Millions of Islamic calendars PREDICTING THE attacks on America years in advance.
President George W. Bush (2001):
“You’re either on our side or the terrorists’ side”.
THE WAY IT IS:
Posted on 03/09/2009 8:08:09 AM PDT by pissant
It is a popular topic of discussion in political circles these days, and as the weeks pass more and more people are asking, “Is Barack Obama really a natural born citizen of the United States? Is he eligible to serve as President, or isn’t he?” If he is, then so be it. We’ll just have to grit our teeth until this long dark nightmare comes to an end… one way or another. But what if he is not eligible? What then? Well, in that case we have a problem… a very large problem, the solution to which could tear asunder the fabric of American society.
Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution states that, “No person except a natural born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”
That’s pretty straightforward, yet, when confronted with the possibility that the man who sits in the Oval Office may be a usurper, a great many otherwise patriotic Americans can be heard to say, “What difference does it make? The election’s over; the people have spoken. Get over it!”
Well, it’s not quite as simple as all that and the sooner we can all be satisfied that Obama is or is not a natural born citizen, the better. To postpone that finding for a year or two and then find, conclusively, that Obama is not eligible to serve as president would be disastrous. Every new law and every executive order he had signed, every political appointment, every judicial appointment, every order he had given to the military, and every act and every decision of all of his appointees would immediately become null and void. How could we ever undo all of that?
The American people would quickly learn that it is not much easier to undo two or three years of history than it is to undo a decade or a century. It is imperative that we get to the bottom of this mystery as quickly as possible so that all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, can finally accept that, like it or not, Barack Obama is our president. In order to do that, and to force Obama to end his stubborn refusal to produce his birth certificate, his passports, his visas, and his college records, we must continue to recruit more and more Americans to insist that he do so.
To do that, it is not necessary to prove that he was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii… as his paternal grandmother, a Kenyan half-brother, and a Kenyan half-sister insist… or who his natural father may have been. The proof of Obama’s failure to meet the “natural born citizen” standard is much simpler than that. To convert a non-believer… one who insists that the Constitutional requirements must be met, but who believes that questions about Obama’s citizenship status are nothing more than sour grapes… it is only necessary to establish the facts surrounding Obama’s travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in the summer of 1981.
Although Obama fails to mention that trip in either of his memoirs… not in Dreams from My Father and not in The Audacity of Hope… he made a potentially fatal error when he mentioned the Pakistan trip during an April 6, 2008 speech in San Francisco… the same speech in which he referred to rural Pennsylvanians as “bitter” people who “cling to guns or religion…” In that speech, Obama explained in an offhand manner the value of that trip, vis-à-vis his knowledge of foreign affairs, saying, “I knew what Sunni and Shia was (sic) before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.”
When questioned about that trip, Obama’s campaign press secretary, Bill Burton, confirmed to the New York Times, and others, that Obama had visited Pakistan in 1981 on his return from Indonesia, traveling there with a Pakistani friend from Occidental College, Wahid Hamid. According to Burton, Obama stayed in Karachi with the family of another Pakistani friend, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo. Obama has never mentioned the Pakistan trip again.
So it is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. What is not established, and what is critically important, is what passport he used during that trip. There are only three possibilities: Obama could have traveled under a U.S. passport… a passport first issued when he and his mother moved from Hawaii to Indonesia in 1967; he could have traveled under an Indonesian passport, issued following his adoption by his Indonesian stepfather; and it is conceivable that, if he was, in fact, born in Kenya in 1961, he could still have been a British subject, traveling with a British passport. So which is it?
Unfortunately for Obama, in the present circumstance, Pakistan was under martial law in 1981 and certain undesirables… Christians, Jews, and Americans… were prohibited from entering the country. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list, making a U.S. passport no more valuable than an empty chewing gum wrapper at the Karachi Port of Entry.
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later? And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration? The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers.
It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20? A: Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel Under? A: There are only three possibilities. 1. He traveled with a U.S. passport, 2) He traveled with a British passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesian passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981. Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he was traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he was traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008. Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
Is he a “natural born” citizen, or isn’t he? It seems pretty clear from the available evidence that he is not. If that proves to be the case he should minimize the damage to the country and follow the Nixon example; he should simply resign from office so that we can begin to clean up the mess he leaves behind.
We need to find and archive all the retire and active military web sites and forums. we need to create a list so these stories can be posted on thouse forums. More soldiers need to know the truth about the Kenyan marxist fraud.
Works for me.
Obama is too tired to do the job. Please remove him before he does more damage to us.
Thank you,
The People
I guess all we have to do is sit back and wait on Obama to be asked the question, “What passport did you use to travel to Pakistan in 1981”
I’m sure the MSM will jump right on that.
Is that World Net Daily reporter still allowed in the WH press corps. He’s ask if given the chance. Les something or rather is his name.
Les Kinsolving? I remember Drudge talking about about him when he had his show on FNC.
That's a pretty strong statement.
usurper ping
Interesting. Good post!
this should of been investigated when he first announced he was runnuning for pres...
