, what’s the objection?” only applies to citizens and not themselves.
When do we re-format and re-install the original OS Constitution 1.0?
All he had to do was prove that. That isn’t up to the cop.
OTOH, there was a curious officer who aimed his radar gun at a landing fast mover a few years ago - the only thing that save his life, is the pilot had the missles locked out...
However, through different policies and such, more D's and R's are being produced than people who love the Constitution.
I don’t blame the cops. They are only carrying out the anti-Catholic orders of a corrupt administration.
Harassment By Police Needs A Stop Sign
The other day, some thugs wearing military gear drove down from Massachusetts and dropped off racist fliers at St. Rose and other locations, predicting an immigrant invasion. "Wake up America! We are being attacked!" one leaflet warned.
Apparently this priest follows the cops around. It sounds like he is harassing them.
Btw, I’m not trying to justify the cops actions. Citizens are free to film in public places. But since the priest backs illegals and the cops are trying to catch them, this priest will provoke confrontations. At least I believe that he will.
Sounds to me like the priest is providing a voluntary oversight service to the city. His camera would certainly be valuable evidence against false abuse charges. The city should thank him.
It looks to me like this priest was trying to protect members of his community and the harassment was being done by the cops.
In California, cops are all paid 6 figures, and there are plenty of dirty cops in California.
Indeed. We can reasonably expect and demand a greater level of scrutiny and accountability of those entrusted with the power to deprive citizens of life, liberty, and property until due process can be served.
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