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High school student in 'conflict resolution' session stabs his bully
chicago sun times ^ | March 12, 2009 | MAUDLYNE IHEJIRIKA AND ROSALIND ROSSI

Posted on 03/12/2009 11:59:17 PM PDT by tlb

A 16-year-old charter high school student allegedly struck out against a classmate who had been bullying him Wednesday by stabbing the youth with a scissors in a school hallway.

Chicago Public Schools officials said the stabbing happened during a "conflict resolution" session -- in which the perpetrator and his father had come to meet with the dean of academics over how to address threats from the alleged bully.

CPS officials said the father and son had been meeting with school officials on the issue just before 9 a.m., when the son left the dean's office and encountered the alleged bully in the hallway.

The alleged perpetrator reportedly ran back into the office and grabbed a scissors from the dean's desk before the stabbing, officials said.

The youth was in serious condition Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bully; bullying; chicago; counseling; cps; schoolviolence; stabbing
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Truly effective counseling always cuts to the heart of the problem.
1 posted on 03/12/2009 11:59:17 PM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

LOL. And so it begins....


2 posted on 03/13/2009 12:00:22 AM PDT by Anti-Kenyan
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To: tlb

And voila, the conflict is resolved!


3 posted on 03/13/2009 12:00:53 AM PDT by eclecticEel (I already have a Messiah, I don't need another one.)
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To: tlb

“Sounds like we had a breakthrough today in counseling.”


4 posted on 03/13/2009 12:03:07 AM PDT by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: tlb

Don’t bring a bully to a scissor fight.


5 posted on 03/13/2009 12:04:09 AM PDT by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: tlb

Conflict resolved.


6 posted on 03/13/2009 12:07:08 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: SIDENET

Don’t bring a big smart ass mouth to a scissor fight. ;-)


7 posted on 03/13/2009 12:13:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: tlb

Well I can understand. I was considered a nerd and tormented by many during my school days. One day, one of the bullies walked by and slapped me and kept walking.

Unfortunately for him, I had had enough and knocked him down from behind and stomped and kicked him. I truly believe I would have killed him had my friend not stopped me.

Well, I knew I was going to be in deep crap, but he refused to tell what happened to him. We had been out of sight during lunch. He had to go to the hospital and missed school for over 2 weeks but never said anything about it. Nor did my friend or I. He also never messed with me again!


8 posted on 03/13/2009 12:23:58 AM PDT by packrat35 (You could make a fortune as a politician if you have the moral standards of a convicted pedophile)
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To: tlb
......And then he ran away.


9 posted on 03/13/2009 12:26:21 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: tlb

Well...I guess that handles the bullying...


10 posted on 03/13/2009 12:33:20 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: packrat35

That’s awesome, I mean “horrible”, no I mean awesome.


11 posted on 03/13/2009 12:34:16 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Didn’t his mother tell him never to run with scissors?
Guess not.


12 posted on 03/13/2009 12:41:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tlb

At least no one lost an eye.


13 posted on 03/13/2009 12:42:28 AM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: packrat35

I got my 10th grade bully .. finally ... 30th Reunion .. I flattened him... went to the bar put $20 down..told bartended.. when he comes too,,, the next rounds on me.

During HS... he always had a gang with him.. when I had it. swung around and proceeded to open a can of whoopa** on the BIGGEST of the gang (not the perp) pounded on him until he got the best of me.. He never bothered me again. .. until^


14 posted on 03/13/2009 12:43:49 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (My 2nd amendment protects my 1st amendment... I carry a GUN because I can't Carry a LAWYER!)
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To: period end of story

Good decision. He’ll probably get juvy. School probably sucks for him anyway. Any decent lawyer ought to be able to get him off any real jailtime.


15 posted on 03/13/2009 12:44:33 AM PDT by exist
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To: tlb

I say the victim figured out quick that Conflict Resolution is a joke...and just went after the bully anyway

Conflict Resolution is a joke...it equates the perp to the victim....and tries to put blame on the victim.

