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Futures point to lower Wall Street open (heading south)
Market Watch ^ | 03/12/09 | Barbara Kollmeyer

Posted on 03/12/2009 4:26:34 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Futures point to lower Wall Street open

By Barbara Kollmeyer, MarketWatch

Last update: 5:52 a.m. EDT March 12, 2009

MADRID (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stock futures were heading south on Wall Street Thursday, with stocks overseas lower on the view a sustained turnaround for stocks can't be called yet, while Genentech agreed to a buyout worth $48.6 billion from Roche.

S&P 500 futures fell 5.1 points to 715.40 and Nasdaq 100 futures fell 6.5 points to 1,125. Dow industrial futures fell 45 points to 6,869.

U.S. stocks eked out their first back-to-back gains since early February Wednesday after JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Jamie Dimon became the latest to express confidence in his institution's profitability and downplay nationalization fears. The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed up 3.8 points, the S&P 500 rose 1.76 points and the Nasdaq tacked on 13.36 points. Those skeptical about the strong rally Tuesday, which marked the best gains for the Dow and S&P since November, were seeing signs of weakness in the skittish market.

"The U.S. and to a lesser degree Europe did exceptionally well to hang on to Tuesday's monster gains yesterday, which to all intents and purposes was just an overdue bear squeeze rally from a market that was also dramatically oversold on a technical basis," said David Buick, market analyst with BGC Partners, who noted that volumes were pretty low on Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dow; futures; stock

1 posted on 03/12/2009 4:26:35 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/12/2009 4:26:55 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

suckers rally as I said Tuesday. No fundamentals have changed, except to have gotten worse.


3 posted on 03/12/2009 4:29:29 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb

I guess I should sell my Citi Group share now......I need a cup of coffee.


4 posted on 03/12/2009 4:52:26 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: central_va

Buy and hold, strategy of old.


5 posted on 03/12/2009 4:53:11 AM PDT by wombtotomb (Since it is above his paygrade, why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: wombtotomb
suckers rally as I said Tuesday. No fundamentals have changed

Indeed. I see no reason for the market to change it's current trend of slowly dwindling lower and lower. In my opinion, the bottom is unfathomable at this point. Money available to the average investor is drying up, or is smartly being put aside in savings. I'd guess that investing new money in the stock market is currently not even on the minds of very many people, only those in unusual positions and those are a drop in the ocean concerning any change in the trend downward. A majority of stockholders are frozen and aghast at their potential losses, and are simply still paralyzed at the sight of the bear and are just hoping it wanders away.

We got what we got,
And downwards it goes,
When toes touch the bottom,
Nobody knows.
6 posted on 03/12/2009 4:58:57 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Mark-to-market will be compromised and the markets will explode to the upside forming another huge bubble. Then, that one will burst and we’ll see the greatest financial collapse in recorded history second only to the wipeout incurred in the great flood. Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin posted this on 3-12-2009.


7 posted on 03/12/2009 5:03:00 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
With a worse than predicted National Unemployment report, originally 8.5% to over 10% in just one month, the market will be lucky to remain in the 6,000 range. Add to that the drunken spending spree of this hapless government and the massive tax increases and inflation yet to come.

There will be sucker rallies as usual, but way too many investors have bailed out of the USA and now hold stocks in China, India, even Russia. With the Obama administration in charge, they have no other choice.

There is simply no future growth in sight here, while World production will go to China, India, etc,.

8 posted on 03/12/2009 5:04:11 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Doesn't have to be that way. Obama could wake up and reduce cap gains/corp taxes to zero, but he'd rather just zero out the economy.
9 posted on 03/12/2009 5:10:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
My question to you is, just where will all this “explosive” capital come from that will fuel this “market-to-market” upside bubble? What little is left of most people's retirements and investment accounts, has been moved or pulled out permanently.

With a projected GDP of 5.3% (down 2.5%) at the end of this year, (I believe it will be below 5%) how on earth will there be a “market compromise” (What ever the heck that is.)

10 posted on 03/12/2009 5:14:12 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

That’s what I’m hoping for. I transferred half my 401K into a money market fund last August. The other half has gotten completely hosed. I’ll be going all in on U.S. treasuries, but at this point, it looks like the best choice.