In before the Obama lovers.
It was. By us rabble citizenry. We are going to force this issue back down his throat.
We can find this information out from the Secretary of State- one H.Clinton. Why don’t we ask her through FOIA request. There is public justification for the request. It was her opp research in her presidential run that brought up this trip to Pakistan. SHE KNOWS all about Obama. Is anyone surprised that she then became Secretary of State? In that position, within the department, she has no doubt quietly amassed all the remainder proof she needs, much in the same fashion that the Clintons gathered the FBI files of which they still have a copy. The first trip she/Bill makes is to good ole Chicom land to “reset” the Hsu connection with their owners.
Thus by proxy, Obama is a puppet of the Clintons. He could do something to them, but he can’t without being exposed. Why don’t we expose him and the Clintons at the same time. Failure to “protect and defend the Constitution” by her knowledge of Obama’s citizenship eliminates her TOO!!
I don’t know- seems pretty simple with enough legal support and money. And we can stop this/these Marxist bastards.
I’ll agree.
As much as I dislike that guy, he is too much of an idiot to be the real deal.
I would want Obama to immediately be arrested for fraud and a bill sent to his family and the DNC for the trillions of tax dollars that he illegally spent. All registered Democrats that voted for him will also be sent a bill for their share of the money and Repbulicans that voted against him will get a lifetime tax holiday.
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
Is this correct? I’ve seen it stated both ways or that there wasn’t a ban on Pakistan travel.
If only my friend. If only.
Doesn’t the question assume he was traveling with a US passport?
Doesn’t the question assume he was traveling with a US passport?
That is the implication as I read it. But I’ve seen it stated that there wasn’t a US ban on travel to Pakistan in 1981. I don’t know which is correct and I can’t find a source for any ban on the world wide web.
Thanks for the linked article. It raises an issue that should be easy to resolve:
“Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s ‘no travel’ list in 1981.”
A few weeks ago, someone posted a link here to a 1980’s article published in a national publication about a lady who traveled to Pakistan in 1981 with a U.S. Passport on vacation.
My part-time snooping did not find anything authoritative on the question one way or the other, but perhaps some other FReepers could help dispose of this question.
Odooma is a puppet mouthpiece. But he is supported by a cast of marxists operating from behind the curtain.
Proving he is illegal, and then removing him will be a monumental operation of military proportions. People will die to keep him in his illegal presidency. Don’t doubt the amount of resolve socialists and marxists will fight with to keep power now that they have power within their grasp..
What evidence is there that U.S. citizens were banned from traveling to Pakistan in 1981? I’ve never seen any links or references for this.
Millions of Islamic calendars PREDICTING THE attacks on America years in advance.
President George W. Bush (2001):
“You’re either on our side or the terrorists’ side”.
THE WAY IT IS:
Uh, your link begins “before traveling to Pakistan, U.S. citizens should...”. How is that a ban on travel?
You might be referring to a five page NYT article about travel to Lahore, Pakistan, that was published in 1981. I don’t think there was a ban on travel to Pakistan.
Oh good grief.
Thanks, you made it look easy!
Thanks. I believe you are correct on both points.
Isn’t!
Then post it everywhere including Craigslist.
Google will pick up on the word obama and as people read it and will pull the google ranking up.
By using just Obama in the title all the rats will open it up and read the post. This will boost the Google rating.
Will a subpoena do?
That is complete B.S.
Oh Wow, a Travel Advisory!
I have traveled to a least a dozen countries where there was a U.S. State Department Travel Advisory.
Does the fact that I traveled to such countries mean that I am no longer a natural born citizen?
Remember...
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in
Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United
Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack
Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was
governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same
act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship
nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan
citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
HOWEVER, he probably retained his passport(s) until later, renewable
every 5 years...
BUT it SMACKS of loyalty and allegiance conflicts between the US and other
nations from his birth. But that doesn't mean anything now, does it?!
this should of been investigated when he first announced he was runnuning for pres...””
Correct—it ws the job of the DNC and Howard Dean and other Democrap leaders.
They either did NOT do any such vetting or OR:
They knew from the first jump that he was NOT eligible.
WHEN NObama is proven to have been born in Kenya, I want a thorough investigation by the REPUBLICANS into the actions of Dean and the others. If they knew-= I want them charged with treason.
Oh Wow, a Travel Advisory!
I have traveled to a least a dozen countries where there was a U.S. State Department Travel Advisory.
Does the fact that I traveled to such countries mean that I am no longer a natural born citizen?”
First: There is a difference between “travel Advisory” and “Ban on Travel”.
Second— The issue is whether NObama was Natural born- not whether YOU are natural born.
Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think of him.
Well then why is it the Birthers continue to promulgate the lie that the State Department had issued a Travel Ban to Pakistan in 1981?
That travel advisory merely states that a visa is required to travel to Pakistan. That the visa is good for 30 days, and it probably couldn't be renewed. And that tourists could get the visa at the Pakistani airport upon arrival. Nothing on any travel ban.
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