Its that liberal pro-criminal mentality that permeates in liberal society....like being pro-illegal alien, no capital punishment for murders, reduced sentences for violent criminals....all methods that value the rights of criminals over the rights of victims


16 posted on 03/13/2009 1:22:24 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: tlb
Chicago Public Schools officials said the stabbing happened during a "conflict resolution" session -- in which the perpetrator and his father had come to meet with the dean of academics over how to address threats from the alleged bully.

Notice where it took place: The two boys were 16-year-old sophomores at the DuSable Leadership Academy of Betty Shabazz International Charter, housed within DuSable at 4934 S. Wabash.

I know of a Chicago high school whose principal was beaten up by a student. The student got a 50 day suspension. On the other hand, a teacher in the same school was being harassed by a bully and she had him arrested and made sure that all the students knew about it, telling them that she was no longer going to take any behavior like this and that any such in the future would result in arrest.
17 posted on 03/13/2009 1:27:43 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: tlb

now that is conflict resolution with a vengance.


18 posted on 03/13/2009 1:39:01 AM PDT by madamemayhem (proper grammar and spelling please, boys and girls.)
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To: tlb

Problem solved


19 posted on 03/13/2009 1:49:09 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ( O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Asinine Mistake, America)
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To: tlb
A neighbor of mine had a problem like this years ago with his kid in school. He took care of it the first time he went to the school to see a "counselor". It was all over in the introductions, he simply said, "either YOU stop this, or I tell your wife about your monthly "meetings" at the Holiday Inn. His kid never had to come into the office for the session.
20 posted on 03/13/2009 1:51:58 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: tlb

conflict resolved...


21 posted on 03/13/2009 1:54:34 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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tries to put blame on the victim

Exactly! I had this happen with one of my kids. They said things like, "What is it about your behavior that brings your classmate to do things to you?"

We told the principle to stop the 'counseling' and bullying immediately or else. It stopped.

22 posted on 03/13/2009 2:49:00 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: tlb
To me, it looks like the old “Hand Game”: Rock, Paper, Scissors, Stab!
23 posted on 03/13/2009 3:04:25 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: packrat35

It usually works.
In my mid teens I had a similar problem. We had just moved from Pennsylvania to North Carolina - and I was “That Damned Yankee”. 5 kids decided to fight the civil war over again.
My mother just kept telling me there was never a reason to fight. If I did nothing they’d soon tire of it. My father had a different opinion and enrolled me in a Judo/Karate class.
I put up with it for about a year. One afternoon I was cornered in a room with the 5. They attacked, I defended. I herded them to the office and reported the attack.
The principle laughed and told me “Boys will be boys!”, sent one kid to the hospital and told me I was suspended and to go home. I went to class.
There were kids of thought using Judo wasn’t fair. I’d ask if 5-1 odds was fair. I wasn’t bothered again. 2 of them became friends.


24 posted on 03/13/2009 3:27:20 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

I had this same kind of crap to deal with. I had a ultra-Leftist educational-establishment step parent at home whose attitude was always ‘well, you must’ve done something to set them off’.
Well, yeah. I can see how walking to class with my book bag minding my own business might be viewed as a grave provocation. *spit*

The only thing that ever worked was to flatten the bastard. The last time that I had to resort to that was in the service. After repeated, unprovoked attacks and harassment, I flattened a Lance-Corporal with a mattock handle across the shins. I was careful not to break them. I was a private just out of boot. He wanted to be all buddy-buddy after that. I wanted him to fsck off. He finally did.


25 posted on 03/13/2009 3:54:08 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: tlb
The bully had paper.
Scissors beats paper.

...I will give up my scissors when they pry them from my cold dead hands...

26 posted on 03/13/2009 4:01:32 AM PDT by Bon mots
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When “busing” began in out area, we were bused to a mixed school We were a bunch of rich kids. We had always fought by Queensbury rules. Black kids didn’t fight like that. If one kid got an advantage, the other kid pulled a weapon. It was quite the education.


27 posted on 03/13/2009 4:08:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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The Skool could be in trouble since they left dangerous weapons out where kids could use them. It's lawsuit time. ;0)
28 posted on 03/13/2009 4:17:01 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: R. Scott

These types of things do not end as well as they used to. There used to be a code of honor. You had a bully and another kid, and the friends of each would ensure that it was mano-e-mano til one was the clear winner.