Not sure what to do when those go south.


11 posted on 03/12/2009 5:20:05 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Bait and Switch - that's change ain't it?)
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To: wombtotomb

I shorted the wole market in Jan. 08. Best move I ever made.


12 posted on 03/12/2009 5:20:36 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I don't know Jack about market trends. I've lost several thousands in 401K. I think it was Beck, but I heard somewhere to be aware of a bear market bump. The reason was - market ticks up for some insignificant reason, bunch of money pours in because of bear bump for no logical reason - Market dumps shortly after on more bad news. More capital lost. This scenario repeats itself until all available cash is gone. At this point Hussein Obama’s agenda of Socialism/Marxism becomes reality because his govt. will save us from this spiraling fall. Thanks to Soros/Rezko/0bama.
13 posted on 03/12/2009 5:24:21 AM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed

That scenario you describe has already happened. Sucker rallies will continue to suck out the rest of the hosts blood, but for the most part, the US interests are in deep deep trouble. Particularly the treasuries/Bond market.

With all the borrowed money this incompetent President and his mentally retarded Cabinet has committed this country to, Treasuries are one of the very worst things to be in right now. Run away inflation is just around the corner as soon as the tax increases kick in.


14 posted on 03/12/2009 5:30:51 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Before it is over, the stock market will be at zero. Along with that so will be everyone’s pension fund, 401K, and the government.obama and his desciples will continue to print worthless paper “money” by the trillions. obama and ACORN, along with his deciples did not win anything November 4, 2008. America lost. America lost everything. It hasn’t happemed yet, but the mechanism has been set in motion and hour by hour our way of life is being destroyed. Thanks again to the obama voters.


15 posted on 03/12/2009 5:40:54 AM PDT by sport
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To: Jack of all Trades

Treasuries won’t even be safe over the long term because all the debt we’re taking on is bound to hit them.


16 posted on 03/12/2009 5:44:25 AM PDT by Rob the Ugly Dude
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To: Salamander

bookmark


17 posted on 03/12/2009 5:50:08 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.......)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Mark-to-market will be compromised

I've been arguing with myself all week about that. Buffet is all for removing it from accounting, and he's a real smart money guy, but I see it as jerking numbers around to hide the fact the underpinnings of some banks are just sand.

Another smart guy once said, "It isn't a loss until you sell it."

Maybe he's right.

18 posted on 03/12/2009 5:52:12 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Retail sales were better than expected for Feb. That is a bright spot. And the financials, which have taken the largest hit, will probably continue to do decently unless there’s some news which dooms them. People are starting to see that not all the financial companies are in trouble and are investing in those that are sound. That is a help, because without support for financials, the market cannot improve markedly.

I do think today will be a down day, but probably not a plunge.

Institutional investors are still holding their powder. Keep an eye out, because when those investors start to put money back into equities, it might signal an end to the extreme volatility and the prices will climb.


19 posted on 03/12/2009 5:54:30 AM PDT by randita (Starve the beast - earn as little as you can get by on and spend even less.)
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To: ZX12R
Money available to the average investor is drying up, or is smartly being put aside in savings. I'd guess that investing new money in the stock market is currently not even on the minds of very many people

Most of the plunge was due to credit contraction especially in Europe. Once that eases the market will stabilize and rise. Individual investors here are not really relevant.

20 posted on 03/12/2009 5:55:35 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yes, it is entirely feasible, but also a frightening development, although many would not understand the ‘frightening’ part.


21 posted on 03/12/2009 6:27:06 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Looks like the market is going to be neutral today. Went up a hair but isn’t doing anything now.


22 posted on 03/12/2009 6:29:17 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
We can say it is Wall St.’s ‘Battle of Bulge.’ The upswing may be rather explosive but rather short-lived. Maybe a few week or a month at best. The last burst of insanity right before the ultimate reckoning.
23 posted on 03/12/2009 6:38:47 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: Eye of Unk

The Great Carnac predicts a 240 point rise


24 posted on 03/12/2009 2:29:21 PM PDT by newbie 10-21-00
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