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Gingrich to Convert to Catholicism
Christianity Today ^ | 3/9/09 | Sarah Pullman

Posted on 03/09/2009 11:02:24 AM PDT by pissant

Buried in an large New York Times Magazine profile of Newt Gingrich is a little nugget of information: A Baptist since graduate school, Gingrich said he will soon convert to Catholicism, his wife’s faith.

At a moment when the role of religious fundamentalism in the party is a central question for reformers, Gingrich, rather than making any kind of case for a new enlightenment, has in fact gone to great lengths to placate Christian conservatives. The family-values crowd has never completely embraced Newt, probably because he has been married three times, most recently to a former Hill staff member, Callista Bisek. In 2006, though, Gingrich wrote a book called “Rediscovering God in America” — part of a new canon of work he has done reaffirming the role of religion in public life. The following year, he went on radio with the evangelical minister James Dobson to apologize for having been unfaithful to his second wife.

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Kudlow and Laura Ing. have done so as well. Welcome Newt, but please leave your global warming malarkey behind now. Thanks.
1 posted on 03/09/2009 11:02:24 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

I pray they have all come to the fullness of faith in Jesus Christ, not only in ‘the church.’


2 posted on 03/09/2009 11:05:55 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary
...not only in ‘the Church.’

No charge for corrections.

3 posted on 03/09/2009 11:06:39 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: pissant

Also Judge Bork and Robert Novak. Welcome Newt. The more the merrier.


4 posted on 03/09/2009 11:06:46 AM PDT by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: pissant
Buried in an large New York Times Magazine profile of Newt Gingrich is a little nugget of information: A Baptist since graduate school, Gingrich said he will soon convert to Catholicism, his wife’s faith.

Think twice, Newt. This Church isn't as open to divorce as your other one was.

5 posted on 03/09/2009 11:06:49 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Marysecretary
They will in "the Church"
6 posted on 03/09/2009 11:07:51 AM PDT by notaliberal (Obama: The Abortion President)
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To: pissant
Maybe the conversion will help him. I think back to the late 80s/early 90s version of Newt and compare that one to the current version and wonder what happened to him.
7 posted on 03/09/2009 11:08:45 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Non-Sequitur

That only applies if he was married in the Catholic Church.


8 posted on 03/09/2009 11:09:12 AM PDT by sissyjane (Fred!!)
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To: pissant

I’m sure this will inflame the left even more against him.


9 posted on 03/09/2009 11:10:06 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is a serious mental disturbance)
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To: GinaLolaB

Didn’t W and Tony Blair also convert?


10 posted on 03/09/2009 11:10:16 AM PDT by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: GinaLolaB
Also Judge Bork and Robert Novak....

And Larry Kudlow. The more the merrier indeed!

11 posted on 03/09/2009 11:10:54 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: All

Perhaps he can focus on being a genuine conservative as opposed to a populist.


12 posted on 03/09/2009 11:13:18 AM PDT by texan75010
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To: Camel Joe
Blair officially became Catholic (formerly he was Church of England) when he left office. There may have been constitutional issues with a British Prime Minister being Catholic.

W was raised Episcopalian (US Church of England) and became Methodist after marrying Laura.

Common thread is leaving Anglicanism.

13 posted on 03/09/2009 11:14:27 AM PDT by Martin Tell (Happily lurking in one location for over ten years)
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To: sissyjane

The Church’s presumption is in favour of the validity of ALL Christian marriages, not just those contracted within the Church.

Now, I have no idea if any Gingrich’s marriages were indeed Christian, but he’s probably going to have do some work to straighten out his current situation in any event.


14 posted on 03/09/2009 11:14:27 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Camel Joe

Blair did, but not W, to the best of my knowledge. We’d certainly welcome W.


15 posted on 03/09/2009 11:15:38 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Camel Joe

There have been rumors about Blair, but I haven’t seen any official word. The rumors surfaced when he was PM and many said he wouldn’t do it while PM since it would amount to abandoning the official state religion. I believe he attends RC mass with wife and kids.

Regarding W, the answer is ‘no’. Perhaps you’re thinking of Jeb Bush who did convert.


16 posted on 03/09/2009 11:16:01 AM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: Petronski

Can we get Cardinal Mahoney to convert to Episcopalian?


17 posted on 03/09/2009 11:16:22 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: GinaLolaB

Ah yes. Two fine gentlemen.


18 posted on 03/09/2009 11:16:57 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Camel Joe

Tony Blair did become a Catholic. President Bush has not, but it would not surprise me, if he and Laura did convert.


19 posted on 03/09/2009 11:17:07 AM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: pissant

We used to pray for the “conversion of Russia”. I now pray for the conversion of Obama from sacrifices to Moloch.


20 posted on 03/09/2009 11:18:05 AM PDT by Peelod (Preserving, protecting and defending are beyond his ability.)
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To: sissyjane

Not necessarily... A valid marrigage can happen in ANY church.


21 posted on 03/09/2009 11:18:54 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Peelod

but if he sacrafices himself to Moloch, that would be a good thing.


22 posted on 03/09/2009 11:19:19 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Peelod

That’s fitting. Especially after today.


23 posted on 03/09/2009 11:19:24 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: pissant

He’s too old. Moloch demands children.


24 posted on 03/09/2009 11:20:40 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: BlueAngel

Laura is pro-abortion; she will enter the Church the same day as Gloria Steinem.


25 posted on 03/09/2009 11:21:51 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
As a Catholic, if he wants to divorce this wife he may end up beheading her and grasping the Protestant sect.(remember Henry VIII)
26 posted on 03/09/2009 11:22:04 AM PDT by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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To: Philo-Junius

And W will not join a Church that Laura couldn’t endorse as well.

So, not expecting W to swim the Tiber any time soon.