Now days, the jerks pile on, jump you outside of school, in hallways. These people are dangerous gang members. There is no honor.They are brought up devoid of values, in a culture of death. They go after your property, your family, and will try to kill you. They use weapons and intolerable forms of initmidation and torture. The schools are impotent as they have had all the tools they need to be in control removed, and have created a sense of entitlement. The teachers are too afraid of the students to stand up to them, and the administration says these animals are entitled to an education so unless they kill someone, they are not removed, they are just susupended for a couple days. They come back with a vendetta, and the student they beat up/bullied is the person they blame for the suspension so they come back with the intent to harm them again. This goes on in suburban schools and it is widespread. If you kids are in public school, and you can make the necessary sacrifices, get them out asap. There are tons of great programs online to let them get a HS diploma, and as far as socialization, who wants their kids socializing with these animals?? Let them socialize with LIKEMINDED people. Ones on their sports teams, church youth group, and other controlled situations.

Both of my kids are currently in public schools. My older son is in all honors courses and has an excellent education. My youngest is in ESE education (he has aspergers syndrome)and these classrooms, at least in the upper grades, are just holding tanks for future criminals, and that is according to a teacher on the inside! I will be taking him home for the rest of this year. I can do this better and keep him safer. Check out your schools, this is much more prevelant than most parents would like to believe, and many students won’t tell for fear of retribution since most parents would be on the phone to the school that very minute. Next thing you know, your child has committed suicide for feeling like they have no way out. Socialism doesn’t work, and it destroys schools from within. We, as parents are not as aware as we should be because we remember with nostalgia our own school days, and cant imagine saying F#CK you to a teacher or admin, much less not being disciplined for it! this happens every day in almost every classroom. I was stunned, and while many on here may say they were not, I cannot imagine that if this were widely known, that parents would not absolutely storm the schools and DEMAND these maniacs be removed from school immediately! Their childrens safety is in jepordy and their educations are non existent. Their kids live in constant fear and when their teachers aren’t having sex with them, they are having in, in the classrooms, bathrooms, lunch rooms, and buses, with each other. Teen pregnancy, drug use, alcohol use, and cutting are climbing rapidly.

I get nervous when I see a gang of kids while I am walking to my car at the mall. If they notice me, I walk quicker and am thankful I took necessary steps to protect myself. I cannot imagine being a kid and having to spend all day around them, watching them take out one kid after another and always wondering, when will it be me. This is not a good learning enviroment! Remember, this is going on at your school, unless you go to sidwell friends, check it out for your kids sake!


29 posted on 03/13/2009 4:19:58 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb

Government schools are socialism in action. I hear a lot from conservatives these days about socialism, when are they going to start including government schools in their critique of socialism. Until they do that, they’re not serious.


30 posted on 03/13/2009 4:38:22 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama is the American Allende.)
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To: tlb
Left jab, right cross, left hook, uppercut


31 posted on 03/13/2009 4:53:59 AM PDT by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: tlb

My kid’s sixth grade teacher was offended when I told her the anti bully program was ridiculous and that my son had my permission to haul off and knock the snot out of anyone who bullies him.


32 posted on 03/13/2009 4:59:57 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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They need to bring back Reform Schools.

I graduated from High School 30 years ago and we had the same kind of thugz running around then. No discipline.


33 posted on 03/13/2009 5:02:53 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: packrat35

My son has apparently has had someone making his life miserable in school. The last straw was this week, when this kid grabbed a female friend of my son, threw her up against a wall and twisted her arm up behind her back.

According to all reports, my son simply beat the tar out of him the next morning before school. He got 3 days suspension and an arrest for misdemeanor assault (we have yet to go to court on that) but I think he feels quietly proud of himself.


34 posted on 03/13/2009 5:10:58 AM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: PLMerite

It tended to be concentrated in certain areas 30 years ago, except for the Scott Farkases of the world (as I am sure you know, thats the bully from A Christmas Story). Today, they will kill you over a pair of sneakers.