27 posted on 03/09/2009 11:23:11 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: pissant
Can we get Cardinal Mahoney to convert to Episcopalian?

You mean "make it official?"

28 posted on 03/09/2009 11:23:13 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: pissant

If Newt is twice divorced how can he get married Catholic?


29 posted on 03/09/2009 11:23:43 AM PDT by Poison Pill (Help, I've voted Republican and I can't get up!)
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To: BlueAngel
It would really surprise me. GW is far more into Bible doctrine than Newt.
30 posted on 03/09/2009 11:25:48 AM PDT by fish hawk (Atheism is a non-prophet organization)
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To: Poison Pill

Did he get married in the Church? Somehow I doubt it.


31 posted on 03/09/2009 11:25:54 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Poison Pill

Because his first marriage was of questionable validity, it may be annulled.

The fact that his second and third marriages occurred while his first marriages were putatively valid takes them out of consideration right off the bat—they’re both nullities in the eyes of the Church.


32 posted on 03/09/2009 11:26:29 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: pissant

I understand “an old man in a white dress” wants a raise.


33 posted on 03/09/2009 11:26:43 AM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: fish hawk

You do understand that Catholics are perfectly satisfied with their interpretation of Bible doctrine—having published the Books in question for a few millennia and all?


34 posted on 03/09/2009 11:28:06 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I suggest this book:

With Open Arms - Catholics, Divorce & Remarriage
Hosie, S.M., John

The truth is, the terminology trips up those who do not understand the concepts.

A Catholic with a valid “civil” marriage can later receive another valid “civil” marriage, and have that new marriage respected by the Church.

In the eyes of Church, even if BOTH Weddings were held in a Catholic Church, or otherwise witnessed by a Catholic Priest, It is possible to have the second Marriage WITHIN the Church, even if both of the original partners are still alive.

-— It requires only the sincere belief by the person seeking marriage in the Church that the original marriage was not “sacramental” -— this does not even require the official “annulment” of the original Catholic marriage.

I am sure this post will create a firestorm, among Catholics and non-Catholics, alike.

But it is the truth.

It is not “remarriage” because the “conscience” loophole or the formal annulment process would both require that the first “Marriage” was invalid in the eyes of the Catholic involved, and therefore invalid in the eyes of the Church.

35 posted on 03/09/2009 11:28:14 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: WellyP

Huh?


36 posted on 03/09/2009 11:28:17 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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.....another “thankfully Converted Catholic!” How wonderful. :0)


37 posted on 03/09/2009 11:29:12 AM PDT by RooRoobird20 (1/20/2013: "Change We Can Believe In")
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To: GBA

I don’t think the conversion will help him politically: evangelical Protestants, who form an important part of the Republican base, will now not support him. While most Protestants would not have an issue with voting for a lifelong Catholic (though some still have trouble with it), a convert is a different matter. My guess is that it will put him in the same unelectable category as the Morman Romney.


38 posted on 03/09/2009 11:29:28 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: pissant
Is Noot joining the Kennedy-Pelosi wing?

Rush had some unflatterng cvomments about Noot today - the RINOs are being exposed and, hopefully, expunged.

39 posted on 03/09/2009 11:30:49 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Philo-Junius
Like Nancy Pelosi, Joe Bidden, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry,
Chris Dodd, Rudy Giuliani, James Carville, Paul Begala,
Terry McAulife, to name a few off the top of my head
40 posted on 03/09/2009 11:31:05 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: newfreep

Hopefully he is joining the Benedict XVI/Knights of Columbus wing


41 posted on 03/09/2009 11:32:35 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Bainbridge

CINOs


42 posted on 03/09/2009 11:33:22 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Cousin Eddie
There have been rumors about Blair, but I haven’t seen any official word.

Vatican hails Blair Church switch

Reports: Blair Cobverts to Catholicism

Tony Blair joins Catholic faith

43 posted on 03/09/2009 11:33:25 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Bainbridge

None of the apostates you have listed converted, they were all cultural Catholics who decided that Vatican II meant “do what you like” and were never fully brought to account by their bishops.

But no responsible catechist would accept them as candidates for the Sacraments with their current understanding of the issues.


44 posted on 03/09/2009 11:35:03 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Philo-Junius
his first marriage was of questionable validity

In what way?

45 posted on 03/09/2009 11:35:36 AM PDT by Poison Pill (Help, I've voted Republican and I can't get up!)
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To: pissant

Sounds like he is becoming Catholic because his wife is.

Not to criticize Newt’s motives but this but this is often a different type of conversion than someone who become Catholic because they believe it is the True Faith based on careful analysis of Theology and the Scriptures.

But I wish him the best.


46 posted on 03/09/2009 11:35:40 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: fish hawk
Pish-tush. On the block old Harry was batting only .333.

Remember the mnemonic?

"Divorced (Catherine of Aragon),
beheaded (Anne Boleyn),
died (Jane Seymour);
divorced (Anne of Cleves),
beheaded (Catherine Howard),
survived (Katharine Parr)."

47 posted on 03/09/2009 11:38:25 AM PDT by Tenniel2 ("Providence moves slowly, but the devil always hurries" -- John Randolph of Roanoke)
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To: Philo-Junius

Right, sure.
That solves everything.


48 posted on 03/09/2009 11:40:01 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: Poison Pill
"If Newt is twice divorced how can he get married Catholic?"

The Church doesn't recognize marriages that did not take place in the church, so they essentially never happened.

49 posted on 03/09/2009 11:40:24 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Poison Pill

Upon inspection, all of his marriages seem to be invalid:

Newt was not baptised until 1970 or 1971; his first marriage in 1962 was therefore not a Christian marriage at all.


50 posted on 03/09/2009 11:41:50 AM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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