You are right though, reform schools would clear up the problem so fast your head would spin. I know that here in FL, it will never happen because a kid died in one here, as he was badly beaten by drill seargents. Yeah, its that bad.


35 posted on 03/13/2009 5:12:57 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: Rebelbase

The teachers and principals at my daughter’s school feel the same way. If she gets physically hurt by a another student, she is supposed to tell a teacher.

I told her to beat the person up, instead. That is the only way to make sure that person won’t mess with her in the future.

She has the right of self-defense. She also has a black belt in karate, and her next plan is to get a black belt in judo, too, while still working on karate.

The principal told me that if that happened, my daughter would be suspended. Go for it, I said.

No way is my daughter going to be raised to be a victim from the get go. What happens if a criminal goes after her? She’s got to have a self-defense mindset, not curl up and take it, then go find a teacher.


36 posted on 03/13/2009 5:21:18 AM PDT by cookiedough
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To: Anti-Kenyan

I had dinner with friends last night. One of the women mentioned that gangs are so prevalent in Jersey City public schools — not because of recruitment — but because these thugs are the children of gang members.

Well, at least they send their kids to school.


37 posted on 03/13/2009 5:22:51 AM PDT by goldi
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“Well, at least they send their kids to school.”

The thug kids go to school because they’re shaking down half the student body and selling drugs to the rest.


38 posted on 03/13/2009 5:25:32 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: tlb

Well, that’s one way to resolve a conflict.


39 posted on 03/13/2009 5:50:43 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: tlb

“conflict resolution” 1960s version! LOL!

It worked for me. I beat the crap out of my tormentor and he left me alone after that.


40 posted on 03/13/2009 6:08:02 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: tlb

Counseling, especially the lib social/post modern kind never works! THE ONLY think that would help this kid is forgivness, and a relationship with Christ. I’ve been in his place, though not with the violence, and these school admins/professionals are usually dodos who look past the real heart of the problem.


41 posted on 03/13/2009 6:14:30 AM PDT by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Bon mots

Hahaha!

Great picture post, Bon. Wonderful


42 posted on 03/13/2009 6:38:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: ktscarlett66

Ask your son if he does feel proud of himself. Then tell him he has every right to be.


43 posted on 03/13/2009 6:46:20 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: wastedyears

When I was in school, I would stand where others could see me and my shadow. And, I would shadow box.

During one fight, I got a black eye, chipped tooth and a bloody nose. And, the school bully’s never tried to asault me when my shadow was around.


44 posted on 03/13/2009 8:38:10 AM PDT by cl8ton
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To: gwilhelm56

“got my 10th grade bully .. finally ... 30th Reunion .. I flattened him... went to the bar put $20 down..told bartended.. when he comes too,,, the next rounds on me.

During HS... he always had a gang with him.. when I had it. swung around and proceeded to open a can of whoopa** on the BIGGEST of the gang (not the perp) pounded on him until he got the best of me.. He never bothered me again. .. until^”

Well done! I still have enough anger in me toward my school tormentors that I believe I would stomp them to death, even today, if I had the opportunity.


45 posted on 03/13/2009 8:45:36 AM PDT by postoak
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To: tlb

Well, that’s one way to resolve the conflict.


46 posted on 03/13/2009 8:49:39 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: postoak

bttt


47 posted on 03/13/2009 8:50:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: tlb

There is nothing that can be handled in a school hallway that can’t be handled after dark wearing a ski mask. So much random crime these days.


48 posted on 03/13/2009 8:58:02 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: packrat35

I have similar stories. I was just a quiet kid, not even nerdy, but that was enough to be a bully-magnet anyway. From elementary to junior high, I smacked down half a dozen of the creeps after they refused to leave me alone. Two mothers called my mom after their angels lost some teeth. My mom said, “Then tell your kid to stay away from my son.” and hung up. By high school most of the bully types were mellowed out on drugs.


49 posted on 03/13/2009 10:53:41 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (I am inconsolate over the death of our country.)
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To: Riley

As I posted - it works.


50 posted on 03/13/2009 1:16:29 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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